Lauda Finem death threat?

Lauda Finem have a record of playing dirty, but this time they have lowered themselves to what appears to be an implied death threat.

Lauda Finem share a common trait with Whale Oil – a lot of merit and potential in some of what they have done, but crapping on their own credibility by overestimating and overusing their power, and attacking abusing anyone who criticises them. Neither seem to have woken up to the fact that if you keep shitting on people you end up flushing yourself down the toilet.

Yesterday on Open Forum there was a discussion on Cameron Slater (as is common here) that led to some comments critical of Lauda Finem as well. I added a couple of fairly vague comments.

LF have a poor record of how they deal with criticism, and they took to attacking the messengers again.

LF have previously posted these comments:

Other than a few Twitter jibes following Pete Georges decision to allow his own blog to be splattered with anti Lauda Finem graffiti, team LF have had very little to do with the man.

They seem to have become obsessed with me. They don’t like their dirty behaviour exposed.

LF find Pete George’s online games boring. That’s in large part why we confine any comment we do make to twitter, so if Pete George does publish any stories unflattering of team LF then readers are unlikely to see a response on this website, Laudafinem.com. Team members are far more likely to post any response, if one is even required, via LF’s twitter feed.

I presume this refers to @LaudaFinem and @[Deleted as per court order] tag teaming on Twitter. And that’s how they responded last night.

LFdeaththreat

The implication of that is getting low, even by their standards.

They added this tweet:

LFSalaciousCrumbTweetThey seem to have an obsession that everyone conspires against them in their ongoing feud with Blomfield. And in any case what Salacious P Crumb said was quite reasonable expression of opinion, whoever uses the pseudonym (I don’t know and it’s not my business to know).

They don’t seem to understand how things work on an open blog, where any individual can discuss topics they want to discuss without censorship and without taking sides.

Lauda Finem seem to think that Your NZ should have no criticism of them at all but should allow them to expand their shitty fight against Blomfield here under multiple monikers – that accusation against Blomfield is very ironic.

I’m not going to censor comment on Lauda Finem here despite their stalking, attacks and threats.

They claim they are ‘justice campaigners’ – but justice should be open and honest. Lauda Finem seem to have problems understanding law and justice principles – they intimidate and threaten and try and gag anyone exposing their dodgy practices and think they have impunity from the law themselves.

Their delusions are likely to catch up on them.

Obviously exposing them again stands a high chance of resulting in another lengthy, misleading, dishonest (or ignorant, it can’t be ruled out that they believe their nonsense) avalanche of accusations and attacks on their blog, that’s how they operate. So be it.

They seem to be nuts but that shouldn’t exempt their dirty tactics from exposure.

UPDATE: not surprisingly they are now trying to play down their tweet:

You’ll have to try harder than that @PeteDGeorge, claiming metaphor as a death threat is desperate you tragic fuck –

Who is tragic? Their understanding of what a metaphor is seems as dodgy as their understanding of many things.

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75 Comments

  1. Pete Kane

     /  19th October 2015

    An expression relating to long thin reptiles with mental health issues comes to mind. Try not to let it get to you PG. Best wishes.

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    • It’s not getting to me. Hence I’m not hiding from it or cowing to them. You could ask them whether it’s getting to them.

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  2. Pete Kane

     /  19th October 2015

    Good on you Pete. I don’t want to sound prurient, but I really am intrigued to see who these guys/girls turn out to be (given the writing style I’m guessing guys but I’ve got that wrong before).

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  3. It’s Salacious P. But in any event, Lauda Finem are clearly childish idiots with too much time on their hands and a scant grasp of principles, ethics and decency. Much like many of their ‘targets’.

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  4. Maureen

     /  19th October 2015

    Tragic really, sounds a bit like school kids. Keyboard Warriors much?

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  5. jaspa

     /  19th October 2015

    I have even read on their site that I am Matt Blomfield! XD Do they seriously think Matt Blomfield spends his days making up different personas and conversing with himself on this blog?

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    • They seem to think that others must practice what they do. I’ve seen them conversing with themselves on here and elsewhere using different personas.

