Roy Morgan poll for June

Mostly normal fluctuations in the latest Roy Morgan poll – they are usually every two weeks, this one is a week later.

  • National Party to 44% (up 3% since May 13-26, 2013)
  • Maori Party 2% (unchanged)
  • ACT NZ 0.5% (unchanged)
  • United Future 0% (down 0.5%)
  • Labour is 33% (down 2%)
  • Greens are 11.5% (down 0.5%)
  • New Zealand First 6% (up 1.5%)
  • Mana Party 1% (up 0.5%)
  • Conservative Party of NZ 2% (down 0.5%)
  • Others 0% (down 1.5%)
  • No party named 6% (up 1%)

This latest New Zealand Roy Morgan Poll on voting intention was conducted by telephone – both landline and mobile telephone, with a NZ wide cross-section of 909 electors from June 3-16, 2013.

That’s an unusually long polling period, spanning all of United Future’s troubles, so it’s not surprising to see them back down to 0.5%.

National have bounced back from an unusually low result last time.

Labour are back down in a familiar range of fluctuation.

Greens may be getting a bit worried, they may be trending down a but, and certainly aren’t making any traction.

NZ First are the highest they have been since October last year, probably due to Winston Peters getting more media coverage than usual.

It will take another poll or two to show if United Future and NZ First sustain their changes or if they are temporary changes due to short term events.

What has Andrea Vance said about it?

What has Andrea Vance said about the David Henry report, the Peter Dunne resignation and comments, and the media aftermath? The attacks and insinuations and assumptions made about her role have been widespread and often nasty and demeaning.

Misogynistic has been mentioned quite a bit – “having or showing a hatred and distrust of women”.

Katie Bradford-Crozier reignited discussion yesterday with Egalitarian NZ’s big step backwards in response to a column by Deborah Hill Cone – Better to blend in than be tempting target.

In one followup discussion on Kiwiblog Angry Journalists there is a lot of coments tending towards misogynistic, but a reasonable comment asked:

Has Andrea Vance herself commented on this? Has she come out and categorically stated that she did not lead Dunne on in any way? I don’t know, hence the question.

Vance has been out of the country while all this has been going on but via Twitter she has given an idea of what she thinks.

@LI_politico 9 Jun
@ONENewsNZ “female journalist” wonder where people are getting the idea to undermine @avancenz as journo. #eatingtheirown

@avancenz 9 Jun
@LI_politico and neither @ONENewsNZ or @CorinDann bothered to call Fairfax or me after defaming me pretty much all day.

@mlle_elle @edmuzik @danylmc yes thank you Elle. After all, who cld take Winston Peters and Michelle Boag seriously as a moral compass?

@Westerly 9 Jun
@avancenz @LI_politico that’s fairly crappy they didn’t contact and seek a response to about Boag’s comments.

@avancenz 9 Jun
@Westerly @LI_politico or any of it. Completely aside from the misogyny.

And…

@TheNBR 10 Jun
Good to see Fairfax strongly backing @avancenz

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/8776490/Attempts-to-get-reporters-emails-will-be-fought

@avancenz 10 Jun
@TheNBR thanks NBR. Shame then about the email your reporter just sent me. Would you be asking those questions if I was male?

@sineadboucher @ndbrennan As classy as their grubby questions emailed to me today. @TheNBR

@TheNBR 10 Jun
Dunne-leak reporter Andrea Vance clams up
http://tinyurl.com/l4c4adx

@avancenz 10 Jun
FFx have asked for a correction. Awaiting response.

Just got a nice apology from @NBR and they are amending.

And…

@RoryMacKinnon 10 Jun
Sending my regards to fellow reporter @avancenz putting up with all kinds of sneering misogynist horseshit today.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10889163

@avancenz 10 Jun
thank you Rory.

And…

@kirsty_johnston 10 Jun
So can we assume Winston hasn’t got the emails? Or what? Slippery bugger @CampbellLiveNZ

@avancenz 10 Jun
@kirsty_johnston @CampbellLiveNZ he no more has them than he had the teapot tapes.

So it’s fairly clear what Vance thinks. And she has also made it clear she stands by source confidentiality:

@avancenz 10 Jun
@johnpagani thanks for your questions John. As you know, I cannot discuss sources.

@johnpagani thank you, but same answer John. I won’t be discussing anything about sources.

All indications are that Vance has not discussed sources.

