Marriage bill “a giant step”

And a comment that deserves a separate post from ‘scottfack’  who sees the passing of the Marriage Bill as a giant step:

As a homosexual, it’s a giant step. Why? Because now I, and my relationship with my partner, is equal in the eyes of the law. Fully equal.

It’s a giant step because my transgendered student and friend can now change her birth certificate to female without having to annul her marriage certificate.

It’s a giant step for all those people who want the legal power to adopt and have their relationships with their partner’s children recognised legally.

While I wasn’t fussed if it happened last night (as I know New Zealand would have eventually come around), the issue itself was a big deal.


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  1. Brown

     /  18th April 2013

    There is always a line drawn between legality and what’s right and wrong – sometimes they get blurred but at the end of the day being legal may not be a permanent comfort. I’m not saying this bill fits that but the agenda associated with it may do. The use of the word “adopt” is argaubaly something outside this bill but we see the sideshow slip in under the main event and take centre stage. Who would have thought?

    As long as they gays/trans are happy we can move on but I suspect they’re not though so what’s next?

  2. We don’t have an agenda; we just want to be treated equally under the eyes of the law.

    What’s wrong is denying a minority group of people the same legal rights and privileges that the majority have. But the majority have been very good at doing that throughout history, haven’t they? Slavery, concentration camps, Jim Crow laws, the Holocaust, the Killing Fields, and the Balkan Wars are a few examples that have happened in the last 150 years that spring to mind.

    My partner and I fought for the rights of all people applying for a permanent residency visa via the partnership option to be treated equally in New Zealand immigration in the late 90s. We won. Why did we win? Because it was the right thing to do, to give everyone an equal playing field, no matter what their sexual orientation.

    And this is just the final legal hurdle in treating the LGBTI communities as equals to their straight counterparts in the area of relationships.

    Adoption is covered in this law because the adoption law in New Zealand says that only married couples (not civil unionised, not de facto, but married) can adopt a child. By extending marriage to two men, or two women, or two consenting adults whatever their sexual orientation or gender identity, this means any married couple can now adopt.

    You obviously know no gay people, Brown. I’m one of the happiest people in the world, and even moreso now I can legally marry the man I love! I went to bed last night with a big smile on my face, tears in my eyes, because I realised that I truly was legally equal to all my straight friends and family members.

    (By the way, if the LGBTI communities have an “agenda”… no one has given anyone I know belonging to those communities the heads-up on what the agenda is!)

  3. b

     /  18th April 2013

    “You obviously know no gay people, Brown”.

    Is that right? You know nothing about me and who I count as friends. Given you continue to confuse speculatation with staements of fact I’ll keep it that way.

  4. Laurie Andersen

     /  19th April 2013

    This subject has NOTHING to do with equality !!! It has EVERYTHING to do with morality ! So why not have this slogan “No Morals, then, no Equality !”
    Abraham Lincoln: “What is morally wrong, can never be politically correct.”


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