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  6. “They don’t seem to understand how things work on an open blog”? They do.

    They have the big tough words, along with the security of hiding behind a mother’s skirt of anonymity. Me too I suppose. I’m playing the same game as them, but not (I don’t think) portraying the big tough, fearless warrior. At least with Slater we know where the malevolence and chicanery comes from.

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  7. Mike C

     /  19th October 2015

    The [Edit – PG] Brothers are sounding scared and slightly psychotic 🙂

    They are just like Slater’n’Co … whose ethics slogan is:- “Do as I Say … Not as I Do”. LOL.

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    • DaveG

       /  19th October 2015

      In my opinion def not the [Edit – PG] Bros. a lot now research needed Mike C. The Grim Bros do not know the law that well not do they write anything like team LF.

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      • Mike C

         /  19th October 2015

        @DaveG

        The Brothers [Edit – PG] were real life brothers … were they not ???

        And they also wrote a lot of Fairy Tale stories … did they not ???

        I rest my case Your Honour 🙂

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  8. traveller

     /  19th October 2015

    Perhaps they have a valid message but for me the delivery and hollow threats invalidate all else. The very small world of people with small minds.

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    • Maureen W

       /  19th October 2015

      Sad really, I read a few of their articles around Feb/March this year which I found pretty interesting, but with the more recent Twitter bullying and veiled threats I’ve seen, they’ve lost their credibility for me.

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  9. Pete Kane

     /  19th October 2015

    Obviously they are reading – I just came back for quick look to see 3 “blanket’ down ticks. Tempted to use Mike’s LOL, but will leave that “patent” with him.

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    • Team LF consists of three deranged individuals who appear to be on GMT +12.

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    • Mike C

       /  19th October 2015

      @Pete Kane

      I wish that I did own a patent on “LOL” … because I would be a billionaire 🙂

      Commenter’s in here were utilizing the “LOL” when I arrived here, and heaps of people use it in here, not to mention the millions of people all over the world every day … so go for your life. LOL.

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      • Pete Kane

         /  19th October 2015

        No no, I know my place on the Your NZ pecking order. Perhaps when I’m a fully grown up Your NZer. [Edited – please don’t speculate on those identities at this stage. PG]

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  10. mike

     /  19th October 2015

    Jesus you lot – take a breath…let the brain be fed, and get gainful employment, if that is possible in dunny – den.

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  11. DaveG

     /  19th October 2015

    I remember SPC from WO, and in my humble opinion def not Matt Blomfield, I don’t believe your narcicostic and a con artist without a modal compass SPC.

    I also can’t see any death threat at all, whilst LF is taking pot shots at you Pete and I don’t understand why, unless you are Matt Blomfield operating under a different name ??? Again, def not, see above!

    And for the record. It’s my belief in the long haul Slater and LF will be proven correct over Blomfield, I have met the man, and many people said the same thing, they were correct. I hope the gagging order is lifted so WO can tell the entire story!

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    • “And for the record. It’s my belief in the long haul Slater and LF will be proven correct over Blomfield”

      Perhaps on some things, but they both have records of overstating their case, making promises they can’t or don’t follow up on, and making unsubstantiated accusations and inferences..

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    • Not the same Salacious, DaveG – I believe that was an SBC and not a SPC. For the record, I do believe Matt Blomfield is as dodgy as a back alley Delhi vindaloo.

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    • traveller

       /  19th October 2015

      We’ve seen most of the Blomfield story surely.. Slater gave us Blomfield’s pedigree in multiple hits. Not saying he’s not shifty at all, just that there are ways to go about things;

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  12. Budgieboy

     /  19th October 2015

    Dave I think everyone will agree with you that much of what’s been said about MB is accurate and that’s the real irony, I’ve never seen anyone here defending MB including PG.

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    • DaveG

       /  19th October 2015

      ah, Pete did (I believe) edit / or take down certain info at MB’s request / insistance, at least ther ewas some editing, so whilst perhaps not defending, perhaps softening of the evidence. Some months Ago, PG redacted part of one of my comments on MB as not backed with links evidance, no issues about that, I just added a few links to proven articles on MB to a subsequent comment. And, i have not eve seen one post by PG on here saying MB is a dodgy operator. But hundreds aledgng WO or and LF are!!

