Support for buying assets defies Labour claims

In a press release after the Supreme Court decisiion on asset sales:

The Supreme Court ruling today changes nothing. Yesterday 80% of New Zealanders were against asset sales and today 80% of New Zealanders are against asset sales, say Labour Leader David Shearer and SOEs spokesperson Clayton Cosgrove.

“National’s plan to flog off our assets is a complete train-wreck. That hasn’t changed. It’s time for the Government to listen to Kiwis.

There was no indication where the 80% figure comes from.

Online polls are unscientific but can give indications of how people think. Stuff have been running a poll on buying the assets:

Stuff asset sale poll

That’s only 36% opposed, or 43% opposed or think it would be a bad investment.

And 57% who would buy shares if they had enough money.

Green response on poverty politics

Stuff have reported on yesterdays post on Green Party politics of poverty.

Greens say funding ploy is ‘Obama-style’

The Greens have been accused of using child poverty to mislead people into donating to them.

But a spokesman for New Zealand’s third-largest party said they were simply adopting fundraising techniques used by the likes of United States President Barack Obama.

A spokesman for the Greens said there was nothing suspect in the request for donations.

All donations received would go towards the party’s campaign to end child poverty.

“Ending child poverty requires political action. Our campaign is about getting rid of the political causes of poverty,” he said.

“Our fundraising appeals are consistent with recent developments in email fundraising. Many people now prefer to fund specific campaigns rather than parties.”

Mr Obama’s campaign team has employed similar tactics in the US presidential campaign, including asking for donations to fund a website dedicated to rebutting political attacks on the him.

The donations do not necessarily go directly to that cause but rather into the wider campaign fund.

Obviously the Green Party can adopt United States political techniques if they wish. It could be seen as smart and slick politics.

But I’m still uneasy about creating a major political campaign around depicting New Zealand as having a major poverty problem, as the Green email repeated:

Child poverty in New Zealand has 270,000 young faces.

That’s the official figure of those growing up in poverty. It’s a quarter of our nation’s children.

Where does that ‘official figure’ come from? Is it anything more than a statistical measure?

Everyone knows that what has been labeled as ‘poverty’ in New Zealand is far different to poverty in places like India and Africa. And it’s far different to historical poverty in New Zealand, for example during the 1930s great depression, and prior to that before social welfare existed.

“There’s no doubt that many people and families in New Zealand really struggle on meagre incomes or benefits. But depicting it as widespread poverty – “a quarter of our nation’s children” – makes it easy to dismiss as political posturing and overselling of a problem.

The email

The email sent out by Metiria Turei makes it clear and donations will go towards their political campaign, so theirs nothing deceitful about it if you read what the Greens are saying.

But most fundraising for poverty (or at least a proportion of it) goes directly to helping people in poverty – usually overseas in countries where there is a much morer serious degree of poverty.

The Green response

All donations received would go towards the party’s campaign to end child poverty.

Using the Green measure of poverty – a statistical measure – it will be impossible to ‘to end child poverty’. And statistics aside it is impossible to end all hardship and financial hardship.

Ending poverty or promoting socialism?

I wonder how much the real Green aim is equalising incomes. Socialism in practice elsewhere in the world has proven to be a failure at eliminating poverty – it has been more successful at equalising hardship. Except for the ruling elite.

Acknowledged problem

We do have a significant problem with too many people living in real hardship. This has many negative effects in health, education and crime.

The causes of the problems are many and varied. Giving everyone more government handouts won’t solve these problems.

Targeted solutions

The best way to deal with issues like income disparity and financial hardship is to indentify and target the real issues.

And these issues (and the best solutions) vary greatly in different parts of the country. We need to look more for local solutions to local problems – rural Northland is very different to urban South Auckland, and both are different to South Dunedin.

Party politic campaigns to increase handouts won’t address these effectively and affordably.

The kneecapping of United Future?

Much has been said about the influence of polls and media leading up to an election. Did a single shaky poll and one negative article kneecap United Future in the 2011 election?

The 2011 election was always going to be a tough task for United Future. Peter Dunne had been one of the busiest MPs, with ministerial, party leadership, sole MP and electorate responsibilities. And as usual for coalition partners United Future operated under the large shadow of the National Party. It was going to take a lot of effort and good luck to improve on 2008′s result.

There are a significant number of floating voters who make late decisions, having a big influence on the final make-up of parliament. In 2002 United Future was the beneficiary of fortuitous circumstances – and a worm. But it wasn’t the worm that turned the election for UF, it was the publicity the resulting media attention gave them.

