Ben Rachinger speaks again

Ben rachinger has kept popping up from time to time thrioughtout the year. He popped up here in Whale Oil jumping the Rawshark yesterday

This prompted quite a bit of reaction and discussion. Some tried to discredit Ben, some tried to shut him up, while some tried to push him into revealing things he was unwilling to talk about. Some did all three in various ways.

Here are some of the things Ben wanted to talk about.

I am not Rawshark. Always wanted to be an independent investigative journalist and to an extent I’ve done some good digging in all this. However I’m a young guy with my own upbringing and shortcomings. Those have long been on display.

The reason I’m here on this site now commenting is that I believe if you are going to be politically tribal, you police your own. Rawshark et al should be policed by their own – that didn’t happen. Slater et al should have been policed by their own – that didn’t happen.

So where does this leave us? It boggles the mind.

And:

Due to the nature of the digital skills of the hacker we can only really find out the identity of the hacker from Mr Hager. Hager has stated he met the hacker and knows his identity. No amount of digging can provide info that isn’t there. Whether I was right or not with my initial musings means little.

This is really internecine political warfare writ large. I’ve done my time on both the Left and the Right. Neither is truly for the people in my opinion. So possibly what needs to happen is the writing of a book/story that is balanced and shines the light on all the players involved.

And:

For myself, my ‘Moment of Truth’ was when Hager didn’t provide the details on the journalists who had been working with Mr Slater. To decide that one is a god, in a way, and to control the destiny of the media or a political faction is something that no one person should ever aspire to or want.

That’s the root problem here. Each side has, in their own and distinct ways, tried to play God with our system of governance. The clusterfuck that this represents, in that no side is clean or clear, has only exacerbated the general publics dislike of the political scene.

That is the issue. Instead of a new flag? We should look at what our democracy really is. Who we vote for. How they work. What tactics they use. Examination of their agendas and motives is both enlightening and disheartening. Because truly, we have no champions. Just bad and worse self-styled ‘liberators’.

And:

I’m of the opinion that the identity of RS is a straw man for all of us. We are missing the point. The point is A) whom was involved in the hack and for what motives.. And B) Do we want what Mr Slater is alleged to have done with XYZ people to go unchallenged? I’m of the mind that both are important points but very difficult to balance in your mind unless you’re independent. Mr Hager will end up naming Rawshark or he won’t. But his relationship with Rawshark and the how/why/where and whom is not my story to tell.

Ben has had a chequered short history online but I think there’s some important issues raised here that haven’t been given enough attention, in particular the abuse of power, the abuse of democracy, and the abuse of journalism.

Please in comments stick to the issues raised in these comments, peripheral issues have had plenty of airing on other threads.

86 Comments

  1. Mike C

     /  16th November 2015

    Well I for one, thoroughly enjoyed Ben Rachingers presence here yesterday.

    He came across as being an extremely well mannered thoughtful and highly intelligent young man.

    Georges blog is one of the few online places that Ben will receive a fair hearing from the majority of the commenter’s and the blog owner.

    I hope he returns 🙂

    • Pete Kane

       /  16th November 2015

      Mike unfortunately I had to leave that conversation last night (which was disappointing given my interest in the DP saga). When I left, a couple of comments questioned whether it really was Ben. Was that resolved to the extent it could be? ie It all appears above board. I was going to suggest that if PG was willing they should talk on the phone to give more confidence to those participating. But actually a live cam Skype would be the obvious. If it’s all genuine, this is a good site for him to put his case in that most of the YNZ regulars would give him a fair go (as long as he plays with a straight bat of course).

      • “When I left, a couple of comments questioned whether it really was Ben.”

        I have no doubt it is Ben for a number of reasons. Those raising doubts have tried to discredit and distract, and to smear. They simply made the accusations up.

        • DaveG

           /  16th November 2015

          Thats BS Pete, I do not believe it was Ben, I know you believe it was, but there was NO smear. I will repeat, and ASK again.

          Ben, you had a fair run on WO, and he published a fe wvideos of yours, why no more Ben, or was th epurpose to get a Trojan Horse in on one of the Videos?

          WO gave you a fiar shot, and after the things you have done to him, why should anyone trust you again.

