Cannabis Party versus Peter Dunne

Cannabis Party leader Julian Crawford has taken issue with things Peter Dunne said on Q & A on Sunday – in fact he claims Dunne lied.

Dunne and UIC ‘misleading the public’

The Cannabis Party is accusing Associate Health Minister Peter Dunne of misleading the public over medical cannabis.

Dunne told TVNZ’s Q+A programme that although “we talk about medicinal cannabis, actually there’s no such thing”.

Cannabis Party leader Julian Crawford said Dunne was lying when he claimed that raw cannabis was not medicinal unless it was packaged into a pharmaceutical product.

“In 23 States of the US they have legalised medical cannabis in its raw form, without the need for any involvement from the pharmaceutical industry. The pharmaceutical industry has a vested interest in keeping medical cannabis illegal,” Crawford said.

“Peter Dunne has deliberately deceived the New Zealand public when he claimed that raw cannabis was not medicinal. In reality around 40% of New Zealand’s cannabis users are using it for medical reasons. Even when smoked it has medicinal benefits.”

The Cannabis Party are calling for patients and their caregivers to be able to form non-profit organisations to grow and dispense medical cannabis in New Zealand, without all the delays and costs involved with clinical trials.

“Dunne is simply a glove puppet of the pharmaceutical lobby, he has not softened his stance one bit regarding the medical use of cannabis in its natural form,” Crawford said.

The Cannabis Party has denied that it wants to use the medical cannabis issue as a backdoor for recreational use.

“The party wants medical cannabis in its natural form available now so that thousands of patients with hundreds of illnesses can find some relief,” Crawford said.

“Dunne and United in Compassion have muddied the waters with misinformation that is preventing meaningful dialogue around the medical cannabis laws.”

TVNZ press release of the interview with Dunne:

Health Minister open to medicinal marijuana

Associate Health Minister Peter Dunne told TVOne’s Q+A programme that he’s open to the possibilities cannabis based medicines offer.

“I think it would be a really good thing if we could get clinical trials in New Zealand, because that way we can work through exactly what the formulations might be, what the product should look like and who the patients who it will benefit could be, because at the moment we’ve got very general talk. We talk about medicinal cannabis. Actually, there’s no such thing. There’s medicinal cannabis products. And I think it would be very, very good to get some much more specific and scientific evidence about the efficacy before we can make decisions,” said Mr Dunne.

Both Mr Dunne and campaigner Toni-Marie Matich said there was still a stigma attached to cannabis based products:

Absolutely. We’ve written to and approached 300 organisations this year to have really logical, responsible discussion for their patients said Toni-Marie Matich. Look, it took six months and three banks to get a bank account she said.

Video of interview: Dunne open to Medicinal marijuana (13:19)

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  1. I agree, Dunne IS misleading the public. Aotearoa/NZ has amongst the highest levels per capita of ‘illegal cannabis use’ in the world & it is being used for med-use too. I personally know people who have used cannabis for its painkilling effects (as I have).
    Helen Kelly has brought it to light, that she too has had to break the law to get cannabis oil for her cancer. Even if you jump through the numerous hoops to get ‘legal sativex’ it is not funded by Pharmac & costs more than black-market cannabis (>$1000/month). “Why is this so Mr. Dunne ?”

    Dunne is just ‘dragging the chain’ (for what ever reasons)nearly all other OECD countries that allow medicinal use, also allow it in the raw plant form too.
    Maybe he should realise that this info. is easily available on the internet. We are not ‘mushrooms’ to be kept in the dark & fed B-S.
    All the misinfo. he spouts about ‘opening the flood-gates’ is just more ‘reefer madness’ style exaggerated nonsense.
    In those countries that have allowed either Med-use or both uses.. they have actually found that after the ‘initial novelty wore off’ usage has actually dropped off. btw; the sky has not fallen either !!

    “Bravo Julian !” 🙂

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  2. Rob

     /  27th October 2015

    Dunne is an idiot.
    “Dunne is simply a glove puppet of the pharmaceutical lobby, he has not softened his stance one bit regarding the medical use of cannabis in its natural form,” Crawford said.
    At last, someone with a bit of a voice has finally said it instead of pussy footing around the issue.

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    • Robby

       /  27th October 2015

      What really reveals his true agenda, is when he is asked at the end of the interview what people who are already using cannabis illegally should do. He says “Talk to your doctor”, then a minute later acknowledges there is a problem with prejudice amongst the medical profession. Then mentions sativex again. Hmmm…….

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  3. Geoffrey

     /  27th October 2015

    Dunne’s is a classic corporate driven response based on the premise that no approvals can be granted unless and until a ‘processing fee’ can be leveraged.