The 2011 election swung strongly New Zealand First’s way in the last few weeks, influenced in part by the cup of tea debacle (credit is also due Winston Peters and his efforts throught the year).

And United Future support shrunk some more. There are a number of reasons for this, but one poll and article may have been the two nails that fixed the party’s fate.

The poll

A “Fairfax Media-Research International mini poll” was released two weeks before the election – this is the time when the undecideds start to make up their minds. The results:

  • Peter Dunne 37.4%
  • Charles Chauvel 35.6%
  • Katrina Shanks 19%
  • Gareth Hughes 1.4%

That comes to 93.4%, they didn’t say anything about the remaining 6.6%. But there were other very significant facts:

  • Undecided 34.6%
  • Margin of error 7%
  • Number of people polled 163
  • conducted on Wednesday night

That’s a small sample for a poll, conducted on one evening of one day. There’s questions about some of the calculations based on the numbers given. And the huge number of undecideds render it impossible to determine any accuracy. The poll really doesn’t give an accurate forecast of what might happen.

The article

An article accompanied the release of the poll  results on stuff and in newspapers. Comments included:

  • Headline: Dunne’s hold on Ohariu shaky – poll
  • Peter Dunne is facing the fight of his political life with a new poll showing he is holding on to the Ohariu electorate by the skin of his teeth.
  • …shows the UnitedFuture leader…could be ousted by Labour’s Charles Chauvel.
  • It put Mr Dunne on 37.4 per cent, less than two points ahead of Labour’s Charles Chauvel on 35.6.
  • Prime Minister leader John Key has urged National voters in Ohariu to back Dunne; he even attended UnitedFuture’s annual conference in August to extol the virtues the Government’s stable support partner.
  • However, Mrs Shanks has been campaigning hard, hitting the malls and building her support.
  • The poll shows voters like her and many are refusing to accept the deal National struck with UnitedFuture in a bid to guarantee it coalition partner after the election.
  • Of those who are going to give their party vote to National, 40 per cent said they would vote for Mrs Shanks.
    ‘What that is saying is that her strength in the electorate is undermining Peter Dunne’s likelihood of retaining the seat,” Mr Epplett said.
  • Mr Dunne had a noteworthy resurgence during the 2002 election campaign…Mr Dunne has struggled to find a winning formula and his popularity has fallen every election; from a giddy 12,500-vote majority in 2002, to 7700 in 2005 and plummeting to 1000 after the 2008 election.
  • it appears voters are becoming irritated with deals done over electorates.
  • At a heated candidates’ debate in Wellington suburb Ngaio this week, Mr Dunne was accused of being a ”fence sitter” who changes his allegiances when voters change the government.
  • The fact that Mr Dunne remains popular in the electorate can be partly attributed to the lifeline National has thrown him.
  • Even the ever popular Mr Key seems unable to convince Ohariu voters to back Mr Dunne.

Balanced against all the negative comments about Dunne and United Future and being reliant on National was one positive:

  • UnitedFuture represents a solid partner which hasn’t faced the dramas that have befallen ACT and the Maori Party over the past term and led to MPs quitting their parties.

And there were two comments about the uncertainty:

  • A massive 34.6 per cent of voters were undecided.
  • Research International spokesman Paul Epplett said that means the race for Ohariu is too close to call.
    ”There are a lot of people who are going to stand in the ballot box and make up their mind at that point in time.”

The media

Those are headline examples, there were other items talking up the electorate “dirty deals” (notably Patrick Gower on TV3) and dismissal of United Future’s chances – a Firstline item on the small parties discussed all the other small parties and flippantly tossed United Future off the end of their report.

The uncertainty seed sown

Obviously there was a degree of uncertainty in Ohariu. Some of this uncertainty was logical. But most of it was based on one small poll that was very uncertain.

Looking at the wider picture it looked more than likely Dunne would prevail. Act succeeded against poll predictions election after election in Epsom. The polls backed Dunne, albeit narrowishly.

The result

It’s obviously impossible to know what caused voters to make up their minds. But it is widely thought that swinging voters are influenced by the chances of success of small parties. If they thing the chance of a party getting into parliament is slim they will look elsewhere so they won’t ‘waste” their vote.

