Anti-Christian conspiracy

 

Some Christians seem to think they are being targeted and persecuted. As blogged on Blaming it on the marriage bill there are comments around social media that suggest any gay news, especially any gay complaints, are evidence of the slippery slope to moral decay and suppression of Christianity that some said the Marriage Bill would trigger.

There seems to be an anti-Christian conspiracy growing, as this blog post illustrates:

Family First is not the first NZ charity to be targeted by the state for the views it holds

McCoskrie rightly points out that: “this is evidence that groups that think differently to the prevailing politically correct view will be targeted in an attempt to shut them up”, and that your country “is in trouble when a family group speaking up, publishing research, and holding conferences on traditional family values is deemed to be of no public benefit, and is in the public interest to be punished.”

Now just in case you think that this is an isolated incident, you need to think again.

I know for a fact that another NZ charity was interrogated about its views on certain issues pertaining to abortion and homosexuality by the Charities Commission several months before the gay marriage bill was even drawn from the ballot.

Make no mistake about it, NZ has been captured by certain ideological interests which are more than willing to use the mechanisms of the state against anyone who dares to publicly dissent or express contrary views.

And if you want to blame Helen Clark’s Labour-led government for this you need to think again. The current charities commission was the brainchild of United Future’s Peter Dunne, and that both of these incidents took place during the second term of the current National-led government.

And…

If this targeting of Family First is allowed to proceed, then such acts of state persecution of those deemed to be ideological dissidents will only get worse in this country with each passing year.

And it won’t matter which political flavor of government happens to hold power, because ultimately this is about the false idea that the state or popular opinion, and not truth, should determine right from wrong, and how the state wields its authority.

Welcome to the new order NZ.

This seems to be playing the “poor us” Christian card a bit much.

The Charities Commission operates under Acts of Parliament. The laws are applied regardless of religion. Any organisation operating primarily as a political lobby group won’t qualify as a charity. Greenpeace were unregistered. That will have as much to do with homosexuality as the Family First deregistration.

A comment just posted by cossackstomper   at Kiwiblog:

Well this is what happens when you let the Poof out of the bottle. The flow of sewage is everlasting next they will say its illegal to be straight or have straight weddings in a church. There are number of very viscous gay extremists who will stop at nothing to try and prove they are normal .When the whole world know they are anything but normal

That’s more extreme than most but that general message is becoming common.

Another, by the aptly named ‘krazykiwi’:

I think we’ll find that interpretation of charitable status will be open & flexible in support of progressive/liberal causes, and rigid in blocking conservative causes.

God help them.

The Conspiracy theory flowchart…

…”THEY” don’t want you to see…

If you’re new to the exciting world of conspiracy theories and just can’t decide which paranoid delusion best suits you, then why not use this handy flowchart to find your ideal conspiracy theory. Then you too can go and stick it to THE MAN.

The Conspiracy Theory Flowchart “THEY” Don’t Want You To See

 

Gun control, conspiracies and god

At Kiwiblog a post on Obama’s gun crackdown meandered into discussions on conspiracies, beginning with…

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January 17th, 2013 at 7:17 pm

Looned.

He warned that many Patriots and Christians arrested and secured into these prisoner boxcars under martial law will never even make it to the death camps..that many will be tortured and sacrificed once restrained in these prisoner boxcars.


http://www.project.nsearch.com/profiles/blogs/fema-ordered-102-000-boxcars-with-shackles

Amongst the following discussion SPC made a couple of pertinent comments:

No one doubts that there are interests that would like to express themselves through influence on and through the US government. But there is no singular “they”, more like rival “they’s”.

And yes the idea that “they” can have a President removed, and get away with it, is disturbing. Whether “they” have, has not been answered.

The highlights a problem with conspiracy theorists, who seemed to get fixated on a conspiracy and see everything (and often nothing) that ‘proves’ they are right…

…the problem with identifying the macro (conspiracy theory) is that then one is constantly seeing current events as micro signs signs of its advance to some end game gambit. It can get like the religious person seeing signs in world events of the coming of the end of the world.

There’s no doubt that crap happens, and some crap happens that we don’t get to know about, and some crap happens and we never find out for sure who was responsible.

But there is not just one master crapper, there are many crap shooters with different agendas, often competing.

We live in a very complex and convoluted world. Some people try to simplify things by understanding everything crappy as being caused by one conspiracy god.

Are most conspiracy theorists religious? Do they have an innate drive to find a single ‘they’ or god responsible for a myriad of intermingled machinations?

Update: mikenmild puts it another way…

Belief in all-pervading conspiracies is one coping mechanism in a complicated world; religion is another. Sometimes these mechanisms combine to produce significant, almost pathological, levels of cognitive dissonance.

Who’s taking over New Zealand?

I’m a bit puzzled.