          Miss J Williams Ben, What went on there, it was far from Cool, not funny either?

          You seem ot have worked with WO, The STandard, Bloomfield, Latino, and others, Why so many and from diametrically opposed sides Ben, please tell us how that works.

          There is nothing mad eup ther eas you suggest Pete, just a lot of unanswered questions.

          • Some accusations and attacks have been simply made up, especially on whether it was really Ben or not, because there are no facts to base them on.

            I have double checked and stated I was satisfied no one was misusing Ben’s identity (which would have been an issue).

            And you seem to have chosen to not believe that but believe something that someone has not provided any evidence for – because it was made up.

            This “it wasn’t really Ben” stuff is absurd. The same could be said of anyone commenting here. The same could be said of me (it virtually has been). The same could be said of anything on any blogs or in any media. Is it John Key really being quoted?

            It’s just utterly ridiculous.

          • Rob

             /  16th November 2015

            “…just a lot of unanswered questions.” And for some strange reason, you seem to think he owes you answers.

            • DaveG

               /  16th November 2015

              @Rob Well, that’s what everyone seems to be missing, Ben has been friendly with almost every blog, offering to assist, then its all over. Hence my questions. I have observed Ben since he first appeared on WO several years ago, watched the twitter wars he sparked, the working with Tony Latino, the going to the police, the investigation, Toreson and thompson, Blomfield, the accusations of a proposed Standard Hack? Then doing the dirty on Miss J Williams. Yet, who is he actually backing? Who? that is what i want answered, as without understanding why he was on side with almost every blogger, then 100% against them, one cannot believe what he is up to now. Don’t take my word for it, take a look around the internet.

          • THUNDERBIRD 4

             /  16th November 2015

            @DaveG – interesting point on Rachinger using so many players. Not saying that this blog is the lucky, or perhaps unlucky last, but yes he does seem to running from one end of the spectrum to the other.

  2. Kevin

     /  16th November 2015

    My gut feeling is that he’s an attention seeker and full of you know what. But that’s just my gut feeling.

    • Pete Kane

       /  16th November 2015

      Thanks Kev. I’ve just crossed the ditch for a few days (first time in decades to actually step outside of an Aussie airport) so don’t expect to follow too much but I’ll be interested how the story evolves over the coming days. (Melbourne Airport littered with cops and military – couldn’t see any firearms with the latter but all wearing protective vests.)

    • THUNDERBIRD 4

       /  16th November 2015

      @Kevin. Attention seeker sums it up, but I am happy to be convinced otherwise.

      • Ben Rachinger

         /  16th November 2015

        Why don’t you just let everyone know who you are? You obviously have a deep vested interest in these events and it will be instantly recognisable what that is by the revelation of your identity.

        • Janee

           /  16th November 2015

          @ BR
          “B) Do we want what Mr Slater is alleged to have done with XYZ people to go unchallenged?” I cannot answer without the following information:
          What has Mr Slater alleged to have done? Who is XYZ? What has gone unchallenged?

          • One of the things Slater is alleged to have done is payed Ben to hack The Standard. As far as I know that is still under police investigation.

            I doubt that is all that he has allegd to have done. I suspect there could be a few things to come out of the woodwork.

            • Kevin

               /  16th November 2015

              IIRC correctly the police told Prentice to piss off. And this was from a thread Prentice wrote on The Standard.

            • Mike C

               /  16th November 2015

              @Kevin

              Can you find that link and put it in here?

              Thanks.

            • lperent: Charge Cameron Slater or let me hack systems
              That looks more like a challenge to the police rather than writing off any investigation.

            • Kevin

               /  16th November 2015

              @PG @Mike C

              That’s the thread I’m referring to. Somewhere in it I’m sure I recall Prentice complaining that the cops aren’t taking action or something similar which I take to mean they told him to go away.

              What doesn’t make sense to me is that if you’re going to pay someone to hack a site why hire someone local? You want as such distance between you and the person you’re hiring. By that I mean you want them to know as little about you as possible and vice versa.

            • Ben Rachinger

               /  16th November 2015

              Why would Police initiate another investigation for Prentice? He’s not and has never been an actual victim. It was stopped before he became one I.e. A hack being carried out for $$$.

