Ng versus Rachinger and Slater

Keith Ng has posted at Public Address: The Whaledump Saga: Scooby-Doo Edition

There are details in this of Ben Rachinger’s communications with Cameron Slater related to the alleged payment to hack The Standard and the publication of photos of a journalist.

It begins:

On 2 October 2014, the Police raided Nicky Hager’s home as part of Operation Oracle – the hunt for Rawshark. During the search, Detective Jason Abbot found a piece of paper and passed it to Detective Joseph Teo. “We considered [the document] was of interest to the investigation because of information we had already obtained”, Teo said in his affidavit.

That piece of paper was seized and designated NH025.

I first got in touch with Ben Rachinger in February this year, when he first started dropping docs publicly, but I didn’t meet him in person until May, several weeks before his story aired on The Nation.

Contrary to the conspiracy theorists, Ben’s story wasn’t ignored by the MSM. There was a pretty mad dash initially to get his story, but it all happened under the radar as journos tried to scoop each other.

At least that’s why it was under the radar at first. As Ben’s story unfurled, it became increasingly fantastic: He was whistleblower, and hacker, and undercover agent for the Police, with sources at the highest level of government. Those who chased the story were wary as hell, and Ben had a tendency of turning on journalists who questioned his story, lumping them into a media conspiracy against him.

But for all the reasons not to believe Ben, he had hard evidence to back him up: Screenshots of messages and emails between him and Slater. And when The Nation ran their story, they did it after confirming that Ben really did have a relationship with the Police. His evidence could not be the work of a garden variety fantasist. This was either a truly spectacular hoax, with elaborate planning, screeds of details, and willing participation by Slater… or it was true.

I’ll let Ng’s post address the validity of most of what it addresses. It appears to me at a quick read that both Slater and Rachinger may have been partly correct about payments from Slater to Rachinger, but neither revealed the whole truth as far as I can remember.

There are two things in this particularly pertinent to Your NZ.

In the weekend Ben started commenting here. He is free to speak on Ng’s allegations here (as anyone is free to speak here). He also might like to revisit some of what he has said here lately.

FYI his current social engineering target is @PeteDGeorgeyournz.org/2015/11/15/wha… see full comments section @HORansome@keith_ng@gtiso

I lost count at 12 demonstrable lies by Ben Rachinger on that thread. @PeteDGeorge@HORansome@keith_ng@gtiso

Someone should screenshot BRs comments for posterity. Very clear evidence of SE tactics used on @PeteDGeorge@HORansome@keith_ng@gtiso

See the way he builds @PeteDGeorge up with tacit approval/friendly comments? He literally & visibly grooms Pete @HORansome@keith_ng@gtiso

Endarken mistakes my allowing people to speak as some sort of grooming. And screenshots won’t be necessary, unless I am legally required to remove comments they remain on the record.

Ben is also free to comment on what endarken has tweeted. Endarken is also free to substantiate their allegations.

The second thing of current interest here is this from Ng:

In the Threema logs, Slater says:

06 Jan- 15 17:43:44 – CS: I have a black phone…no cops have been near it

The upshot is that the photos which appeared on that blog are photos of Slater’s Blackphone, showing the conversation where Ben sent those photos to Slater. Ben’s previous claims that those photos were hacked from his phone is a lie. He sent them. And unless Slater wants to claim that his “highly secure” and remotely wipable phone was stolen, unlocked, photographed then put back, it’s also clear that Slater actively participated in that release.

And he adds in comments:

Those pictures were *sent* by Rachinger to Slater, and by Slater (directly or indirectly) to the other blog.

To “the other blog”. That’s the blog that has been the subject of much discussion here over the last day.

Elsewhere on the Internet this appeared in a tweet.

Knew you’d slag off Slater @PeteDGeorge, serious defamation?

Irony and hypocrisy abounds, as usual.

I hope Keith reads over what has happened here yesterday. Having spoken truth to powerless he may be subjected to something similar. It’s what [Deleted as per court order] and associates keep referring to as a ‘fuck over’.  After which they accuse their target of everything they have done themselves.

But I think things may be catching up with them. Too many lies. Too many fuck overs. Sooner or later forces of those prepared and willing to stand up to them will combine against them.

UPDATE: It takes a bit of wading through, for a summary of parts of it see Shorter Ng/Rachinger/Slater/Key at Dim Post.

Danyl makes a pertinent point:

One of the strangest things about the WhaleOil phenomenon is that someone who was pretty obviously a troubled fantasist briefly became one of the most powerful people in the country by drawing a lot of our most senior political and media leaders into his fantasies.

And a comment there: Bonus content via Keith Ng: https://twitter.com/keith_ng/status/666446685950705666

203 Comments

  1. Ben Rachinger

     /  18th November 2015

    Thanks for offering right of reply. I’ll take it sometime today. Happy to answer all queries and also break down the Ng piece.

    I keep thinking they’ll have more! But they don’t. They never cover everything. Always from within their own bubble and with their own motives.