In the meantime Dunne has adamantly denied there was anything personal, he was still denying it yesterday and today.

And although the rumour mill had been “vile”, and innuendo “sleazy” regarding his relationship with Fairfax journalist Andrea Vance, he said it was a past issue.

“I think it’s disgusting frankly” he said.

Dunne has also said it has been very hard on him, but especially on his wife and family.

It won’t have been easy for Vance either, nor her friends and family. It’s been reported she’s due to be married later this year.

Lianne Dalziel – MP or mayoral candidate?

Now that Lianne Dalziel has officially announced she will stand for the Christichurch maoyralty she is in an interesting position. She is still an MP until she resigns and ceases to be that role.

3 news report in Labour expects a tough by-election

The MP announced yesterday she would stand against Bob Parker in October, and if she wins she will quit Parliament.

I’m not sure how Dalziel can remain a Labour electorate MP and campaign as a different peson for mayoralty at the same time.

On Campbell Live – Strong contest for Christchurch mayoralty - Dalziel said that as an MP should took party political stances and in opposition had to challenge and hold the Government to account.

She said that as mayor she would be politically neutral and believed she could work well with the Government and Minister of Christchurch, Gerry Brownlee.

She is going to have to work hard to convince people she can transform herself like that – especially if she remains an MP while she campaigns for the mayoralty.

And there’s also the question of someone voted to be an eelctorate MP and paid to be a member of the House of Representatives should be able to use her time and parliamentary travel and expense privileges while campaiging for a different political position.

If she remains an MP while she stands for mayor she has a distinct and unfair advantage over other potential candidates.

Silver lining in United Future clouds

United Future has had major membership problems. First it had a dwindling membership, and when it admitted the numbers had dropped below 500 the Electoral Commission de-registered the party.

There is no legal allowance for re-registration of a party so United Future has to register as a new party using old fashioned paper records. That sounds absurd but it’s the rules as stipulated by legislation and the Electoral Commission.

So this is a major administrative task for the party. It also puts party funding in jeopardy. A ruling from Parliament’s Speaker on this is yet to be made.

So this all looks very messy, and it is. It’s also embarrassing for the party.

But there has already been a significant silver lining.

All small parties struggle to maintain interest and members. Government support parties tend to fade in importance in the eyes of voters.

But all the publicity since the shock de-registration has precipitated a surge in new membership.And as Peter Dunne has said:

“Events surrounding my resignation, funnily enough, also helped.”

Reports indicate the numbers have close to trebled, which means somewhere around 1500 members. This is huge compared to the past few years.

The party has a lot to do to manage the new membership. If they want to retain interest they need to include the members in party affairs, keep them informed, listen to them and encourage active participation.

The dark clouds that have engulfed United Future have also provided an injection of new interest in the party. This was badly needed. It has to be used wisely.

There is now an opportunity to revitalise the party and make it relevant in next year’s election. There’s a lot to do but at least the party has had the boot up the bum it needed.

United Future versus Electoral Commission

United Future are not getting any joy from the Electoral Commission in their attempts to register their party. They are stuck with having to comply with archaic bureaucratic requirements where signed membership forms have to be supplied. Many people have registered as members online but electronic proof is deemed inadequate.

The law doesn’t cover re-registration. If a party is de-registered, as United Future has been, then it’s only path back to registration is as a new party.

Parties that are registered only have to submit an annual statutory declaration that they have 500 members. No proof is required and nothing is checked. When United Future said they could not provide a declaration this year the party was de-registered.

New parties have to provide proof of membership, and this is checked by the commission.

The law stipulates that proof of membership has to be as determined by the Commission.

What evidence is needed of 500 eligible members?

For each member a personally signed and dated declaration (usually the membership form)

United Future asked the Commission to reconsider their requirement and to allow electronic proof. Yesterday the Commission confirmed that they would not change their rules.

Electoral Commission Decision on United Future Request

The Electoral Commission today considered a submission by United Future New Zealand in relation to its application for registration of a political party.

The party requested that the Commission amend its Policy and Procedure for the Registration of Political Parties to accept evidence of membership based on an electronic spreadsheet of membership data rather than membership evidence signed by each member which the policy currently requires.

The Commission’s decision has now been reached, and the party notified. The full decision is attached, and no further comment will be made.

united_future_decision_19_06_13.pdf (PDF 781.58 KB)

Details:

EC membership 1

It seems a bit pedantic and out of date in a modern online world but they make the rules.