              The status of the investigation and the progress of it is known to only a tight group of people. None of the people are political bloggers, bloggers, beltway aficionados or Blomfield or anyone. I have respected due process. Notably, demonstrably and provably there have been attacks to smear and silence since Day One. I almost enjoy them now.

              I have never spoken privately or ever in real life to Prentice or anyone from that group. It was quite hard for me when they ditched me like yesterday’s news when a particular issue got too hot for them. Doesn’t matter to me. It has never involved them and never will.

              There’s been this familiar feel to things all year. What people are doing themselves? They accuse me of doing.

            • Mike C

               /  16th November 2015

              @BenR

              You don’t have to defend yourself here 🙂

              Most of the commenter’s in here are good people who have no hidden agenda towards you.

              If I was your Parent … I would be ever so proud of you for withstanding a truckload of shit that no-one your age should have to.

              Take a deep breath … and recognize that you are safe here in Georges Blog.

            • “Notably, demonstrably and provably there have been attacks to smear and silence since Day One. I almost enjoy them now.”

              It’s quite funny really. The more they try the more they show themselves up as deluded fools with an agenda (with more than a touch of paranoia).

            • THUNDERBIRD 4

               /  16th November 2015

              @ Ben. “they ditched me like yesterdays news” well my boy that is no surprise at all. they extracted what they wanted from you, found it could not further their agenda, so you were no longer needed.

            • DaveG

               /  16th November 2015

              YOU CLAIM. There is yet to be proof.

      • Budgieboy

         /  16th November 2015

        Interesting observation 4077. I’ve watched this place grow quite a bit in recent months and have to admit I wondered if some kind of deliberate sabotage might be on the cards. Just a feeling that some elements wouldn’t like what Pete has put together here and might come in and try to wreck it.

        Just to be clear, that’s not a comment I make because Ben R turned up yesterday it just something I’ve been wary of happening.

  3. 4077th

     /  16th November 2015

    I haven’t been here long and have been orphaned from WO after many years but what I thought was a fairly safe place seems to be more conspiracies and an uneasy feeling I get that it’s also been infiltrated by people with hidden agenda’s. I don’t really know who is genuine and who is not. I’m happy to at least be aware that not is all as it seems but recently this seems to have escalated. I like what you do here PG but my feelings of unease are usually correct. What unfolded yesterday really did bring out the worst in some people with infighting and personal slurs. After observing WO for many years as mentioned I was surprised about the paid hit jobs and that got me thinking that perhaps the followers were being used to magnify the issue by becoming useful idiots for the “greater good”. My instincts tell me that from time to time wannabe puppet masters appear here (not necessarily Ben) posing as contributors to deliberately skew the narrative or send us in a particular direction. I wouldn’t like to think there was a certain deliberate plan to undermine this place from within. It’s bad enough that a lot of innocent people got played by WO but for it to happen here using the same tactics is pretty poor form and not just politics. I’m going to stand and watch for a while until I see what transpires.

    • Ben Rachinger

       /  16th November 2015

      I have never commented here until yesterday. Ever.

      It’s not for me to speak to your disquiet though I am very pleased you are noticing the same tactics at play as a WO relic. For sure I can tell you who the puppet masters are but as this isn’t my blog, I don’t and can’t know what legal proceedings effect all parties here.

      That is the source of your disquiet. You can feel something massive has been going on and it’s going to reach a breaking point in the foreseeable future.

      Thanks for having me and not blocking me out Mr George. Cheers.

      • 4077th

         /  16th November 2015

        Throughout my life I have always taken people at face value and in some cases to my detriment. My life experience so far has taught me that with age comes cynicism and caution. I am prepared to accept you for who you say you are but you will understand that will include my cautiousness and I’ll remain that way until proven otherwise. Cheers!

    • “My instincts tell me that from time to time wannabe puppet masters appear here (not necessarily Ben) posing as contributors to deliberately skew the narrative or send us in a particular direction.”

      Go with your instinct on this.