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  4. Robby

     /  27th October 2015

    It is a bit disingenious of Mr Crawford to claim that “Peter Dunne has deliberately deceived the New Zealand public…” (although I don’t disagree), when “The Cannabis Party has denied that it wants to use the medical cannabis issue as a backdoor for recreational use.”
    Statements like the above play right into the hands of Dunne and his ilk. Why should recreational use be illegal? I’d appreciate it if someone here who supports prohibition could explain this.

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  5. John Schmidt

     /  27th October 2015

    So a shit head thinks he is the authority to authorise the use of medical treatments. The reason why this is hard is because once you head into the world of medicine there are rules and procedures that must be followed to ensure safe use. There are thousands of possible treatments that are currently going through the process of trials, testing and approval. Why should cannabis avoid this requirement if it’s to become a main stream medicine. Why not go back centuries and let the charlatons determine what medicine is good for you. The approval procedures have been developed by lessons learnt in past releases of drugs that have caused huge harm. The rules protect us from the pharmaceutical companies not aid them. Dunne has even proposed that NZ could take the lead in going through the approval process for medicinal cannabis products but regretfully he also said there is not a lot of actual product in a form that can be tested. This debate is clouded by shit heads who want a back door for their recreational use, it’s a bit like asking an alcoholic if it’s a good idea to drink alcohol.

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    • Rob

       /  27th October 2015

      Looks like the resident jackass has changed his name again.

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      • @ John Schmitt, you are dead right, UICNZ is making significant headway be separating itself from the greater issue of law reform. By making it about smoking it and growing it yourself, your not really after a medical treatment, but a herbal remedy, no one doubts that smoking it has therapeutic effects, but its not quality controlled, dose measured, and frankly in a society that has been edging away from smoking, to allow in another form of smoking would be “counterproductive” to put it nicely. Peter Dunne is not the enemy of Medical Cannabis, its NORML, ALCP and all the crazies in between that have been holding things back for those with severe medical need. I honestly feel they should stick to the decriminalisation debate, as there has been some crazy disproportionate punishments handed out lately which deserve some serious debate.

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        • Zedd

           /  28th October 2015

          @SLB
          be careful who you say are your friends & enemies..
          btw; we are not all crazy, but some of us are really MAD about this issue !

          Dunne would have us believe he has all the answers.. but he is looking like he wants to ‘reinvent the wheel’ its NOT necessary !! :/

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        • Rob

           /  28th October 2015

          @Shane Le Brun
          Yes well, why don’t you come back in a year and tell us how much headway has been made. Betcha we’re still in the same or very near the same position.

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          • Why are you putting all the blame on Dunne. Nothing will change on recreational use while National are in Government. And Labour aren’t exactly pushing for it. Despite it being their policy Greens are lukewarm in practice too. And try getting Winston to agree.

            That’s too hard. Stick to dissing Dunne, it’s as futile but you probably feel like you are letting off a bit of steam.

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            • Rob

               /  28th October 2015

              Dunne has stood in the way for years. What was it 10 maybe 12 years ago? Dunne said and I quote this loosely, There will be no discussion of the decriminalization or legalization of cannabis if you want my support in parliment. Like I said, bit loose but you get the gist.

            • He’s changed quite a bit. Nats won’t change on this.

            • @PG

              I hear you.. but Dunne is the minister responsible for drug policy.
              Who do you suggest we address our frustrations to ?
              I personally have written to other MPs & either had no response or just got their party line.
              Its 2015 not 1975, ignoring it will not make it go away or get any policy changes that the majority are calling for ! 😦

            • Have you tried David Seymour?

            • Geoffrey Monks

               /  28th October 2015

              The pattern is clear: notwithstanding thousands of years of evidence and the personal experience of most of us, cannabinoid is to be deemed unsafe until it has been processed and a profit has been extracted. Maybe it is time to do what Russell Brand encourages. If our elected representatives refuse to do what we elect them to do: render them irrelevant. If you want to use cannabis then grow it and use it but do not try to sell it!

        • Robby

           /  28th October 2015

          Shane, it is a herbal remedy that WORKS! I am not for a minute advocating that epileptic children should have pot smoke blown down their throats. Obviously in the case of these kids, a product with specific known quantities needs to be formulated. However, in the case of consenting adults, with serious pain issues (like I had), there is no need to muck around removing the THC. As long as cannabis is illegal, nobody who is currently using it for pain relief will dare come out in public and admit it. The only reason I did, was because I no longer use it.

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  6. Rob

     /  27th October 2015

    Herpy derpy

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