EC membership 2The party has requested that members post signed forms. Getting members to print and sign forms then scan them and email them for submission could get complicated, and the quality of scans could be an issue.

Once the Commission has this information they will verify that the memberships are valid anyway. It’s hard to know how they can do this better with bits of paper, but that’s how they insist it is done.

 

 

Most trusted politicians

Readers Digest have released their list of New Zealand’s Most Trusted People 2013

It’s hard to know how people come up with the rankings. It’s dominated by sportspeople, and many are hardly known outside their sporting achievements (and some in advertising). Peter Snell is at 7 on the list and has not lived in New Zealand for decades and is hardly heard of apart from his atheletics fame from the 1960s.

As usual politicians are ranked low. Here is the political rankings (with a couple of others).

44. Garth McVicar, Sensible Sentencing Trust spokesperson
51. Maggie Barry, TV personality and MP
53. Tim Shadbolt, Mayor of Invercargill
56. Bob Parker, Mayor of Christchurch
57. Helen Clark, former Prime Minister
66. Tony Kokshoorn, Mayor of Grey District
78. Lockwood Smith, High Commissioner of NZ to UK
80. John Key, Prime Minister
83. Russel Norman, Green Party co-leader
87. David Shearer, Labour Party leader
88. Len Brown, Mayor of Auckland
89. Metiria Turei, Green Party co-leader
90. Pita Sharples, Minister of Maori Affairs
92. Matt McCarten, trade unionist, politician
93. Tariana Turia, Maori Party co-leader
95. Gerry Brownlee, Minister for Canterbury Earthquake Recovery
96. Michael Laws, former Mayor of Wanganui
97. Winston Peters, New Zealand First leader
98. Kim Dotcom, internet entrepreneur
99. John Banks, politician, former Mayor of Auckland
100. Hone Harawira, Mana Party leader

And politicians are ranked low on the New Zealand’s Most Trusted Professions 2013 list too:

41. Call centre staff
42. Airport baggage handlers
43. Journalists
44. Real estate agents
45. Insurance salespeople
46. Politicians
47. Sex workers
48. Car salespeople
49. Door-to-door salespeople
50. Telemarketers

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Dunne continues to deny leaking

On his return to Parliament Peter Dunne continues to deny being the Kitteridge report leaker. As reported on Newstalk ZB:

The United Future leader has given his first interview since his resignation press conference 11 days ago.

He maintains he never leaked the Kitteridge report but isn’t prepared to give any theories as to who the culprit may be.

“No I don’t, and I don’t really want to comment on this issue at all until the matter of the privileges hearing is resolved. It would be improper for me to comment while the Speaker’s still considering a privileges case.”

This is the first time he has publicly commented since his media conference on Friday 7 June where he announced his resignation as minister. In his statement then he said:

“I am extremely concerned and upset by the Henry Report’s findings regarding the unauthorised release of the Kitteridge Report in so far as they relate to me.

“While I did not leak the report, and challenge Fairfax to confirm that, some of my actions after I received an advance copy of the report were extremely unwise and lacked the judgement reasonably expected of a Minister in such circumstances.

“I accept full responsibility for that.”

Fairfax have refused to confirm that, but they have revealed they had several sources for GCSB related leaks.

It is widely thought that Dunne was the leaker but there is no evidence to prove that.

What is known from Dunne:

  • Dunne denied he leaked the Kitteridge report:
    - in a select committee hearing
    - to John Key
    - to David Henry during his investigation
    - in his media release on 7 June
    - yesterday to Felix Marwick.
  • Dunne revealed in released emails to Andrea Vance that he considered leaking the report.
  • Dunne revealed in released emails that he discussed the report with Vance.
  • Dunne refused to reveal some emails from him to Vance and all emails from Vance:
    “The sole reason why I did not disclose the full content of my emails was because of my strong belief that citizens, be they constituents, members of the public or journalists, ought to be able to communicate with their elected representatives in confidence if they wish, and we tamper with that right at our collective peril.”

