Conservatives want to keep fighting gay marriage

 

I don’t know if Colin Craig will find enough people with enough enthusiasm who want to continue the gay marriage/marriage equality debate indefinitely, but he says he will carry on the fight against gay marriage.

Fight against gay marriage will go on

The Conservative Party believes the fight against gay marriage will continue after tonight’s reading, even though it looks likely to pass.

The third reading of the Marriage Amendment Bill gets underway in Parliament this evening – with many heading for the public gallery to witness the historic moment.

It would make New Zealand the 13th country in the world to allow gay marriage.

But Conservative Party leader Colin Craig says even if the bill does pass through – it won’t be the end for those campaigning against the idea.

“The way to affect change from here is through a binding referenda.

“The Conservative Party is the party that wants to bring in binding referenda, and if we get enough support at the next election we’ll be doing that.”

Even if his party gets into Parliament next year they would have to get enough support for a binding referendum from other MPs (very unlikely).

By the time a referendum was held, if he gets a favourable result, there will have been two or three years of gay marriages. Would he annul the marriages? Or just stop any more gay marriages? Either would be bizarre.

Craig seems to be using it as an ongoing vote rallying tool, like he has used smacking – both with little realistic chance of changing anything.

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  1. Darryl

     /  17th April 2013

    I do believe that a lot of folk opposing Gay marriage, will show there disapproval by voting for Parties that don’t support it. It is going to be a very interesting time, to say the least.

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  2. If same-sex marriages were overturned, the most sensible thing would be to revert them to civil union status. It’s essentially the same thing in law anyway, apart from the ability to jointly adopt children, so wouldn’t cause much disruption to those that would think of themselves as “married”.

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    • I don’t think it will happen but that sounds like the best way it could be dealt with – although it would be harsh on those who have been married to have a legal status change forced on them.

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  3. Darryl

     /  17th April 2013

    I still believe there should be a referendum with regards to this marriage bill. I personally think the public of NZ, should be given the chance to vote, not have 120 circa MP’s going ahead with what they think is right.

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    • A referendum on this sort of bill may seem justified, but there can be issues with minority rights being denied by a majority – and the simple fact is there is no history of having referenda for this sort of Member’s bill.

      We have an established system of representative democracy with rare use of binding referenda. That’s just how it is.

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      • Darryl

         /  17th April 2013

        They know dam well that if it went to a referendum, they wouldn’t win. Winston Peters will pick up a number of votes on this one.

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        • I think it’s hard to call how a referendum would turn out, especially with the sort of debate that would be likely.

          Anyway, it’s not going to happen, in line with how things have worked in Parliament for yonks.

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  4. Brown

     /  17th April 2013

    The bill will pass and the fight will simply move to the next level. On that basis Craig is probably correct in that the debate will go on because the state will want to insist that we all like this which will require punishment of dissenters. It will be interesting to watch the erosion of the right to disagree with a state endorsed position continue in the name of equality and tolerance.

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