    • Mike C

       /  16th November 2015

      @4077th

      You have absolutely hit the nail on the head with your observations … especially with your use of the word “infiltrated” 🙂

      I too, have felt the same sense of “unease” about some of the people who comment in here … and your gut instinct has been telling you exactly the same thing as my gut has also been telling me for more than a month now.

      It would not surprise me at all if a few people were trying to destroy this blog from the inside out.

    • Kevin

       /  16th November 2015

      Speaking for myself people can read what I write here and what I write on WO and see there’s no difference.

      And as they say, names change but personalities remain the same.

    • That’s an interesting statement there 4077….. I remain the same Dave_1924/Dave1924 I have always been…..

      • 4077th

         /  16th November 2015

        As do I and remain the same 4077th as I have been for many years. I’m happy to stand by my name and comments new and old though over on “a blog” I may have been steered by a certain influence before I understood the real intentions of the topic and for that I probably am guilty of following the narrative. These days I have far greater situational awareness.

  4. Ray

     /  16th November 2015

    Ben is obviously a young guy with problems
    I still think he is worth listening too and as he has some inside knowledge worth our time
    Quite interesting who was trying to shut him up and throw doubt on his statements, worth examining them and their motives
    And Ben if you are reading this look after yourself and keep safe

    • Mike C

       /  16th November 2015

      @Ray

      BenR doesn’t seem troubled at all to me … judging by his comments in here over the past 24 hours 🙂

      • DaveG

         /  16th November 2015

        Seriously MikeC, i suggest you go back and look at Bens issues, and why he posted the pics of Miss J Williams for a start, the kid has had (and still has in my opinion) major issues, and that is just the start. He really needs to back away from the internet for 5 years, move overseas and start afresh. Things like the rage from his now cancelled Twitter account, ranting he was going to out everyone, there was evidence of serious issues, and like others i had serious concerns for his well-being. The major players in the blogesphere, Slater, Prentice, Tiso, PeteG can all look after themselves quite well, Ben isint in their league, yet tries to turn tables on them and mix it with Tony Latino, Matthew Bloomfield, Toresen and Thompson, and then claims of Rawshark……..

        • Mike C

           /  16th November 2015

          @DaveG

          And “Speaking of Seriously” … you seem to have conveniently forgotten that you said a week or so ago … that you would never come back here again 🙂

          You talk out of both sides of your arse. LOL.

          Stop making threats and trying to discredit the good people in here.

          • DaveG

             /  16th November 2015

            Says the one who misunderstands and abuses others, ah, Tea Leaves!! I said i was out of the discussions, the ones where everyone piles in on Slater and WO, its childish to go on and on, just because to a fair few of you he banned you, Mike/Michelle?? The Issues of Ben remain, he has not once said what was in the video he posted on WO, if indeed there was a trojan horse, or why he turned dirty on Miss J Williams. The list goes on.

            Oh, and what threats Mike, please find one threat i have made on here, or on WO, or to quote you, is that you talking out both sides of your arse?

    • Hel

       /  17th November 2015

      Sorry but Rachinger is perfectly safe. Slater doesn’t know the “88’s” it’s all part of his sick fantasy played out in his own mind. He no more could arrange a hit on someone than Pete of this site!! Rachinger has run around like a paranoid fool as Slater has done what he always does, screwed with the head of someone around him.

      • jamie

         /  17th November 2015

        I think ‘look after yourself and keep safe’ can be interpreted a little more broadly than ‘watch out for murderous gangsters’, don’t you?

        • Hel

           /  17th November 2015

          I was referring to Rachinger’s endless commentary about how he felt physically threatened by Slater and others. Nothing will happen.

          He should worry more about the mental state Slater can turn others into and stay well away.

  5. Guest

     /  16th November 2015

    @DaveG
    I’ve been anticipating your contribution at https://yournz.org/2015/11/16/slater-and-cook-versus-ex-cop-and-security-company-boss/ …your silence is deafening.

  6. Ben Rachinger

     /  16th November 2015

    Should I reply to him? Everything he’s said is a lie. It’s obvious to me but to others?

    Ok.

    1. I didn’t post the pics of JW – Lauda Finem did. Who they are, why they did that A DAY AFTER MY STORY HIT NATIONAL TELEVISION and their source will all come out in the wash. But don’t obfuscate. It was LF. Not I.