The only result we can be certain of is the election numbers:

  • Peter Dunne 37.4%
  • Charles Chauvel 34.84%
  • Katrina Shanks 18.56%
  • Gareth Hughes 5.8%
  • Other 2.32%

Those results aren’t that far away from the Fairfax poll, a slight widening of the Dunne/Chauvel gap, and a significant jump for Hughes (maybe Greens had another engagement on the evening of the poll).

And Dunne actually increased his majority, to 1392.

What else is known? The 2008 result:

  • Peter Dunne 32.61%
  • Charles Chauvel 29.95%
  • Katrina Shanks 26.53%
  • Gareth Hughes 7.06%

That suggests a shift in tactical voting but no significant change.

After the election Stuff reported in Ohariu: Dunne back for 10th term

Labour’s own polling put Mr Chauvel at 31 per cent, with Mr Dunne on 29 per cent.

Chauvel made a numbr of questionable claims during the campaign – was this actual poll results? It would be good if Chauvel coukld confirm this.

Other polling always indicated Dunne was likely to retain his seat:

OHARIU POLL SUMMARY

 Our three Ignite Polls since March 2010 have shown the following results:

Candidate                                           Range                                   Average

Dunne                                                  31% to 34%                         32.3%

Shanks                                                  19% to 27%                         22.6%

Chauvel                                                21% to 24%                         22%

Hughes                                                 5% to 7%                              6.3%

Don’t Knows                                      12% to 13%                         12%

Lead                                                      4% to 12%                           8%

I understand these results were shown to some media during the campaign, and Dunne publilcy commented on having confidence he would be returned in Ohariu.

The power of polls

There’s been a lot of discussion about the misuse of polls be parties and media.

Jane Clifton wrote on this in the Listener:

The Conservative Party: Creative creationists?

The “polls” that catapulted the Conservatives into prominence barely deserve the name.

The source of the word about the poll? The Conservative Party, which had its eye on Act’s voters – such as they were by then. Then word got around of another poll, showing Craig ahead in the Rodney electorate. Source of the poll? Again, the Conservative Party. Well, good news should be shared, shouldn’t it?

In the rush of the election campaign, the provenance of the polls was never examined by the media.

And it’s well known how easy it is to manipulate online opinion polls and purported serious polls like Horizon and iPredict.

Yet polls are run and reported on by media like they are newsmakers. Like one small poll run by Fairfax in Ohariu, that possibly had a major impact on a party, and on the makeup of the balance of power in parliament.

The conclusion

This is obviously viewed from a United Future perspective but similar applies to all parties.

All parties (and small parties in particular) can stand or fall on the whim of media and polls, and there’s probably not much they can do about it. Media have a lot of electoral power, and there’s little that can be done to effectively contest them or hold them to account.

Is this good for our democracy?

There’s a lot of uncertainty and “ifs” in politics, but should it be a lottery with some people having the power to stack the balls?

Granny Herald – drama queen?

John Key had a chat on radio yesterday, referring to the media as “more aggressive and hostileand the NZ Herald as “tabloid”.

The ODT reported on this in a relatively factual and balanced way.

Media ‘hostile’, but no problems: Key

The Prime Minister says he doesn’t have a problem with the media, despite his comments today that the press had become more hostile towards his Government in its second term.

Here’s the interview audio:  Speaking on Newstalk ZB this morning (play audio from 3m 01 sec),

The NZ Herald headlined and followed up the story differently:

John Key takes aim at media

Key backs off comments on ‘Herald’ in media gripe

Key denies slamming NZ media

John Key Prime Minister John Key yesterday reined back claims after singling out the Herald in an attack…

I don’t think he backed off, he reminded the media what he actually said. And other media:

Stuff: Key bemoans ‘hostile’ media

TVNZ: Key told to harden up after media moan

3News NZ: Key: Media ‘aggressive and hostile’ toward Govt

And it hasn’t escaped the blogs either:

The Standard: Better late than never – joining their Cry Wolf Club?

…so naturally Key is looking for someone to blame.

Many pundits link the mood change in the media to Key’s attack on various outlets over the teapot tape…

Except that Key said it’s a normal mood.

Kiwiblog not surprisingly had a different take on it: A perfect example

And the headline: Key bemoans ‘hostile’ media Really proves the point.

A strong media that reports on and examines the actions of politicians is a vital part of our democracy. They help hold parliament and politicians to account.

But media also have a responsibility to be accurate and fair. Unfortunately modern media has tended too much towards over dramatisation and attention seeking.

And the way they overreact to having a small amount of spotlight shone on them is curious.

Media needs to be accountable to, and the same as for politicians, media excesses need to be shown up for what they are.

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