    There’s obviously a reason this is all coming to a head with the Ng piece, Suzette Dawson (@endarken) space cadet fantasies about grooming (lol that’s your role Dawson) and LF/MS/CS related entities commenting here.

    I did provoke a shit storm by my very presence and clear mind. I’m really happy all these people are afraid of me being allowed to speak or speaking clearly. You can like me or hate me – but the truth is still yet to come out.

    Why would LF/CS/MS related entities be going this hard? Did Keith Ng collaborate with Slater on his piece? Or just with Rangi Kemara and Jessica Williams? Time will tell – none of those people are victims whatsoever.

    Have a great morning.

  2. Ben Rachinger

     /  18th November 2015

    His comments saying I sent those pictures are actionable FYI. He cannot prove that therefore he is defaming me. His proof is innuendo and bluster. Filling in gaps. In the comments of the piece, there is a commenter named Gary Godard. He is Williams partner.

    Other commenters include David Farrar as the first commenter – nice company you keep Keith. Russell Brown has a few comments and, as with Keith, utters actionable statements.

    Keith leaves out one very important part from the Threema log….

    Wherein Slater says it is Chris Trotter who told him about the plot to kill him and the conspirators identities. Not me.

    Nice covering your Leftie mates Ng. A very vacuous and shallow piece of fluff from the ‘On Point’ man XD 🙂

  3. Seems to me like a clear case of revenge porn I think you are spinning a web Ben.

  4. Loki

     /  18th November 2015

    Hard to decide who comes out of this looking worse.
    Slater for being a mug for getting ripped off by Rachinger AND sharing the porny pics that Rachinger sent him.
    Or Rachinger for sending the porny pics to Slater.
    Could be a photo finish to decide who is the biggest sleaze bag but Slater wins the prize for biggest idiot.
    When Bomber Bradbury writes a post that oozes pity for Slater you know a new level of pathetic has been reached.
    He is alone in a stormy sea of public ridicule now.

  5. Ben Rachinger

     /  18th November 2015

    Bullshit Loki. Bullshit. I notice you’ve never mentione [Deleted names – PG]

    Don’t think I forgot about your involvement 😉 Nor have the Police. I am respecting due process here and have been for a long time. I positively look forward to the day the truth comes out XD

    • Mike C

       /  18th November 2015

      @BenR

      Who is [Deleted name – PG]

      Sounds like one of the characters from the Munsters TV Series. LOL 🙂

      • Ben Rachinger

         /  18th November 2015

        [Deleted – PG] What took place in those conversations is subject to legal proceedings so I can’t comment on what was talked about. Certainly nothing too far from what has already been alleged.

        Loki is conspicuous by their leaving out [Deleted name – PG]. Who was a massive funder and friend to Slater through last year. A massive funder.

        • Jeeves

           /  18th November 2015

          Ben- can you please clarify the catch-all you have used a few times ..”subject to legal proceedings”..

          If you mean that the police are investigating, well they are not ‘legal proceedings’, and you are free to say whatever you want, – subject to the normal laws of defamation, libel, and copyright.

          If you are suggesting that you are restrained from commenting because these matters are before the courts, or sub judice, then the case must be actively before the court- and you would face contempt charges.

          I suspect either or neither- but if you just don’t want to say something, well at least say that- rather than going quasi-legal. It doesn’t stack up.

          • Ben Rachinger

             /  18th November 2015

            I can’t comment on anything related to Lauda Finem. At all. That includes the pics. I cannot be any more upfront than that,

            Try to imagine why LF socks have been so prolific in here and posted there hit piece in Mike C last night,

            As for the Slater case, that’s in front of Crown Law right now I.e. The Police did NOT tell me to fuck off and have even sent it to Crown Law. They’re already pissed I did The Nation. Not keen to piss them off again. Thanks.

            • Loki

               /  18th November 2015

              Bullshit.

            • Ben Rachinger

               /  18th November 2015

              You’re bullshit. We already covered your credibility. You refuse to reveal your identity. To any discerning viewer that’s just no cricket. So…. Destroy my cred. Reveal yourself 😉

              Except you won’t and we both know why “boy”.

              Lol.

    • Loki

       /  18th November 2015

      I have never met or communicated in any way with any of them Ben.
      As to my involvement!
      You don’t have a clue who I am.
      You know the cops will not be doing anything because other than you ripping Slater off it will be hard to find anything actionable in the web of nonsense you sold to the mouth breathing moron.
      But sending out JW’s pics is the absolute worst. You know you did, I know you did and so do a few others that the idiot Slater told.

      • Ben Rachinger

         /  18th November 2015

        What I know and what you know aren’t going to meet on the bridge of your fantasies, Loki. I wondered how long until Lentino popped up. Poor little guy. I guess the IRD audit of his company and its subsequent sale has embittered him somewhat.

