A symptom of Labour’s core problems

Labour have a number of deep seated problems – see What now for Labour and Little?

The Standard is a window into some of Labour’s problems. It is a blog dominated by National negativity with scant lauding of Labour.

They pretend they encourage robust debate on the Labour left but continually demonstrated the opposite.

Two long time regular Labour activists at The Standard are Te Reo Putake (‘the voice of reason’, yeah right) and Colonial Viper/Rawshark (Tat Loo) have highlighted the divisions and infighting and intolerance of dissent within Labour.

Tat is a party maverick and has recently been speaking up about Labour’s obvious problems. One response from TRP ironically sums up some of Labour’s problems.

Do you have anything new to try, CV? Seriously, your relentless negativity has its bleak charms, but unless you’ve got practical solutions, why bother? What specific, measurable, realistic and time bound ideas do you bring to the table?

TRP seems ignorant of the fact that his accusations sum up his own problems. And The Standard’s. And Labour’s.

When the activist core of Labour is this dysfunctional it’s hardly surprising that Labour is struggling.

CV tried to debate but TRP’s follow up comments demonstrate the deep seated intolerance and lack of self awareness:

So you’ve got nothing at all? Just the whinging?

So, nothing then. Good to know.

We’ve established that you haven’t got a clue, CV. Anything else you want to add?

Yep, nothing but negativity. CV has no answers.

Be honest. You can’t report to anyone, because you haven’t got anything to say. You’re stuck in a scratched groove son, time to change the record.

You enjoy a good sulk. Good for you. But boring for the rest of us.

Do you have anything new to try, TRP? Seriously, your relentless negativity offers little but bleak self harm. Unless you’ve got practical solutions, why bother? What specific, measurable, realistic and time bound ideas do you bring to the table?

Do you have anything new to try, Standard? Seriously, your relentless negativity offers little but bleak self harm. Unless you’ve got practical solutions, why bother? What specific, measurable, realistic and time bound ideas do you bring to the table?

Do you have anything new to try, Labour? Seriously, your relentless negativity offers little but bleak self harm. Unless you’ve got practical solutions, why bother? What specific, measurable, realistic and time bound ideas do you bring to the table?

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  1. traveller

     /  25th May 2015

    In the analysis post 2014 election, never did I see anyone in Labour mention the impact of negative gotcha politics obsession when the current government had the economy ticking over quite nicely thank you.
    Labour stalwarts, manic posters on opinion pieces and spin blog writers told, and still tell us their “vote positive” message was unclear and in the next breath they prattle on about the misguided voter. The voters were putty to the mysterious, insidious Crosby/Textor messaging. They told us we were thickos who if only we could see the truth through the spin the scales would fall from our eyes. That’s no way to win hearts and minds.
    The gotcha mentality is central to their messaging, defines their opposition and campaigning and is something they cannot seem to drop. Heaven knows what they could achieve if they spent as much time developing considered policy instead of screeching about ponytails.
    They can harp on about Dirty Politics until the cows come home(Key is in cahoots with Slater etc), but people in the middle and right did not buy it. People think that the blokes who went to the trouble of hacking personal emails, websites and facebook messaging, are the dirty political activists. They think that the men/ women who curated millions of words to paint a one-sided and grossly politically biased message were worse than Ede and Slater et al could ever be. The left simply do NOT get the left’s POV. I’ve never seen any public acknowledgement from the left that Hager/Rawshark and their enablers and supporters are anything but saints, simply that voters were too thick and brainwashed for the message.
    While they wet themselves over a ponytail tug or three, they call it sexually perverted, fetishist, what they’re not getting is the public still see Key as the hugely preferred PM. This is because Key shows a characteristic none of them either have, or are incapable of relaying anyway – that of someone who is ultimately positive. The people see in Key hope for their future, they see a man who loves his wife and kids and a man who dashes tirelessly about the globe and country spreading goodwill as he does so.
    Nearly everyone in this country has come across Key at an opening of a school pool, a country fair, an opening of a commercial business and if they haven’t their mother or neighbour has. They all say the same, the man is incorrigibly positive about NZ and about NZers. The contrast with the career polticians from Labour – your yesterday’s man Goff, your petty and nasty Grant Robertson, your puffed up Fonterra forming Cunliffe and your angry Unionist Andrew Little couldn’t be more marked. They should have stuck with Shearer, given him time to mature and become confident in the job. They could have ground away compassionately and positively, making small gains until 2017 when we’d have tired of Mr Amiable V.1 and gone for their model V.2.

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