“Israel is run by evil people”

Comments at Kiwiblog include some extreme views at times. Like this:

On Israel Reid thinks it’s a Satanic creation using a Satanic symbol on it’s flag, and that Israel is behind all the world’s problems and behind all the world’s terrorism, including Islamic terrorism.

Israel is run by evil people. It was founded by evil people. The evil people deliberately allowed Hitler to do what he did to the European Jews in order to encourage them to populate Israel after the war. The evil people set Israel up because they are going to destroy it. Then they can turn to the people of the world and say: look, your God doesn’t exist, or if He does, He’s obviously not very good at being God, because He just stood aside and let his own people be destroyed. Now here is our lovely peacemaker, who some wicked people call the anti-Christ, but he’s really not that at all, and look at how he brought world peace, after all that conflict, during which, in part, Israel was destroyed.

And the evil people are doing this because they are working for their king, who happens to be Satan.

None of this makes Jews evil. It makes the people who commit evil acts in their name, evil.

This is a clear and obvious distinction no-one but a moron would have trouble understanding.

That expression is enabled by David Farrar’s very liberal approach to allowing free speech. While it’s on his blog I’m fairly sure it in no way represents his views given his Jewish background.

The comment is currently on 1 up tick and 13 down ticks, and there has been substantial comment, mostly criticism, of it in the thread that follows.

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  1. Brown

     /  26th June 2015

    Its interesting reading secular views on religious things they don’t believe in (and the Jews are all about religion being the chosen people of God and all that), don’t have real knowledge of and claim to be rubbish anyway. Most of the tickers would be the same.

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  2. Seriously, the sort of statement that is quoted should be categorised as “Hate Speech” and thus be illegal?

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  26th June 2015

      Nope. I’m not sure that I understand what he was trying to say but analysis even when wrong is not hate speech, nor should it be banned. It can be discussed, clarified and refuted as appropriate. Banning stuff just leaves misunderstandings and delusions to run free.

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    • luci

       /  27th June 2015

      free speech – in a democratic society – means free speech. We all have a right to our beliefs. We should be free to discuss. We are becoming a very controlled populace where we can only say what is currently allowed and “deemed to be true”. Do you really want to live in this current “democracy” where the Don Key only allows you to vote on a flag – but couldn’t care less about selling our assets that we didn’t want to sell.

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    • luci

       /  27th June 2015

      Go to jimstone.is and you will read some interesting stuff. Unhappy times ahead. Real Alternative media coming out of America is being hacked – don’t go through google try duckduckgo – if still not able I will post his ip.

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  3. Part of the reason the Kiwiblog GD thread descends in to true weirdness as evening falls is this type of discussion on religion, conspiracy theories etc. Its all quite humorous really…..

    This quote is definitely not hate speech is just a very odd conspiracy theory….

    DPF could resolve the GD theory jacking that happens by opening a religious rant thread where Reid, Griff, Shawn, etc etc could trade bon mots happily.

    NOTE: I have nothing against Reid, Griff, Shawn etc and find their discussions entertaining

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  4. FarmerPete

     /  26th June 2015

    Make similar ‘level’ comments against Maori, women, homosexuals, or other group and watch the outcry! Clearly hate speech.

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  5. I’ve heard the ‘conspiracy theories’ too.. but the reality is that the land of Palestine, was annexed by the British (Balfour declaration) & now USA (with financial backing from the Rothschild family) & handed it over to the Zionists (who claim ‘biblical’ ownership), who are increasingly taking over the remaining land,once occupied by the Palestinians & ghettoizing them & treating them like second-class citizens.

    There are alternative versions of history, than those on ‘mainstream media’ :/

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    • kittycatkin

       /  26th June 2015

      If the Rothschilds can finance a country of ? million, they must be unbelievably rich.

      They’re very rich, but they’re not THAT rich, Nobody is.

      Israel is the land God gave to the Jews. People are free to believe in God or not believe in Him, but that doesn’t alter the fact that Israel is the Jewish homeland

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      • Arbeit macht frei

         /  26th June 2015

        The Rothschild’s are sooo rich, that they don’t even feature in the Forbes 500.

        Best estimates have them worth well in excess of one trillion USD – making them by far the wealthiest family on earth!

        The richest individual in the world, is Vladimir Putin, whose net worth is also estimated as being in excess of a trillion smackaroos!!

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        • kittycatkin

           /  26th June 2015

          The estimates of their net worth vary so much that they’re meaningless-and there are a lot of them, anyway. But I doubt if they’re keeping Israel going; have you any idea what it costs to run even a small country ?

          I wonder if you know what Arbeit Macht Frei means, either literally or where the quote comes from. The only reason for using such a pseudonym would be to be offensive to anyone who knows the history of this phrase. AntiSemitism’s ugly face is, alas, seen everywhere. Hitler’s long dead, but it appears that his admirers are still with us.

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      • The statists often use ambiguity in their fraud: True Israel and the Zionist state of Israel are two different things – One originated with the patriarchs and the the other with Herzl.

        According to the account in the book of Genesis the land of Israel and Judah was only a relatively small portion of the greater area between the NIle and Euphrates which was the land of the Abrahamic covenant. This same land area is the subject of the”Greater Israel” of the Oded Yinon Plan, essentially at attempt to annex the Muslim inheritance of the original covenant.