    2. I’ve had the same single Twitter account since 2009. You can see that by looking at left hand side of my Twitter profile on a desktop computer. My handle has changed but that’s just the name. The account, followers, tweets etc all remain the same. This is very basic stuff.

    3. Never met Torenson and Thompson. LF, in their repeated and ongoing defamatory posts, like to point to threads that exist solely in their minds. It’s sad and it’s VERY SAD WHAT THEY DID TO JESSICA WILLIAMS. Solely to discredit and smear me, they attempted to ruin a journalist’s life instead of be forthright about their own history with Slater.

    4. …. As you can see, my friend, lies don’t hold any water next to facts, You need to try harder.

    • Guest

       /  16th November 2015

      @Ben
      DaveG only pops up on this site when WO is feeling threatened. Every now and then we are even blessed with Sponge Bob’s (oops!), I mean Spanish Bride’s presence…that’s when you can be sure the paranoia has set in. She was here before, in fact…

      • DaveG

         /  16th November 2015

        Not true Guest, I had been commenting for a while, and had chatted to pete on WO at times before that. But the relentless Slater Hater messages gets monotomus, and its obvious a lot here are simply slater haters, i wont comment further on those posts.

        • Guest

           /  16th November 2015

          This is Slater hating…this is Slater and Aitken truth… comment pleeeease! https://yournz.org/2015/11/16/slater-and-cook-versus-ex-cop-and-security-company-boss/

        • jamie

           /  17th November 2015

          I have seen very few comments here (and no posts) that I would describe as hateful of Slater.

          I think the general sentiment is more that people have learned from experience not to trust anything he says, and there is an acknowledgement that he operates in a highly unethical and often hypocritical fashion.

          If people think it’s worth keeping an eye on his activities, given that he operates in the public sphere I don’t think that’s unwise at all.

          I don’t think any of that comes close to hatred though.

    • DaveG

       /  16th November 2015

      And what of all the deleted tweets Ben, what of them. You seem to have erased a huge part of your prior life from your existance. I do recall who you are, what you have said, the rants, a lot of people were worried about you Ben, myself included, then, POOF, gone for a few months. Whilst I appreciate the reply, its not believable, not given your past, and why so many blogs who are now against you. Should i contact Miss J Williams, see what she has to say, as most of the twittersphere did not blame LF, they laid the blame at your feet.

      Another way, LF and WO have been around for a fair while, as has the standard. I take an interest in WO’s work, LF’s work, and PeteG’s posts. I also very occasionally pop over to the stranded, but only after a comment from someone else to highlight a post or similar.

      They both have harsh things to say about you ben, particularly LF. Yet, they have never had a harsh word to say about thousands of others..or is it 100% coincidental?

      • jamie

         /  16th November 2015

        “they have never had a harsh word to say about thousands of others”

        Are you serious?

    • Loki

       /  17th November 2015

      Point 1.
      If you hadn’t shared the pics with Slater do you think LF would have got them?

      Slater showed everybody. That is what he does.
      Are you figuring it out yet?

      • DaveG

         /  17th November 2015

        Oh, I have figured out a lot Loki, a lot……. Hope the writing is going well, funny how Ben appears alongside you when the articles appear.

    • You are the reason why her photos ended up online. You participated in revenge porn. It was disgusting to send those photos to someone like Slater. You have regularly, repeatedly, and relentlessly attacked women online. Nobody has forgotten (despite you deleting your tweets) what you did to a bunch of women online over December 2014 and January and February of this year. For the sake of them – I’m not going to go into detail – as many of them are afraid of you and don’t want this coming up again. Your threats to doxx women, and the way you told at least half a dozen women you would contact their employers or pass on their home addresses or hack their phones for daring to discuss your behaviour toward women – says a lot about the type of person you are. Just know that we haven’t forgotten, and while you have a bunch of men who think the sun shines out of your ass – I don’t know any women who don’t think you’re a known creep. If you EVER want to change that perception – you can start by stopping your vicious and unrelenting attacks on the journalist whose photos you sent to Cameron Slater.

