Dotcom fails to delay extradion hearing

Dotcom’s extradition hearing will resume next week.

Kim Dotcom’s lawyers have failed to get his extradition hearing delayed and will begin their defence next week

Radio NZ: Dotcom’s bid to stop extradition hearing rejected

Kim Dotcom’s bid to stop his extradition hearing has been rejected and his lawyers will open his defence on Monday.

In a ruling released late this afternoon, Judge Nevin Dawson said he would not hear full arguments of the application to have the extradition hearing halted now and his full reasons will be released at the end of the hearing.

The defence will open their case on Monday.

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  1. kittycatkin

     /  29th October 2015

    I’d have thought that he’d want to get it over and done with if he’s so confident ot the outcome.

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    • Sponge

       /  29th October 2015

      Precisely. The sooner we are rid of this disgusting fat slug the better. Sure the raid on his home was way over the top but I have seen nothing that makes me think he should not be going to the states to face the charges he is accused of.

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      • Nelly Smickers

         /  29th October 2015

        Goodness me Sponge. If that’s how you feel about our entrepreneurial German friend, I shudder to think what your reaction will be to the 750 Syrian refugees when they arrive 😦

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        • Sponge

           /  29th October 2015

          Don’t start me……

          This country has enough problems with the existing underclass. Why the hell do we need to import another underclass who will bring their “value system” from the very Shitholeistan they are trying to escape. Absolute madness.

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  2. Kevin

     /  29th October 2015

    I can’t wait to hear what the defence has to say. The only defence I see is KDC claiming that his employees acted without his knowledge when they uploaded illegal material or that no illegal material was uploaded by megaupload and its associated companies.

    With regards to the former KDC ruled with an iron first so I don’t see that defence flying. And with regards to the latter it’s a case of who do you believe – a fat german or the FBI? And the FBI has plenty of evidence to back up their accusations, including emails and screenshots.

    Also, I’ve also find it ironic that the Left have gone into bat for KDC when KDC ran a porn site (actually a site that illegally hosted copyrighted porn vids) called megaporn. I always thought the Left was all against porn.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  29th October 2015

      I haven’t heard any accusation that Megaupload uploaded copyright violating material themselves, just that they encouraged their clients to do so – the latter being the only thing that distinguished them from other cloud storage services or for that matter from the ISPs that facilitated and benefited from the traffic.

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      • kittycatkin

         /  29th October 2015

        KDC claims that he invented cloud storage. He must have been very young.

        I wish that he’d learn that useful little punctuation mark, the comma.The lack of commas makes him look uneducated.

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        • Yes – Dotcom “invented cloud storage” (he claimed).

          Other scholars maintain that the roots of cloud computing date back to the 1950s when Herb Grosch (creator of Grosch’s Law) predicted that one day the entire world would function on dumb terminals powered by as few as fifteen mega data centers.
          Hardy Schloer, during the 1950s, went a step ahead by patenting his early execution and employment of cloud computing, which he termed as ‘One page web”. It comprised of cloud storage, multi user applications and back-end-servers replete with security features!

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      • Kevin

         /  30th October 2015

        Read the indictment.

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        • Kevin

           /  30th October 2015

          Click to access 78786408-Mega-Indictment.pdf

          37. BRAM VAN DER KOLK, who has also been known as BRAMOS, is a resident of both the Netherlands and New Zealand. VAN DER KOLK is a Dutch citizen. VAN DER KOLK is the “Programmer-in-Charge” for MUL and MMG. VAN DER KOLK, as the director and sole shareholder of Mindpoint International Limited LLC, effectively owns 2.5% of the shares of MUL. From the onset of the Conspiracy through to the present, VAN DER KOLK has overseen programming on the Mega Conspiracy websites, as well as the underlying network infrastructure. VAN DER KOLK is also responsible for responding to DMCA copyright infringement takedown notices sent to Mega Conspiracy sites. Lastly, VAN DER KOLK oversaw the selection of featured videos that were posted onto Megavideo.com, and he was previously in charge of the rewards program. VAN DER KOLK has personally uploaded multiple infringing copies of copyrighted works to Internet sites associated with the Mega Conspiracy and has searched servers controlled by the Mega Conspiracy for infringing copies of copyrighted works at the request of other co-conspirators, including several of the defendants. In calendar year 2010, VAN DER KOLK received more than $2 million from the Mega Conspiracy.

          oo. On or about September 1, 2008, VAN DER KOLK uploaded an infringing copy of the copyrighted television program entitled
          “BBC.Earth.-.The.Power.Of.The.Planet.5of5.Rare.Earth.XviD.AC3.MVGroup.org.avi” to Megaupload.com and e-mailed the URL file to another individual. An infringing copy of this copyrighted work was still present on servers leased by the Mega Conspiracy as of September 8, 2011.

          rr. On or about October 25, 2008, VAN DER KOLK uploaded an infringing copy of a copyrighted motion picture entitled “Taken 2008 DVDRip Repack [A Release Lounge H264 By Micky22].mp4” to Megaupload.com and e-mailed the URL link for the file to another individual. An infringing copy of this copyrighted work was still present as of October 27, 2011,on a server in the Eastern District of Virginia controlled by the Mega Conspiracy.

