Genter versus Robertson, Greens versus Labour

David Farrar has also posted on Chris Trotter’s hopes for a Trudeau type leader emerging on New Zealand’s left (see Scouring Labour for some Trubro magic posted here on Tuesday).

In Does Labour have a Trudeau? Farrar talks of an interesting observation:

I was listening to RNZ’s The Week in Politics today while running. It was on the budget surplus. What struck me was that Julie-Anne Genter came across as far more reasoned and logical on the economy, than Grant (Robertson).

He was still arguing that somehow the seven years of deficits were caused by National while also attacking National for not spending more. It was very weak, while Genter actually made quite reasonable arguments.

Green finance spokesperson Genter has always made quite reasonable arguments, especially on her speciality transport. Someone who is smart and eloquent and makes sure they know their stuff can shift their strengths to other issues.

Last week I posted about observations made by Colin James:

Little versus Shaw, plus the Winston factor

Colin James has made an interesting observation about Andrew Little and James Shaw in his latest column. He wonders if Little may struggle to look like Leader of the Opposition alongside Shaw.

Add to that Genter alongside Robertson as finance spokespeople and Labour versus Green could get very interesting.

Especially if Genter is elevated to co-leader alongside Shaw.

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  1. Mike C

     /  29th October 2015

    The Labour Leadership seems old and tired and a looks and sounds like a bunch of fuddy duddys … whereas the Greens to be putting a great deal of thought into how they can refresh their party leadership and get rid of the dead wood a couple of years out from the next election.

    If Genter replaces Turei in the near future … then that may very well create a much more winning combination than Little and Sykes … and the Greens might hoover up lots of Labour votes in 2017.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  29th October 2015

      Turei is a liability other than for the hard Left and separatists. But I don’t understand the rump of Labour voters remaining to know whether they would break the habit of a lifetime to vote for someone else or just abstain in disgust.

      • Joe Bloggs

         /  29th October 2015

        Yes Turei is a complete liability, however James Shaw compensates for that weakness in the Greens… since his arrival on the scene, Metiria has been remarkably quiet…

        Squint enough and a Shaw-led Green Party could look like a viable alternative to voting for Andrew Little (or whoever will be leading the Labour Party at the next election)

  2. Pete Kane

     /  29th October 2015

    If I’m honest (as someone, broadly speaking, from the left) I find my confidence in both Grant and Julie-Anne a touch underwhelming.

  3. Zedd

     /  29th October 2015

    If the ‘Left’ want to get into power in 2017.. they need to try & cooperate, not fight each other. BUT the Greens do seem to be moving more to the centre, with the promotion of James Shaw.
    I even hear a few MPs in the Govt. using the expression ‘Blue-Greens’ as if, either trying to win the Greens over to their side (possible coalition) OR just be sneaky & pinch their voters who are slightly right-leaning ?
    Yes the run up to 2017 could be very interesting.. :/

    Julie-Anne is looking a bit like Jacinda (a future leader of their party ??)

  4. Pete Kane

     /  29th October 2015

    I know he’s very unpopular here, but, at a capacity level David Cunliffe is streets a head of Grant in the finance role (and frankly, always will be – as would David Clark IMHO).

    • Reckon ole Cunners is unpopular almost everywhere…

    • traveller

       /  29th October 2015

      Auckland is key to Labour’s success or otherwise. Cunliffe won his own electorate and for some strange reason he seemed to have wider Auckland support. Labour has to have Auckland on board. They own the Council and South Auckland is pretty well their only reliable Heartland. As dead wood Mahuta is AWOL they need to make sure Sepuloni is given a lot to say.

  5. traveller

     /  29th October 2015

    What, where and who are the left of the left plotting? For once they seem to be quite without a natural home.

  6. Mike C

     /  29th October 2015


    I think there was a lot of abstaining by Labour voters in 2014. However, I reckon the next time around in 2017 a lot of those voters will be looking around for somewhere useful to put their vote, where it will actually go towards helping their personal situation in some way.


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