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      • Mike C

         /  19th October 2015

        @DaveG

        Yeah … but the difference is that Matt Blomfield hasn’t attacked or done the dirty or threatened anyone over here in this blog like how Lauda Finem and Slater’n’Co have 🙂

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        • DaveG

           /  19th October 2015

          “MB hasn’t” not that you know of, the dark side operate in mysterious ways. My belief is there is enough corporate evidence and skeletons to tell a very damning story. He has hurt a colleague in a big way, the poor chap was doing okay, until MB came along and hovered up a lot of his life’s work! On the other hand, WO has not ever taken funds left a trail of creditors or done harm. He might have pissed off a few people, like those he or Pete B banned Mike C.

          Yet despite all the destruction from Mb’s deals, and being an ex bankrupt, he kept his house, cars etc and still lived a great life. Rather odd!

          NB. Google MB’s name and the response details many deals, I couldn’t post links to them all.

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          • I’ve seen a lot of accusations but nothing to note of substance. Most of what LF claim in their posts has little to no credibility, from what I’ve seen they are conspiracy theory obsessed bullshit artists. They had some potentially admirable aims but their incompetence lets them down badly, as does their double standards on a number of things. If they wanted to be credible ‘justice campaigners’ they wouldn’t operate anonymously and try and claim they are protected from NZ law.

            At best claiming they are justice campaigners and setting themselves up to ignore the law is gross hypocrisy amongst other things.

            Their credibility is competing with WO’s in scraping the bottom.

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          • Mike C

             /  19th October 2015

            @DaveG

            If any of the regular commenter’s in here are able to give provable details of how Blomfield has harmed them legally or financially … then I am happy to take that on board.

            If not, then there is no credence to your above comment 🙂

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      • “And, i have not eve seen one post by PG on here saying MB is a dodgy operator. But hundreds aledgng WO or and LF are!!”
        Blomfield doesn’t blog like WO and LF. He doesn’t claim to be the biggest and best blogger in New Zealand. He doesn’t claim to be a justice campaigner.

        Blomfield doesn’t publish fresh information so there is little new to comment on.

        I’ve heard some of the stuff surrounding Blomfield, Slater and [Deleted as per court order] in particular and have heard claims from both sides of the feud. I really don’t know the rights and wrongs of it all. There’s a lot I don’t know. Most of it apart from LFs claims – possibly with some legitimate claims but it’s hard to tell them apart from some of their outlandish claims unless you are privy to the facts – there’s little in the public arena.

        So I don’t know enough facts about Blomfield to condemn him as a dodgy operator or not.

        I’ve allowed people here to grizzle about Blomfield as long as it’s not legally actionable as I allow anyone to gripe things.

        In posts here I’ve challenged claims made against WO and LF that were at the time unsubstantiated.

        At times I have hammer and tonged with lprent about some of thee issues.

        I have read this – Ex-pizza boss Matt Blomfield: Whaleoil and me – and wrote a critical post of part of that.

        I’ve also read a judgement included in that link and while it shows all of those involved in a questionable light it also shows that some claims made against Blomfield have been unsubstantiated.

        DaveG – by all means express your opinion about Blomfield as long as it doesn’t create any legal risk.

        And you are free to grizzle about me not saying things you would like me to say – but I’m free to say things how I see them and not gripe on demand.

        Oh, and Blomfield has never taken any action against me or abused me or threatened me or intimidated me or given me any personal reason to think he is dodgy, unlike some other people.

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        • DaveG

           /  19th October 2015

          Thanks Pete, appreciate and acknowledge the effort you went to, but an article written by none other than the Gurnard as he known!! He is known to be about as unbiased as a red bellied black snake waking from the long winter hybernation.

          A lot left out of his article Pete, but I will leave it there.

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          • I criticised him for that article in a post – https://yournz.org/2015/06/14/an-assault-revisited/

            In fact giving Blomfield a right of reply to that resulted in LF getting shitty with me after having been happy to use here as a forum to attack Blomfield. And they just kept getting shittier.

