In contrast to the often silent censorship at Whale Oil – see Addressing Slater ist streng verboten – message control at The Standard is far more open and amusing (in a sad sort of way). But the intent is similar – to shut out opinions or people that challenge their blinkered views.
Pretty much anything I say at The Standard will be attacked just because some there either don’t like me or simply don’t want me involved in their wee domain.
There was a typical example of the mob mentality recently, beginning with an implied “ban him or I’m leaving” comment – standard “them or us”. This is one of a number of ways they try to pressure lprent into erasing comment they may disagree with (he doesn’t need encouraging).
I’m not sure I can stomach PG’s and Hooton’s attempts at micro-managing debate.
If this is the future of the standard then I’m not sure I can continue. Pete George in particular sucks up so much life by inspecting the finest detail while being ignorant of the message itself that it is too exhausting to have to read.
As the thread this started proves most of the ‘sucks up so much life” happens without me needing to be involved, but I’ll get blamed for disrupting the blog. Cute but crazy.
I have faith that pg will be banned or otherwise fuck off in the foreseeable future
I guess my point is that the socially responsible side of politics (the left) is divided enough at the moment and has enough internal arguments about the way forward that these trolls, PG, Hooton, BM, fistiani, Chris 73, etc, are in no way contributing to the benefit of the cause. Our cause.
I know Sun Tzu says know your enemy but this shit is just not worth it.
If you’re not deemed to be part of “socially responsible side of politics (the left)” you’re enemy.
I don’t think they add anything either, and they comment in bad faith.
Of course Murray always adds value to the threads and comments in good faith.
@Weepus Beard +100…”too exhausting”…..i cant be bothered nor do i have the time
Concerted effort by all to leave his self gratifying posts alone.
He has “look at me! Look at me, i AM important” complex
She has a bit of an obsession with this line, she keeps repeating it.
I’m sick of wading through all these tr***’s
Using the Standard less as it seems to full of their nonsense.
Maybe we need to go back to responding just with Rolling eyes. That might work?
I am all for that.
The rolling eyes campaign was enormously successful – at making them look even pettier. Next thing they will want to paint rolling eyes on our doors and make us wear rolling eyes patches (that’s Godwin’s law in action).
And lprent joins in with his message his requirement for behaviour modification – only of enemies of course.
It is a rope thing. You can’t assume that people can’t learn. Most of the time they eventually do.
So people start on the same general basis after each ban apart from ramping up their next ban length if they prove that they haven’t learnt. How they behave is up to them.
The rope is there to hang them if required. But you hope that they have actually engaged in a some thought to figure out how to avoid that same stupidities again.
PG does seem to to adapt, and has after each ban, but he keeps looking for a angle for leverage in the rules rather than simply dealing with the debate.
That’s as funny as usual and presumably the irony is inadvertent.
The troops at The Standard keep looking for angles for leverage – the often flaunt lprent’s behavioural requirements (often led by him) to leverage out anyone they decide should be excluded with little or no attempt at debate.
And funnily the thread that follows is about Russell Brown criticising The Standard on National Radio along with Matthew Hooton.
russel brown just did a major hatchet-job on the standard..on nat-rad..
hoots also said the standard is ‘never funny’
and hoots said everyone here is ‘crazy’
brown and hoots have a chortle about how brown is ‘on the enemies list’ of the standard..
[lprent: There isn’t one. There are a few people who I keep my eye on because of past bad experiences with what they do to comment sections.
However I suspect that he ran into some commenters being critical about stance he had. I vaguely remember that it was about some position he took on a film or media matter.
But curiously it now means that Russell Brown has just added a myth of an “enemies list”. Jez – what a dork. ]
There’s a number of people who are automatically attacked at The Standard no matter what they contribute.
I’m sure there is no official ‘enemies list’ but the the troops can certainly sniff out an enemy very quickly, and once an enemy always an enemy.
And they wonder why most voters can’t be bothered with politics and many don’t vote for them.
Incidentally I’m on the enemies list at Public Address too, and also at Whale Oil.
Political blogging is still dominated by last century class warfare – not surprising, as some of the prominent regulars at The Standard seem to be bitter old school political activists, with lprent leading the way.
The more of ‘us’ they excommunicate they less of ‘them’ there will be in a diminishing circle of jerks.
UPDATE: this is really funny:
Maybe lprent does have an enemies list operating.