What is known from David Henry’s report:

  • Henry has no proof that Dunne leaked:”82. I remain of the view that I need to have full access to all eighty-six emails. Without Mr Dunne’s permission I cannot take the matter further.”
  • Dunne had access to the report and had contact with Vance via parliamentary emails.
  • Dunne denied leaking:
    “85. Mr Dunne has advised me that he did not provide the reporter with access to the Kitteridge report.”
  • Regarding the two other people Henry investigated he is “satisfied that their contacts were entirely commensurate with their official duties”.
  • One of the other two people Henry investigated had the report at home on the weekend prior to the leak but Henry accepts that person’s word that “it remained in the officer’s possession at all times”.
  • Henry did not investigate anyone or anything who might have had private contact with Vance:
    “59, For completeness I record that I had no access, nor did I seek access, to private email providers or private telephones.”
  • Henry made no comment regarding the possibility of private meetings.

The neglect of Henry to consider contact with Vance other than through official parliamentary email and phone is remarkable, especially considering the main basis of his report implicating Peter Dunne is by a process of eliminating others who had had contact with Vance.

Henry emphasises the fact that Dunne had much more contact with Vance than the other two people he investigated – but it shouldn’t be unusual that an MP, party leader and Minister would have much more contact with journalists than public servants.

Journalist opinion

From when Winston Peters accused Dunne up to his media conference on Friday 7 June journalists said they thought that Dunne was a most unlikely suspect. I didn’t see any predictions of what was about to happen.

The day afterwards there was widespread acceptance that Dunne was the culprit. Colin Espiner blogged:

But as someone who worked as a political editor in the press gallery for eight years, I’m 99 per cent convinced Dunne was responsible, based on his behaviour since, his refusal to co-operate with the inquiry, and my knowledge of how these things work.

And how these things work is that almost everyone does it. The only difference is that Dunne got caught because he didn’t cover his tracks well enough.

From Dunne being rated a 1% chance of being a leaker to 99% convinced that he was the leaker based on a further Dunne denial, no new evidence and the fact that “almost everyone does it” is, ah, interesting. And Espiner was wrong, Dunne wasn’t caught. He has been accused and implicated but there’s no evidence and there are unexplored alternatives.

My opinion

I still have an open mind on this. I can’t be certain one way or another – and I believe the same applies to nearly everyone else.

I put a lot of weight on Dunne’s reputation (acknowledged by journalists) of not being a leaker, his reputation of honesty, and his continued denials – but I note he has not denied directly to me, he has not responded to me on this at all.

I think Henry’s investigation was seriously deficient and certainly doesn’t come close to proof. It is simply based on a process of elimination that fails to consider the likelihood that most leakers would not use parliamentary emails to leak.

Even things that could imply Dunne’s possible guilt are puzzling – his refusal to release emails is assumed by some to damn him, but why would he release emails showing he considered leaking? Surely if he was covering his tracks he would have withheld that information too, he would have known this information would increase suspicions.

It seems very likely to me that a journalist like Vance would be seeking information from as many people as possible. I hope that’s what journalists do.

It’s feasible that Vance would have tried to get more than one person to leak the Kitteridge report to her.

Dunne admits he considered leaking it, but it could have been a step too far for him and out of character.

It’s quite feasible another person leaked the report to Vance, and she then sought Dunne’s opinion on aspects of the report – and this is what Dunne has kept from Henry.

I won’t rule out anything without evidence or an admission.

But at this stage I think logic and evidence (and lack of evidence) is in Dunne’s favour. Accusations of Dunne’s guilt are on weak grounds.

Shame for Aussie men – what about here?

Blunt Instrument

John Birmingham tells stories. Most of them true.

This is blunt. Very blunt.

It might seem over the top but may maybe that’s necessary to get through to some people (and some still won’t get it).

A shameful week to be a man

That’s in Aus.

Mostly I dig being a man. It’s awesome. And being a middle class white man? Holy crap. I don’t need to buy a lottery ticket because I won all the things just by turning up. But sometimes … I dunno. Sometimes I am ashamed to have a dick, and I’m not talking about that time I woke up in a crowded train carriage with a gigantic travel stiffy.

This last week, it’s been a shameful dick week.

I mean, what is it with you losers? Do you genuinely hate women? Or are you just too stupid to live and breed? I mean that literally. The gene pool would be better without you. Yes, Sattler, I’m looking at you.

And your mate, Akerman. And that restaurant owner with the sub-moronic sense of humour.

And the misogynist fools the Chief of the Army is talking to here. And that slobbering waste of human skin married to Nigella Lawson. And seemingly 95 per cent of the communters on Youtube. And the army of dickless wonders stinking up Xbox Live.

And the celebrated rapists of rugby league. And that soccer coach with the delightful Dark Ages twist on marital relations. And and and …

Well, you get my point.