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  3. Robby

     /  29th October 2015

    Here’s a little fictional bedtime story for everyone….
    A German citizen applies for residency here. He has a rather ‘chequered’ past, but has managed to accumulate a large amount of money over his lifetime. Immigration let him in, as he passes the English language test with flying colours, gets extra points for having over $10 million in liquid assets, and says he plans to stay and raise his family here. Shortly after arriving, he purchases several hectares of industrial land, and proceeds to build a large self-storage facility on it. He lets this space on a ‘pay monthly, per unit’ basis, and doesn’t ask any questions of his clients regarding the contents of said units. A few months later, police raid the facility after a tip-off, and find that several of the units contain stolen property, and one houses a mobile meth lab. They then charge the German with several counts of receiving stolen property, & conspiracy to manufacture methamphetamine. Would this be fair?

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  29th October 2015

      Yes, that is the Dotcom version. The US version is that the German charged visitors to the rental units and rewarded the rental clients handsomely for having lots of visitors while at the same time being carefully and deliberately blind to what was going on in those units.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  29th October 2015

        However both of these versions overlook the main issue I have with the Dotcom extradition is that the fundamental offence of copyright violation is not extraditable and the extradition is only made legal by amplifying the base offence with a money-laundering charge. I believe that is an artifice that should not be permitted.

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        • Robby

           /  29th October 2015

          So we sort of agree Alan? I guess there’s a first time for everything 😉

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  29th October 2015

            I’m not sure if you agree with my reason for believing Dotcom should not be extradicted or if you have another reason.

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            • Robby

               /  29th October 2015

              I thought him being extradited for copyright infringement was a bit dodgy. I wasn’t aware they were using a money laundering charge to leverage it. So thanks for that.

            • Jeeves

               /  30th October 2015

              I agree- They’ve thrown in the catch-all of wire fraud-money laundering-racketeering etc to turn a civil court issue into a mafia-superbust.

              So if you steal a dollar in America, maybe you get a sentence of a year- but if you post that dime, its money laundering, and if you send it electronically its wire fraud- and if you tell the recipient its coming his way – that’s conspiracy- suddenly you are facing the death penalty!

              My opinion is that the American legal system is so off the radar that we should treat this like we would if it came from China, which incidentally is starting to look as though they’ve got a better idea of human rights than Uncle Sam.

              My view of KDC – if you strip away the hateful bigotry of people like Sponge and see this for what is actually is- an entrepreneur who has transformed uploading to such a degree that it is threatening the whole world of artistic copyright, and all of the industries which are dependent on it, and not to forget the artists who should get the benefit of their works. However- this in itself is okay by me- as long as he himself was not doing the infringing – because globally , artists have used the emerging technology as a compelling reason to free themselves from the old model and that’s just progress, plain and simple.

              I wouldn’t expect to see the Postman arrested for delivering blackmail – or drugs but unfortunately for KDC there appears to be evidence that he may have been paying the drug dealers and blackmailers for using his service. Now that’s a bit tricky.
              But it still should be an argument between corporates in a civil court, and not involve NZ stormtroopers.

              What would we think if for example- if Sir Bob Jones was extradited to the US to face multiple charges all based on the fact that he may have deliberately overlooked some utility issues in an apartment he rented to someone in Wall street?
              We’d be jumping up and down – but because idiots cloud the whole issue with bigotry and partisanship about – fat germans – it is actually happening – to a NZ citizen. A wealthy and powerful one at that.

              Wait until they start trying to extradite our teenagers for downloading Miley Cyrus, using the precedents they are now laying down.

            • jaspa

               /  30th October 2015

              @ Jeeves

              He is NOT a NZ citizen.

        • Kevin

           /  30th October 2015

          Criminal copyright infringement is an extraditable offence – and this rests on whether or not megaupload uploaded copyrighted files themselves.

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  4. Zedd

     /  29th October 2015

    I still think.. had he not stepped on a few ‘powerful’ toes during 2014, he would probably not be going through any of this ! :/

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    • Sponge

       /  29th October 2015

      Well the he got arrested in January 2012 – do you really think that all the charges would have been dropped if he had not initiated the profoundly stupid “Internet Party”?

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  5. THUNDERBIRD 4

     /  30th October 2015

    ” we will identify why the United States case is flawed” smells a little bit like the BIG REVEAL he promised all of NZ on John Key at the last election

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  6. traveller

     /  30th October 2015

    Dotcom is a common recidivist criminal and a most loathsome man. He has manipulated people into doing his bidding and bought the others. I see nothing to admire in him. Yes, I’ll grant that he’s intelligent but what is that without some sort of moral compass. He lacks the appeal, looks or charm to carry off the victimless Robin Hood routine. That Snowden, Assange, Greenwald and the anti-surveillance team joined forces with his laughable “Moment of Truth” ( nothing but a series of lies culminating in a forged email and limp balloons) tells me all I need to know about them also.

    Of course when Chubs flies out to the USA he will be given special fatboy status and delivered directly on to the runway. They’ll put him on the seaside of the plane but nonetheless thousands will be there to see the back of him.

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