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  6. kiwi_guy

     /  26th June 2015

    Letting some nutter have a rant is a great tactic because then you can say “See? This is how unhinged our opponents are!”, and then anyone else who might object is going to be wary about being tarred with the same brush.

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    • Some history of the state of Israel is probably in order. Netanyahu’s Likud party has it’s origins in terrorism, betrayal, and massacre.

      “It is not simply that Ariel Sharon and company are a bunch of hypocrites or political amnesiacs about the past. More importantly, the Irgun, led by Menahem Begin, the Stern Group and Lehi, its successor, went on to form the Herut party, forerunner of the Likud party, and the ultra right-wing Moledet party, which form the main coalition partners of the Sharon’s government. The gang of former generals, ultra-nationalists and religious bigots that run Israel today are the political heirs of terrorists who furthermore had close connections with the fascists.”

      https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2003/06/irae-j21.html

      “The King David Hotel explosion of July 22, 1946 (Palestine), which resulted in the deaths of 92 Britons, Arabs and Jews, and in the wounding of 58, was not just an act of “Jewish extremists,” but a premeditated massacre conducted by the Irgun in agreement with the highest Jewish political authorities in Palestine– the Jewish Agency and its head David-Ben-Gurion.”

      http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/kd.html

      “This charismatic individual, the Rebbe of Satmar, Grand Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum, did not mince any words. Straight to the point he called Zionism “the work of Satan”, “a sacrilege” and “a blasphemy”. He forbade any participation with anything even remotely associated with Zionism and said that Zionism was bound to call the wrath of G-d upon His people. He maintained this stance with unwavering bravery from the onset of Zionism whilst he was still in Hungary up until his death in New York where he lead a congregation numbering in the hundreds of thousands. ”

      http://www.truetorahjews.org/lieberman

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      • kittycatkin

         /  27th June 2015

        The swastika is also Indian. The Germans took it, distorted its looks and meaning and turned an innocent symbol into one that stood for genocide, hatred and hubris. None of these bear any resemblance to the origin of swastikas.

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  7. I thought the Zionists are those who believe that all the land from the Med-sea to the Jordan river is the ‘land of Israel’ & the Palestinians should be either swept into the sea or pushed across the river (or killed). Netanyahu has made it clear that he is a Zionist & he will never accept the ‘two state solution’ even if the UN are now saying they do.
    Its interesting that one of the ‘conspiracy theories’ claims that the Rothschilds (aka Bauers) were ‘AskeNAZI’ jews & that Adolph was the ‘bastard son’ of this same family ? (his mother was a serving maid in the ’employ’ of the Rothschilds & was pregnant, before marriage to the man who is supposedly his adopted father) this is how he supposedly funded the war, that ended.. with the creation of the ‘State of Israel’..
    btw; the Swastika is an apparently an ancient Jewish symbol :/

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    • According to the founding father of Zionism Theodore Herzl, “the area of the Jewish State stretches: “From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.”

      http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

      The Swastika turns up in several different cultures, including the Hopi Indians of America.

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    • kittycatkin

       /  27th June 2015

      The swastika that the Germans used was reversed. If you see it on book covers, like Kipling’s, you’ll see that the ‘arms’ point the other way.

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    • kittycatkin

       /  27th June 2015

      It’s spelt Adolf, not Adolph-he wasn’t French, and Ashkenazi is not pronounced Ashkenahtzee but Ashkenazee. Two words sharing letters is not an indication that they have anything else in common. Electricity and selective have ‘elect’ in common, but nothing else.

      The old myth about Hitler’s grandmother (not mother) having a Jewish baby is just that, a myth, It’s been proved that she was not with that family when her child was conceived.I hadn’t heard the variation that they were Rothschilds. Urban Myth seems to be confused as to which woman had the Jewish baby, but it was neither. The family who were supposedly Hitler’s Jewish relations were not impressed with this story which was easily disproved. Who’d want to have him falsely represented as one of the family ?

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      • Arbeit macht frei

         /  27th June 2015

        It is a little known fact that it was the Rothschild Foundation, who were the main sponsors and funders of Josef Mengele’s twin research.

        In the words of Winston Churchill, “History is written by the victors”

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  28th June 2015

          Most likely it’s little known because it’s crap.

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          • Arbeit macht frei

             /  28th June 2015

            @Alan Wilkinson

            “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt” 🙂

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      • There IS evidence that Adolph’s Mother was a German Jew (maiden name : Shicklegruber) It is also known that she was employed by the Rothschild family.. easy to join the dots
        BUT one thing I saw on a TV doco. Adolph sent a division of tanks to the town of Linz in Austria to ‘perform training manuevres’ they destroyed most of the local church & graveyard. This just happens to be the town, where he was born & the likely repository of his ‘official’ birth records. ‘another conspiracy theory’ ? :/

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  8. Myths, Legends, Rumors & Innuendoes.. BUT the reality is there is rarely smoke without fire. The western world supposedly fear Iran getting Nukes, BUT the biggest ‘secret’ that we’ve all heard (?) is Israel already have them & Netanyahu has said ‘all options are on the table’ to protect them. that’s Totally EVIL Man ! 😦

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  9. btw; it has been widely ‘rumored’ that Adolph spent time, between the wars (1920s) in England visiting another cousin or family member: in the house of ‘Saxe Coburg’ 🙂

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