Trotter on TPPA and “the storm of change that is coming”

Chris Trotter seems to have rushed into uninformed eloquence over the Trans Pacific Partnership news this morning – scant details of the agreement are available but there is nothing out yet on “much that is precious” passing away, or “loss of power”, or “the second great wave of colonisation” washing over us.

The TPPA is a trade agreement between twelve countries, in general improving the opportunities for trade between al these countries.

I don’t know how increasing trade between eleven other Pacific Rim countries will result in a furious storm that will “blow us far away”.

There will be a furious storm of protest in New Zealand from some long time opponents of the TPPA and of international trade agreements – Jane Kelsey will be more devastated by this agreement than the English were over their World Cup failure – but they have been blowing so hard against the TPPA already it will be little more than repeat performances with less ammunition available.

Trotters full post:

The TPPA Deal Is Done: Reflections On The Struggles To Come.

NEW ZEALANDERS are heading into a great storm of change. Much that is precious to us will pass away. As Pakeha we have grown accustomed to being the colonisers rather than the colonised. Loss of power will be a new experience for us. As the second great wave of colonisation washes over us, our best chance of survival will be to reach out our hands to thetangata whenua – whose feet are sunk deepest in the earth of Aotearoa. In the storm of change that is coming, the strength which that position gives to Maori will make them the only solid point around which everything else twists and turns. If we, as Pakeha, do not reach out and grasp that strength, the fury of the storm will blow us far away.

Deliberate or not he centred the post in a single paragraph.

As a trading nation our future is very reliant on trade with other countries. There’s little future in the protest movement.

The anti-TPPA storm that is coming will mostly be confined to a teacup.

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26 Comments

  1. As far as New Zealand is concerned, the agreement is based on fraud.

    The Crown has no mandate to legislate in New Zealand because the sovereignty of parliament is a fiction. The Crown insinuates that sovereignty means accountability, but sovereignty is based on virtue in relation to deity. The Crown also lies about the role of deity in law, describing the common law as case law when the common law has a theistic origin from the time of King Alfred the Great, who began his judgments, called dooms, with a Saxon version of the ten commandments.

    This situation is compounded by the fact that Crown employees such as politicans and judges swear an oath of allegiance to a head of state who holds the title of “Supreme Governor” of the Church of England”, applying an act of religion to endorse a secular state which misleads people about the role of deity in law and consequently injures their natural rights, treating them as persons with no such rights.

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    • Mike C

       /  6th October 2015

      @Ugly

      I bet you and Chris Trotter would get along like a house on fire if you bumped into each other at a Labour Party Party. LOL.

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      • kittycatkin

         /  6th October 2015

        Or not-imagine the meeting of two such massive egos !!!

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        • You saying I’ve got a massive ego to smear me because of my attack on the Crown, is is there another reason?

          Let’s not forget how wrong you were about King Alfred, KK.

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    • 4077th

       /  6th October 2015

      Is that you John Wanoa? Are you proclaiming yourself a king with UN appointed sherifs for backup?

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  2. traveller

     /  6th October 2015

    Chris deals in fairy tales and verges on tinfoil hat conspiracy. He is growing ever more fond of the emotive and bizarre analogies that have no semblance of reality about them. This is a trade agreement trade deal that is great for NZ in that exporters lose the majority of tariffs previously associated with market access. That how dimple it actually is. How are we ceding our independence and sovereignty? If we weren’t in we were out and I am immensely peoid of Groser who is a truly clever negotiator and a very principled man.

    Thanks to Fran O’Sullivan at the Herald.

    Specifically, the TPP agreement provides for:

    • Tariffs on NZ beef exports to TPP countries will be eliminated, with the exception of Japan where tariffs reduce from 38.5 per cent to 9 per cent.

    • New Zealand dairy exporters will have preferential access to new quotas into the United States, Japan, Canada and Mexico, in addition to tariff elimination on a number of products.

    • Tariffs on all other New Zealand exports to TPP countries – including fruit and vegetables, sheep meat, forestry products, seafood, wine and industrial products – will be eliminated Sources close to the negotiations say they have not only been “brutal” – but negotiators and trade ministers – were said to be “completed shagged.

    Importantly, the United States also compromised with Australia over the extent of intellectual property protections for biologics which are derived from biological sources including vaccines, blood, anti-toxins, human cells, proteins and antibodies, to treat diseases including cancer and rheumatoid arthritis.

    “Consumers will not pay more for subsidised medicines as a result of TPP and few additional costs are expected for the Government in the area of pharmaceuticals.” Groser says. ” There will also be no change to the Pharmac model.

    “Regarding data protection for biologic medicines, New Zealand’s existing policy settings and practices will be adequate to meet the provisions we have finally agreed on.”

    The compromise on biologics cleared the way for another roadblock to TPP to be removed following on from the autos issues which was solved earlier in the five day marathon negotiating session.

    The major regional trade deal lowers trade barriers in two-fifths of the worlds economy.

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    • How are we ceding our independence and sovereignty?

      By giving our power to those who operate by fraud.

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      • 4077th

         /  6th October 2015

        Do you drive a Japanese import car? Do you have a smartphone? These items have had tariffs removed through previous negotiations. So have we seen the end of the world because of it? It’s annoying you persist in trolling your way around here thinking you have relevant points.

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    • 4077th

       /  6th October 2015

      Well put Traveller and only some of the advantages. As an exporter of technology goods to the US and other countries mentioned this is excellent news for us and our customers…universities, research institutes, cancer therapy research. Idiots like Ugly Truth and other zealots of like have no interest in seeing NZ business do well…more filthy profits for the 1%. Protests are the usual rent-a-crowd courtesy of the Hawawera tribe, union hacks and wayward youth.

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    • Pharmac remains intact, which is a big plus, because somethings are better handled by a state owned monopoly, 🙂

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      • Maybe we will be able to get Medicinal natural cannabis directly from USA now ! LOL 🙂

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        • kittycatkin

           /  6th October 2015

          Why bother ? Our own NZ Green is the best in the world. Ask anyone who lives in Coromandel.

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  3. traveller

     /  6th October 2015

    That’s simple not dimple btw. 😩

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  4. tealeaves

     /  6th October 2015

    The funny thing about this to me is Chris’s conception of Maori people. How many billion dollar tribes are out there now. Maori love cutting deals, as far as I can see, can’t imagine that they’ll be wanting to cleave to the soil if new opportunities are opened up. It’s quite fusty.

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  5. Its interesting that this tiny country of ours is so full of people who think trade is a horrible thing. This deal on the face of it looks fine. The bogey monsters that Kelsey and others have pushed don’t seem to be there..

    If we want to see what a protectionist world looks like – look back to the world from 1870 through 1950. Major power blocs fighting regularly, standards of living for Joe Worker much, much lower than today.

    Fair and Free Trade grows the pie for all to share its really that simple – protectionism ultimately leads to violence

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  6. jaspa

     /  6th October 2015

    What on earth is he on about? We are to rely on Maori to save us from some great storm? Heaven help us! o_O

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