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            • DaveG

               /  19th October 2015

              I have wondered why LF has a pot shot at you from time to time, can’t understand why. I do read their posts, and agree on quite a few, but the pot shots at you had me baffled.

  13. Rob

     /  19th October 2015

    Seems Slater is up against Blomfield again this morning.
    http://thestandard.org.nz/cameron-slater-back-in-court/

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    • Mike C

       /  19th October 2015

      @Rob

      Thanks for that link 🙂

      I never bother to go over and read stuff on the Standard, simply because it’s posts and comments are way too far left, and other points of view a frowned upon and deleted.

      However, I suddenly found myself agreeing with a lot of what lprent and commenter’s were saying, which gave me a shock and almost made me feel like throwing up a bit in my mouth. LOL.

      Perhaps it’s almost a case of:- “The Enemy of my Enemy … Is my Friend” 🙂

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  14. Alan Wilkinson

     /  19th October 2015

    FWIW I don’t rate that as a death threat, just wordplay from big mouths with some big chips on their shoulders.

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    • I think there’s likely to be a degree of intimidation in it. There may be a bit of history of trying to gag any unfavourable comment about them.

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      • traveller

         /  19th October 2015

        Of course it’s intimidating. Childish at best and threatening at worst.

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      • It is a crude attempt at verbal bullying merely showing them to be idiots but I don’t believe it can reasonably be construed as a death threat.

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        • Maureen

           /  19th October 2015

          Think you’re right AW, however it’s almost so stupid that it lends itself to ridicule.

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        • Yeah, but they look tragic trying to describe it as a metaphor.

          And they have followed up with a string of petty attempts at some sort of personal dissing. Par for the course for the farcically self-labelled justice campaigners.

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  15. Loki

     /  19th October 2015

    Slater has cuddled up to those lauda finem clowns because he cannot fill his blog.
    He is desperate for content now that everybody has cut him off.
    And hiding your Islamic ranting behind your wife’s byline just isn’t filling the blog.
    And a mutual dislike of Blomfield.
    Blomfield is NEVER going to stop until he has taken Whaleoil away from Slater.

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    • Mike C

       /  19th October 2015

      @Loki

      Blomfield has missed out on taking the Whale away from Slater … because that has already been done by Belt. LOL.

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    • Loki , you’ve got it wrong there: “hiding your Islamic ranting behind your wife’s byline”. Spanish Bride has a distinctly different style than Cam, and while they might agree on the message, the style and substance is her own.

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      • Loki

         /  19th October 2015

        She is writing it . He writes hardly anything and hasn’t for over five years.
        Which is why his wife is filling it up with cut pastes from anti Islam sites ( I don’t disagree with what she is writing).
        But nothing gets public shed without him skimming it.
        Unlike the days when he had some horsepower supplying him. That would just go straight in with a whale post title and trademark slater spelling mistake 🙂

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        • Joe Bloggs

           /  19th October 2015

          haha – trademark slater spelling mistake – well put…

          While SB might be penning the islamophobic rants, she gets her messaging straight from Slater. That seems clear to me through the consistentcy of messaging across the whole WO site

          Personally I find the islamophobic stuff really problematic. My concerns go back to the old saw that if hate is the problem then how can it be the solution. The trouble with SB and other white supremacists like Kyle Chapman and their ilk is that islamophobes like them deny islamophobia while they’re the ones fomenting it.

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        • Mike C

           /  19th October 2015

          @Loki

          I have to say that I tend to agree with you, because I once sent a whole lot of info to Belt, and he told me that Slater would do a post on it.

          When the post was put up the following morning, at least 90% of the words written in the post were actually mine … with only a few extra sentences added by Slater to give the piece a much more sinister slant.