Or you don’t, because you are a misogynist dickless wonder who thinks the last week is all just a feminazi PC plot, or even worse just a bit of fun, or just what everyone is saying anyway. That’d be you, Piers, that last one. At least Sattler had the nads and the lack of sense to front Gillard personally and destroy himself in an explosion of shameful stupidity. Your smarmy, weasel words on the ABC’s Insiders, basically gargling and spitting up Sattler’s word vomit all over again don’t even get the grudging Jackass points that his suicidal performance demanded.

Seriously. What is up with you people?

All of you.

Do you not have wives and daughters? Do you not love them and want the best for them? OK. Scratch that. In Saatchi’s case we already know the answer.

Maybe the way out of this strangely primitive cultural moment in which we find ourselves isn’t to talk to, or even consider the actions of the so-called men in question. Maybe it’s the rest of us have some ‘splaining to do.

Because the truth is the world is not solely populated by misogynists and homophobes and embittered, deeply stupid and potentially violent males. It’s also full of calmer, gentler, more intelligent and wiser men who know better than these fools and who are perfectly capable of standing them down. Men who want better for women because so many of the people they care most about in the world are women.

Where are these blokes when a man puts his hands around a woman’s neck and starts to squeeze? Where are they when some idiot demeans and disrespects a prime minister, not because of what she’s done, but because of what she is? Where are you guys? Because if you just stepped up and said no at the very moment that it’s happening, not later, but right then and there, some of this wretched dickishness might finally die out.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/blogs/blunt-instrument/a-shameful-week-to-be-a-man-20130617-2oemq.html

Obviously not “all of you” or us are to blame. And I don’t think its as bad in New Zealand – but it can be awful here too.

But if more of us speak up and challenge male crap more often then some of the crappy males amongst us might get the message that it’s not normal male behaviour, and it’s not good male behaviour.

And it’s a filthy look for all of us men when most of us don’t deserve it – as long as we’re prepared to do something to stop it.

More on Dunne’s return

More detail on Peter Dunne’s return to Parliament from NZ Herald Dunne breaks silence by taking to Twitter

Predictably nothing new on the  Kitteridge report.

He still maintains he did not leak the Kitteridge report but wouldn’t expand to Newstalk ZB who could have been behind the leak.

“No I don’t, and I don’t really want to comment on this issue at all until the matter of the privileges hearing is resolved.

“It would be improper for me to comment while the Speaker’s still considering a privileges case,” he told Newstalk ZB.

But on the Jami-Lee Ross Employment Relations (Continuity of Labour) Amendment Bill Dunne explains:

He said he would not be backing National MP Jami-Lee Ross’s bill allowing employers to hire contract workers when their employees go on strike.Mr Dunne said it was a step too far and he thought the right to strike was an important part of industrial law.

“I think this is really the Ports of Auckland Bill, frankly. And while I understand the motivation behind it, I think it’s too big of a sledgehammer to deal with this specific issue.

“I think that there will be people who will misuse it, and I think that’s detrimental.”

Details on the bill:

“The Employment Relations (Continuity of Labour) Amendment Bill will repeal Section 97 of the Employment Relations Act 2000, which prevents the use of volunteers, contractors or other casual employees during strikes and lockouts,” Mr Ross said.

Until 2000, employers held the right to hire temporary labour during strikes. National, Act, New Zealand First, and United Future voted against the law changes that the Labour/Green and Alliance Parties supported in 2000.

And separately the Electoral Commision have advised they are considering a request from United Future to allow electronic proof of membership:

The Electoral Commission is currently considering an application for registration of a political party submitted by United Future New Zealand.  The party has requested that the Commission amend its Policy and Procedure for the Registration of Political Parties to accept evidence of membership based on an electronic spreadsheet of membership data rather than membership evidence signed by each member which the policy currently requires.

The Commission will be considering this request at a special meeting on Wednesday 19 June.  No decision has been made at this time.  Information concerning any decision will be made available publicly on the Commission’s website in due course.

In the meantime the party has asked members to return signed acknowledgements of membership by snail mail.

And…

@felixmarwick 

Unsurprisingly Ministerial Services says it doesn’t hold the emails exchanged between Peter Dunne and Andrea Vance #oiaresponse #gcsb

The Bowen Triangle

Rob Hosking (NBR) remembers defining Bowen Triangle “in a column a few years back”.

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