Fears are often expressed on blogs about conspiracies of a group to take control of New Zealand, and force us citizens to live under their laws, customs, beliefs. and sexual practices.

When Maori take over New Zealand, and capitalists take over New Zealand, and homosexuals take over New Zealand, and Muslims take over New Zealand, and liberal secularists and atheists take over New Zealand, who will rule?

I understand it’s possible we could get a sudden rise of liberal gay Maori capitalist politicians but I don’t see how they can be atheist Muslims.

Anti-Labour Conspiracies

There are many things conspiring against Labour, there must be for them to be continually performing poorly in polls and for getting so much negative media coverage. Labour are the only party that can rescue the country from financial ruin, and they are the only party that can eliminate poverty and get everyone into employment.

Labour  supporters have suggested a range of conspiracies that are preventing their recovery.

Media

Most of the MSM are owned by right wing capitalists, so they are naturally going to be biased against Labour. They keep ignoring good Labour news and policies, and they keep highlighting gaffs,  cock-ups and holes in their policies and arguments.

National and Act supporters complain about journalists being mostly left wing and being biased against them, but they are getting such an easy ride from the media at the moment they are cot complaining. How convenient for them.

Polling companies

There are a number of ways the polling companies are stacking the numbers against Labour. The ring the wrong people. They ring the wrong sort of phones. They load their findings against Labour. Sure, an occasional poll offers a glimmer of hope to Labour, but that’s just deliberate teasing.

And polling companies are linked to media companies. The conspire together to get good stories and make more money.

PR Companies

PR companies make money by conspiring against political parties like Labour that don’t have enough money to pay for powerful PR companies. PR companies control right wing parties. Once PR companies have eliminated all opposition they just need to change their description to Propaganda Recycling so they won’t even have to change their descriptive initials.

Companies and capitalists

Any organisation with a link to a company is capitalist so is naturally going to conspire against Labour.

In a free market you’d think different companies, for example media companies or polling companies or PR companies, would compete against each other and do different things. But no, there’s one thing that capitalists like more then competition, and that’s defeating all competition, especially left wing competition.

Once they have defeated the left they will compete amonst themselves and try to defeat each other. When there is only one huge company remaining that company will conspire to oppose any other competition so it can rule the world – of course it will control all politicians except for politicians from the left (if there are any left).

World Rule

All right wingers and capitalists belong to a conspiracy to rule the world, so this naturally is anti-Labour (except for when they sometimes let Labour be the government – reasons unknown, but there’s bound to be a conspiracy behind it). Capitalists already rule the world through their control of money and property and media and PR and polling companies.

If they already rule the world why do they need to defeat anyone? Maybe it’s just a habit.

The Public

The public are controlled by marketing. They are hypnotised into watching TV and using the internet, and they can’t help seeing advertising that makes them by too much stuff they don’t need, and it makes them vote for right wing companies that will advertise and hypnotise them more. It’s a vicious circle.

The voters are blind to reality. So

The Public – alternative theory

The public are thick. Too thick see that the capitalists are conspiring against them and Labour. They  don’t see how good Labour’s policies are and how capable and personable all the Labour politicians are. They don’t realise that the only way to save the country and to save themselves is to vote for Labour.

All of the above theories are actually suggested by Labour supporters as reasons why Labour is struggling to be recognised as the rightful occupier of government benches and saviour of the country. They seem to really think these things.

There is one conspiracy that Labour has not yet become aware of, and they are blocking it out.

Conspiracy of Ignorance

The Labour Party seem to think they are doing everything right and everyone else is getting it wrong.

“But I remain confident that Labour is doing exactly the right things”

“Labour is doing exactly what needs to be done”

“Their CGT policies are precisely what is required”

“As an example the CGT release was some of the best opposition politics I have ever seen.”

“Labour and the left should, and will I’m sure stand firm”

“I know that this has been a tactic since 2008 but I think I am seeing real signs that it is working.”

“I think that Goff is doing a pretty good job overall when I look at previous Labour leaders”

“Goff is tough, has the knowledge, and can argue a point with both insight and logic. “

“Labour just keeps doing what it does and we let the actual poll tell us how well we did.”

These are quotes from just one blog post yesterday.

The Labour Party and supporters continue to ignore reality, they ignore what people tell them, they don’t want to know. They react aggressively against criticism. They try and shut down dissenting voices.

They blame everyone and everything else for their lack of support.

At least the Emperor was embarrassed when the little boy blurted out the obvious truth.
Labour keeps accusing the little boy (who is quite grown up now) that he’s the one who’s ignorant.

The only real conspiracy is self inflicted – the Labour Party conspiracy of Ignorance.

I’m not anti Labour, I’m an ex Labour voter. I’m anti self denial and anti self destruction.

We need a viable, strong second major party. If someone in Labour doesn’t wake up soon that may be history.

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