Pegida not so popular in Newcastle

Pegida seems to be battle for popularity in England, with a march in Newcastle being outnumbered by opposition.

Newcastle Pegida marchers vastly outnumbered by counter-protests

Northumbria police said 375 people were on the Pegida rally while 2,000 joined the Newcastle Unites protest in the city centre.

The rally was supposedly organised by Pegida, or “patriotic Europeans against the Islamisation of the west”, which claims that Germany is being overrun by Muslims and has held marches, mostly in Dresden.

Men holding National Front banners could be seen among the Pegida supporters.

Decency versus prejudice and intolerance.

I believe in Islam even less than I believe in Christianity but peaceful religious following should be equal rights.

Islam has had some connection with Britain for centuries,

Muslim scholarship, especially early Islamic philosophy and Islamic science, was well-known through Latin translation among the learned in England by 1386, when Geoffrey Chaucer was writing. In the Prologue to the Canterbury Tales, there is among the pilgrims wending their way to Canterbury, a ‘Doctour of Phisyk’ whose learning included Rhazes (Al-Razi), Avicenna (Ibn Sina,Arabic ابن سينا) and Averroes (Ibn Rushd, Arabic ابن رشد).

And Muslim immigration has been significant since the 1700s.

The first group of Muslims to migrate in significant numbers, in the 18th century, were lascars (sailors) recruited from the Indian subcontinent (largely from the Bengal region) to work for the British East India Company, most of whom settled down and took local wives.

Wouldn’t it be better if less effort went into division and abuse and more effort went into different peoples living and working together peacefully?

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  1. Kittycatkin

     /  1st March 2015

    Nazis in Germany still ? How astonishing-I don’t think.

    The Muslims are taking over Germany…I can’t think why they’d want to, any more than the Jews would when they were accused of the same thing-in each case ignoring the numbers, as these would make those being taken over look very feeble if they could be taken over so easily.

    I had forgotten that the Doctour of Physik and of Surgerye had read all those, although I must admit that the names-Razis, Avicen and Averrois, as they are in my edition, which is in Chaucer’s c.14 English-meant nothing to me. I would guess that Damascien might have been Muslim also-he has to have been from that area,

    But Chaucer tells us that ‘his studie was but litel on the Bibel’, as opposed to his knowledge of the ancient Greeks, Muslims et al-though he has read people like Constantyn, whom I take to be the Emperor Constantine.

    Blast, now I want to read this again.

    Chaucer must be read in the original to be appreciated properly, otherwise we’re not reading his own words and hearing his own voice. Modern ‘translations’ are an abomination; where’s the sense in translating English into English ?

  2. Kittycatkin

     /  1st March 2015

    I thought that the marches/rallies would be in Nuremberg.

    The movement should be called ‘Bigots Opposing Liberal, Lenient Open-minded Clear-thinking Kindred Spirits.’

  3. Kittycatkin

     /  1st March 2015

    I wish that we could edit, I left out all the commas.

  4. The rise of more extremists.. where is Pegida-NZ ?


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