Going by the majority of comments at The Standard many party members want Labour leadership to go to a party decision next month. Word from the current leader is they won’t get that chance, David Shearer has virtually ruled out any chance of a challenge going any further than caucus.
On Saturday ‘Eddie’ launched a speculative play at The Standard – Shearer to put it to the vote…
Word around the traps is that David Shearer is going to use his state of the nation speech next weekend to announce that he will put his leadership to full membership vote in February.
Yesterday IrishBill quashed hope of that in Drive-by posting…
Unfortunately the source on Shearer’s plan to put his leadership to the party didn’t pan out so well. He’s confirmed to Vernon Small that he does not intend to let members vote (I’m not surprised).
This referred to a tweet from political journalist Vernon Small (Dominion), and there was another from Felix Marwick (Newstalk ZB):
Stand easy Labour. Shearer says he will put leadership to caucus vote not straight to full electoral college.
contrary to some speculation in the blogosphere David Shearer won’t be putting his leadership on the line for a partywide vote
Marwick expanded on this on Newstalk ZB:
The chances of the wider Labour party membership getting to vote on the party’s leadership look to be slim to none.
Left-aligned website The Standard has suggested current leader David Shearer might put his job on the line when it comes up for caucus consideration next month.
But Mr Shearer’s all but ruling that out indicating no-one else in the caucus is likely to put their name forward.
“I’m not expecting any problems at all.”
Mr Shearer says he’ll follow what is in the party’s constitution and won’t step outside the rules that are in place.
Of course any party leader would play down a chance of a challenge to their leadership.
But over past weeks at The Standard a Labour Party delegate has been saying frequently that there definitely won’t be any challenge. ‘Te Reo Putake’ (aka ‘Voice of Reason’) repeated this yesterday. In response to a party member saying…
Sigh. Is there a reason that Labour insists on doing everything the hard way? If caucus decides to give the members a say in February, it’s crucial that we get a full bodied Primary Process up and down the country.
Colonial Viper is blog famous for being the party member identified and gagged by Clare Curran, but he is back commenting this year after his few weeks apparently enforced break.
Te Reo Putake
You’re dreaming, CV. Leaving aside that the whole thing was a fantasy anyway, who is going to pay for a “full bodied Primary Process up and down the country”. You? And given that Shearer is the only candidate, exactly who was he going to debate? An empty chair?
I hate to say I told you so, but the new democratic process is working according to the rules set by conference. And its working to Shearer’s advantage, which is clearly an unintended consequence for Camp Cunliffe.
Te Reo Putake
23 January 2013 at 7:39 pm
Er, no, they didn’t Elizabeth. The affiliates voted for a system that might get them a say. Might. If a particular set of circumstances came about. Which doesn’t appear to be happening this electoral cycle because Shearer has the numbers in caucus. That’s the democratic system affiliates voted for, and it’s working as designed.
In other words, the affiliates and party members might get a say – if Caucus lets them. And they won’t.
Te Reo Putake has repeated similar frequently, and for that has been accused of being a head office mouthpiece (there’s been a lot of infighting amongst party members on The Standard). He has repeatedly made it clear that:
- Shearer has the numbers (60%+) in caucus to prevent leadership going to a party decision
- There is no one who will challenge for leadership.
It’s curious how one party delegate seems to know with certainty what the results of a future supposedly secret caucus ballot is going to be.
Of course it could be all bullshit and bluster. A common political tactic is to keep repeating something over and over and over so that eventually people believe it will be true – ex Labour president Mike Williams mentioned that tactic on Radio NZ (Nine to Noon) on Tuesday.
But it could also be an indication of how caucus ‘democracy’ works. Promises of rewards for compliance and threats of repercussions (bench rankings, assigned caucus responsibilities, poor party list placings) are all talked about.
Some at The Standard still hold hopes that wider party democracy as determined at last year’s conference will prevail. And a number of them say their views are shared by many more in the wider party.
Mike Williams also referred to people at The Standard as:
“the wacko nutter who used to stand up at the Waikikamukau local meeting”
There’s a few nutters on blogs for sure, but to dismiss all with that put down shows extreme ignorance or it’s a deliberate insult. IrishBill posted:
Now I know we’ve had a few wacky posters here over the years such as Robinsod and that short lived conspiracy theorist, Batman, but the last time I checked most of us were slightly left of center social democrats and Labour party members.
If David Shearer and Te Reo Putake are correct and the ‘secret’ caucus ballot is already whipped into place and sewn up then the majority of Standard Labour Party members will be disappointed, further disillusioned, angry, angrier, despondent – and very vocal.
And this won’t be confined to The Standard, or the blogosphere, or social media. It will be out in the electorates, in the LECs (some Standard commenters are in LECs), and in the wider voting public.
The problem is not just what Shearer and his caucus supporters are doing – more importantly, it is how they are doing it.
They are seem as domineering, dismissive, out of touch, selfishly holding power by any means possible.
Shearer and Te Reo Putake may win the February battle. But the festering and discontent will remain.
If Shearer can’t win the support of the left of the political blogosphere then more and more voters might start to believe what the bloggers keep repeating and repeating – that they have no confidence in a Shearer led Labour winning enough support in the 2014 election.