God awful arguments


I’ve seen a lot of god-awful arguments (and godless-awful arguments) on blogs. And I’ve never seen anyone converted or  unconverted.

I’ve just seen this on Facebook:

I know some people will nod and smile in approval and understanding, but I think that that sums up a lot of religious argument – a quaint narrow example being used as some sort of proof of everything.

I remember one thing from bible study at school, we had an hour a week when I was in Form 1. The local vicar told a story that I have never heard of since, but our modern day Google God show’s it’s still out there in different variations:

A man died and St. Peter asked him if he would like to go to heaven or hell. The man asked if he could see both before deciding. St. Peter took him to hell first. There the man saw a big hall containing a long table, laden with many kinds of food. He also saw rows of people with pale, sad faces. They looked pale and there was no laughter. And he observed one more thing: Their hands were tied to four-foot forks and knives and they were trying to get the food from the center of the table to put in their mouths. But they couldn’t.

Then, St. Peter took him to see heaven. There he saw a big hall with a long table, and lots of food. He noticed rows of people on both sides of the table with their hands tied to four-foot forks and knives also. But here people were laughing and were well fed and healthy-looking. They were feeding one another across the table.

Four foot knives and forks seemed a really dumb idea – especially in heaven if such a place existed.

I guess it’s just very hard to explain in words what having faith is like – but they need to try some semi-believable stories.

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3 Comments

  1. Steve W

     /  August 28, 2012

    Oops. The link to the FB-related image appears to be broken.

  2. Steve W

     /  August 28, 2012

    I should have added that “faith” is – rightly – trust in something that has earned that trust. Religious faith is trust in something that hasn’t – can’t possibly have – ever done anything to earn trust. I equate religious faith the the faith one gives to a con man who wants your money now and promises some reward in the future. Essentially, faith-based religions (Christianity, Islam, Neo-liberal economics) are elaborate scams with an element of peer pressure thrown in, similar to that employed to support the propagation of chain letters. I make the distinction between faith-based religions and non-faith religions. a non-faith religion would be hinayana Buddhism…which has no gods or need to believe anything. It’s essentially a 2,500 year old self-help programme rich in insights into the human condition.

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