  7. Ben Rachinger

     /  16th November 2015

    As for a Trojan horse (assuming you mean a virus here), how does one do that? I hadn’t heard of that before.

    Again, more attempts to distract from the case by smearing or discrediting me. Your lines are tired. Very tired. You need more material.

    • jaspa

       /  17th November 2015

      “As for a Trojan horse (assuming you mean a virus here), how does one do that? I hadn’t heard of that before.”

      Yeah, pull the other one Ben. I count myself as lucky if I can log into my own computer and even I have heard of that. It’s also the first thing that comes up on google if you start typing t-r-o-j … And you claim to be part of Anonymous? This is why your credibility is so lacking.

      • Ben Rachinger

         /  17th November 2015

        You’re commenting on things you know nothing about.

        The videos Slater posted to his website are hosted on YouTube. To post them on his website, he went to YouTube… Got the address ‘URL’ and hyperlinked to it in his post. There is NO involvement of myself.

        A Trojan horse inside a video file is of course possible and relatively simple to do. But there was never any file sent to Slater.

        Also your timing? Slater and I started talking AFTER the hack.

        This has all been proven and is out there in the open. My credibility is lacking because you’ve believed lies and allowed powerful people to almost take the life of a whistleblower. But here I am. I haven’t had ONE SINGLE response here for clarity that I haven’t answered and made clear.

        New lines please. Good practice for later.

        • Loki

           /  17th November 2015

          Ben, you need to get a new hobby.
          You have based all your story on the few snippets of fact and truck loads of fantasy nonsense that slater shared with you in an attempt to make himself look powerful and as an attempt to groom you for purposes that aren’t fit to describe on a family blog 🙂
          Like Hager you have been sucked into his fevered fantasy world and believe it all because you want to.
          Consider yourself lucky you got out before getting pinned.
          A trip to Hawkes Bay to meet his mate Ludk would really have given you something to moan about and a very uncomfortable ride home.

          • Ben Rachinger

             /  17th November 2015

            You’re a very disgruntled ex insider with Whaleoil. I understand that hurts you and you’re very bitter about it. Don’t project your shortcomings and personality onto me. You don’t know me. I look forward to you revealing you identity “Loki”

            Your name says it all about you 😉

          • Ben Rachinger

             /  17th November 2015

            Also, your ongoing homophobic attacks against gay people or acts of gay love is quite horrendous. It’s 2015. Almost everyone has some fairly equal sort of rights now. There is nothing wrong with being LGBQTi nor with homosexual sex.

            It severely damages your narrative to talk like that. It also reveals you’re a fundamentalist Christian. Possibly from that same Exclusive sect?

            😉

            • Loki

               /  17th November 2015

              Bitter and disgruntled perfectly describes a hand full of us who helped your nemesis for many years.
              Not a Christian and not attempting to have a pop about his “other” activities.
              I just know how he will be popping eyeballs trying to narrow down who I am. And absolutely crapping himself that I might tell readers here what has really been going on with his little club.
              There is so much more and a whole lot less to the last decade.

            • Ben Rachinger

               /  17th November 2015

              Ok well that’s all true and understandable mate. Just, I’m no fantasist. I read a lot and very widely. NZ a small country. Have had beers with Jimmy Kirkpatrick over to hearing the rants of far left mongerers. Gasp, I spent time with heathen lefties and rabid righties.

              Your story is not my story. But you should be reasonably careful right? Any claims you make need to be able to be backed in in court with a sworn affidavit. If you have knowledge of criminal or unethical activity, I encourage you to consider doing this.

              Slater is not my nemesis. I saw what he wanted and I said No. It was also criminal so I had to report it. That’s all. This isn’t some feverish ‘take down Slater’ thing – he’s been unethical amongst many things. I don’t wish to be a person like that.

              People deserve to know the truth and what’s been going on Loki. You will know farrrrrrr more than I. Think about how to bridge that gap.

              Cheers.

            • Jeeves

               /  17th November 2015

              Although I’ve suggested that Slusk ‘come out’ – I wish to distance myself from any accusations of homophobia.
              I genuinely believe that as an openly gay man- he would be a much more balanced and palatable member of society.

