Toby Manhire (Listener) tweeted:
Mike Williams on RNZ: blogs offer outlet for “the wacko nutter who used to stand up at the Waikikamukau local meeting”
Even more remarkable, Hooton: “Sorry for interrupting.”
Those comments were also noted at The Standard (Williams may have had The Standard in mind) and there was an interesting response:
Ha ha, fancy describing his fellow commentator Matthew Hooton as a whacko nutter. Kind of pulls himself into the realm as well. Idiot.
Who cares about what these well known commentators think of what goes on here. I would rather read the daily machinations here than listen to Hooton, Williams, and all the others. They have too many vested and conflicted interests to be taken credibly or seriously. That is where honest comment, by way of anonymity, comes into its own. They do all seem to be very upset though. I wonder why. Perhaps they should stop reading it.
I wonder if Williams has ever posted here? Betcha he has.
Dumb is as dumb does.
I’m not sure that will change Mike’s mind much. I don’t have any proof that ‘vto’ is from Waikikamukau but dumb is as dumb does.
That is dripping with probably unintended irony.
They have too many vested and conflicted interests to be taken credibly or seriously.
That could be in About at The Standard (if they were honest and realistic).
That is where honest comment, by way of anonymity, comes into its own.
There’s certainly some anonymous, good and apparently honest comment at The Standard. But because of all the anonymity, use of multiple pseudonyms, frequent over the top attacks, and accusations without proof by people with obviously vested interests it’s very difficult to know which posts and comments can be taken seriously.
Mike is wrong to smear all blog commenters as “wacki nutters from Waikikamukau” (although there are some like that) – authors and commenters have quite a variety of positions within Labour, but because the vested interests are kept secret it makes easy to dismiss all as wackos.
But Labour ignores all the concerns expressed on blogs at it’s peril, and the party faces many perils at the moment.
It’s blanket dismissal of and disconnect from party faithful and non-party voters is a major problem, apparently still being ignored.
And it should be remembered that even wacko nutters vote. Labour obviously wants more people to vote for them, but they only want support from people who think they way they want them too. That is a diminishing pool, and they are unlikely to find them by fishing in the non-voter pond, bounty from there is more likely to be a mirage.
There’s also some comment on this at Kiwiblog from here.
UPDATE: Another comment (from ‘bad12) at The Standard:
Yes that from ‘Mr i am off to Australia to dig up the dirt on Slippery’, for a tame radio station like RadioNZ what’s-his face,(i tend to think of Him as That Fat Wanker), really layed it on thick with His little anti-Standard rant,
As usual the ‘weak host’ of the particular RadioNZ show sat in what can only be described as approving silence as (That Fat Wanker) defamed many commenters here on the Standard by claiming that He didn’t think that those who comment here while claiming to be Labour activists were actually active in the Party at all,
The up-side to that is that (a) the Standard is obviously having ‘some’ effect in the rarified atmosphere of national politics, and (b), the recent whipping of (The Other Fat Wanker) who appears on that particular RadioNZ received here at the Standard hit all the right spots,
Usually those 2 make absurd statements to the sound of i agree with (That Fat Wanker), which were the first words uttered with gushing approval by the ex Prez of Labour, but, noted with ;laughter was (The Other Fat Wankers) absence of agreement as (That Fat Wanker) attacked the Standard…
Why won’t the Labour leadership listen to people like this?