          So, even though I wrote the bulk of that post, and did all of the research on it … it was Cameron Slaters name that was put on it as being the “Author” 🙂

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        • traveller

           /  19th October 2015

          Very slow news over there these days. They’re never breaking or even just slightly behind with news these days. Repeating with a bit of acerbic commentary is all it is. They must all be preoccupied. I used to think it was doing the wages for Freed 😉 – staff of four including Cook. 😉

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    • DaveG

       /  19th October 2015

      Make no mistake Loki, Blomfield will be taken down by someone, we already know some thug assaulted him in his own home, rumoured to be a drug debt (but not substantiated), and we know it wasn’t Slater. The guy has made enemies all over the place, and caused major heart ache and pain for many many people.

      NB: By Taken down, it is not to suggest a hit or similar, just out of business, and fully exposed for his business practices.

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      • Loki

         /  19th October 2015

        I know ALL ABOUT BLOMFIELD.
        And yes, he is a “ratbag”*
        But, he ain’t giving up. He will never stop until Slater is a dribbling wreck laying in a puddle of his own piss.

        *ratbag… A slater lusk favourite..

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      • Maureen W

         /  19th October 2015

        @ DaveG
        The Blomfield/Slater/LaudafineM argy-bargy is not of any great general interest. While I realise other characters have been involved, the articles come across and being more “personal vendetta” orientated. I suspect there are nasty, under-handed bastards on both sides of the fence, however one side uses blog posts to expose the other.

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    • Never hug a corpse, eh Slater. Turns out that when YOU’RE the corpse, it still applies (or maybe, given that you were pretty stinky to start off with, perhaps it applies ESPECIALLY).

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  16. Maureen W

     /  19th October 2015

    I have a question .. are the Blomfield files a paid for hit job? i seem to recall somewhere reading MB saying he’d never heard of CS and Whaleoil until his acquired information was published?

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    • Loki

       /  19th October 2015

      Yes. And no.

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      • Maureen W

         /  19th October 2015

        I understand the first sentence, the second is more confusing:)

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        • Loki

           /  19th October 2015

          The clown never gets paid properly.. Imagines an enormous payoff that never occurs.
          He is (as he would put it) the reverse Midas.
          And now he has basically spat the dummy and scared off any paying clients I expect he will need to ramp up the begging from a diminishing number of readers.

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    • To add to Looki’s observation, Maureen. You can spot a hit job a mile away, particularly when it is a relatively obscure issue in which the MSM have no interest. When there is a payoff happening, you will see a series of articles appearing, often with quite heavy handed moralising. Some which come to mind are:
      Hubbards Cereals (paid for by Sanitarium) on which I have written confirmation that this was a paid hit job from none other than Pete Belt himself.
      Sugar/Coke paid for by Carrick Graham (I happen to agree with Slater’s stance on this, but that’s mere coincidence). Graham is the brains that has argued that tobacco-style lobby pressure is being brought to bear.
      Concrete Cancer cover up (paid for by a competitor in the concrete industry)
      The Martin Honey/REAA/Paul Barber series.
      Plenty of other examples if you apply the ‘hit job spotter’s pocket guide’ outlined in my opening paragraph.
      BTW Judith Collins better start heeding ‘never hug a corpse’ PDQ if she isn’t already – though Slater has done some furious spade work to repair the damage done.

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      • Looki here, sorry Loki, think my early onset Parkinsons causes an occasional double hit of the keys.

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      • Maureen W

         /  19th October 2015

        @SPC
        Yes, the traits are quite easy to spot once you’ve spotted them once.

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      • Mike C

         /  19th October 2015

        @SalaciousP

        Whilst I’d had very strong suspicions Slater’n’Co had been doing heaps of “Paid for Posts” over the past several years or more … it wasn’t until Judith Collins made the gigantic mistake of writing about “Concrete Cancer” in her weekly newspaper column, that I finally had no doubt 🙂

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  17. RightOfGenghis

     /  19th October 2015

    A long bow Pete. Perverse humour perhaps. A little obsessional yes, but this is not a death threat. You would be laughed out of court to spin it as such. Chrs RoG

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    • On it’s own, yes.

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    • Mike C

       /  19th October 2015

      @Rog

      You are the one who needs to stop spinning shite 🙂

      People like yourself only come put of the woodwork every so often … whenever your owner calls you with their “Dog-Whistle”.

      Sad for You … but True. LOL.

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