        • jaspa

           /  17th November 2015

          Ben, I haven’t believed lies, because I haven’t believed anything yet.

          As for – “I haven’t had ONE SINGLE response here for clarity that I haven’t answered and made clear.”, could I refer you to my question on https://yournz.org/2015/11/15/whale-oil-jumping-the-rawshark/ which remains unanswered.

          In case you missed it – Is ____ the same _____ mentioned in your deleted post : “I was friends with a guy named ______ who has previously been in trouble/prison in NZ for various things. He’s a Maori activist and keen computing genius. The Police asked me to pass on any information _____ may have had as regards the identity of “Rawshark”. They also wanted proof of any other crimes that could be taking place.” ?

          A simple yes or no would suffice.

  8. Robby

     /  16th November 2015

    It’s all rather nasty really. What is blatantly obvious is a few participants in this thread, and the related ones, know more than what they are prepared to disclose at this stage. I am guessing this might have a lot to do with a court case that was mentioned in the Herald earlier this year, and hasn’t been mentioned since…..

    • Not prepared to disclose, able to disclose. That and other cases are under blanket suppression at this stage.

      • Robby

         /  16th November 2015

        I realise this Pete, and have no intention of making your job as a moderator any harder than it already is. 🙂

  9. Rex

     /  16th November 2015

    This blog should be Called:
    “Totally Obsessed with With Whale Oil.”

    You only have to look at the number of posts, and the people commenting here, the only posts people get rarked up about is WhaleOil.

    Otherwise nothing is happening here.

    • Guest

       /  16th November 2015

      So? What’s your point Rex?

    • Robby

       /  16th November 2015

      There is plenty happening here ‘Rex’. Which is why you came for a look, isn’t it?

      • Rex

         /  16th November 2015

        I disagree, I have been been looking for a couple of weeks.
        Every post that mentions Whale goes off, for whatever reason, that maybe.

        Every other post here gets a couple of comments.
        Have a look yourselves.

        • Robby

           /  16th November 2015

          “I disagree, I have been been looking for a couple of weeks.”
          Have you been commenting as well ‘Rex’, using a different name???
          If people could comment freely on WO, they would probably do it there.

    • Did you notice that this post was about Ben Rachinger Rex?

      Ben seems to have rarked up a lot of commenting – from people who seem totally obsessed with trying to discredit him and to make him talk.

      I suspect they are worried about what he might talk about other than their diversionary attacks. What do you think?

      • traveller

         /  17th November 2015

        Cambelt suck ups are happy not to mention their fuhrer’s stifling of free speech over his alleged hack hire. Since DP, hapless team Cambelt has lost every lineout, every scrum, hasn’t been given a single penalty, let alone scored a single try against Team Hagerdottie😏
        How did Slater’s famous quote go again…oh yeah.
        “I play politics like Fijians play rugby. My role is smashing your face into the ground.”
        Yeah right.

  10. Rex

     /  16th November 2015

    No, not ever commented ever before, this maybe my final one, I just thought you people maybe have to look in the mirror, with the amount of slagging off, of Whale.

    Why not start up some new conversations of your own?

    kia ora

    • Robby

       /  16th November 2015

      Koretake tiraumoko kau raho 😉

      • Robby

         /  16th November 2015

        Haere ra

      • What does that mean Robby? None of the translations I can find make any sense…

        • Robby

           /  17th November 2015

          Do it a word at a time Dave, Pete will growl me if I do it for you here 😉

          • I translated the first word and got the flavour…..

            • Robby

               /  17th November 2015

              The second one is more elusive, it is local language and means ‘an illegitimate child’ LOL ‘Kau’ means ‘no’, and ‘Raho’ is genitalia. It’s cool to korero (unless you end a paragraph with a greeting, that is….) 😉

  11. Jeeves

     /  17th November 2015

    Actually, PG, this thread / blog may yet prove to be the best vehicle for Ben R to express himself in a relatively safe environment.
    More has been revealed through him, through these few threads, and of course some others…about the whole WO/DirtyP saga than I would have expected….
    It’s beginning to look pretty interesting indeed.

    So thank you both (and Loki).

  12. Gweg Pwesland

     /  17th November 2015

    I love to suck off goats !