        Reveal your identity. You have zero credibility until you do. Or are you scared of Slater, [Deleted as per court order] and LF? Come on. You like to talk big talk. Let’s see some actions 🙂

        • Loki

           /  18th November 2015

          No.
          Not TL
          Lentino is sat at home waiting for the lung cancer to finish him off.
          None of us are surprised he pulled the pin on Freed.
          Any normal person exposed to Slater (and the low rent dummies he surrounds himself with these days) for an hour or more would soon realise he is a muppet.
          When are you going to publicly apologise to JW for sending Slater those pics?

          • I have no idea who JW is, but anyone who sends naked pix of themselves to anyone is an idiot. Ed Snowden told us; there is no such thing as privacy anymore.

            • DaveG

               /  24th November 2015

              JW Miss Jessica Williams – Reporter. and Ben has never ever even shown any remorse for distributing those pictures, he just deflects the blame to others, not admitting his role.

            • I think he claimed he can’t say anything but I think some acknowledgement at least that it was out of order would be appropriate and might calm down the outrage (a little).
              .

            • Ben Rachinger

               /  24th November 2015

              I’ve already acknowledged to JW as much as I can say. I don’t see that relitigating it in public for white knights helps her. She can raise the issue in public as she sees fit.

              Insofar as Slater received the pictures and forwarded them to Lauda Finem?

              That’s a whole basket of can’t comment. For obvious and very good reasons. A lot of people have been up to some very dodgy stuff. In some cases, criminal.

              What I’m supposed to have done is unethical but not illegal. What Slater has allegedly done?

              That’s definitely criminal 🙂

              Thanks

            • DaveG

               /  24th November 2015

              Ben, STOP trying to deflect, you passed or gave the pics to others, and there is NO evidance they went from WO to LF.

              Its like a car theif saying they only stole it and parked it up, and the cops caught another person driving it, and its all their fault.

            • Ben Rachinger

               /  24th November 2015

              There’s plenty of evidence. Blackphone in pictures. Slaters admitted working with LF. The timing of the “hit” just after The Nation piece on the story.

              One day your noble hero, Cameron Slater, will face his past and have others plan his future. No amount of filibustering from you is going to stop that.

              Seems some people think that because it will be ME and Blomfield that, separately, will be responsible for smashing Slaters network and exposing his enablers, funders and media helpers…..

              That we should be knights in shining armour. That’s not how it works. Slater knows what he’s done.

              As I said… I feel sorry for him.

              Goodnight “DaveG” 😉

            • Guest

               /  24th November 2015

              @BenR

              I’m looking forward to your e-book…sounds a whole lot more interesting than “the booklet” that’s for sure 🙂

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  24th November 2015

              @DaveG, to make the blindingly obvious even to you, point:

              If Slater hadn’t contrived to publish the pics a) why would any harm have been done to JW, and b) who would have known anything about it?

              And if Slater didn’t publish the pics a) who did and how, and b) why slag off Ben about it?

        • Mike C

           /  18th November 2015

          @BenR

          How did Lentino make his millions in the first place ???

          I always thought there was something a bit kind of “Mafiosa” about him. LOL.

          Does Lentino still own those helicopters … or has his wealth shrunk considerably over the past year or so ???

          • Loki

             /  18th November 2015

            His Wealth hasn’t shrunk. The poor prick is ill.
            He has sold off and shut down a lot of stuff to enjoy whatever time he has left.
            Slater introduced Ben while Ben was feeding him the big con.
            Lentinos people saw through Ben immediately and cut him out. Hence the spite.
            The game is up. You have been caught. While half the country will be cheering the fact you made a complete fool of Slater EVERYBODY will be disgusted with your sending the JW pics around the place

            • Ben Rachinger

               /  18th November 2015

              You just gave yourself away. Lol.

            • Kevin

               /  18th November 2015

              Troll.

            • DaveG

               /  18th November 2015

              It just gets better and better. Yesterday a lot were down down voting and doubting my disbelief of anything Ben R says. Today more and more are saying the same thing, Ben, your attempted social engineering here is not working, too many stories, too many snippets coming out throwing your version into disrepute. My belief is you are only here to feather your own story, your own little blog did not gather any interest, “the little boy cried wolf too often and no one listens” so now your here.

              I would be interested to hear far more from Loki, from Miz J Williams, from Slater, from Ng and so many more, but whatever they say is at odds with what you say Ben, it is almost a re run of your melt down a while ago, the one Ng refers too. Your far from Stupid Ben, but they say the biggest mistake Hitler made was fighting too many enemies at once, he was surrounded in battle and lost.

            • Ben Rachinger

               /  18th November 2015

              We will see if there’s too many enemies 😉 I’ve been preparing for you all for a long time. Pretty cruisy at the moment. You won’t rattle me and get me raging like you used to.

              Do I call you Cam or Juana? Or this Pete Belt? You would have been warned by the Police not to contact me so it’s been a bit…. Revealing that you’ve had your socks on Twitter troll me and now your socks here troll me.

              You’re so frightened. Why don’t you just admit what you did and deal with it? I mean, it’s all going to come out one way or another. Probably best if you control when that happens. Cos for sure you’re just digging yourself a hole here.

              I feel sorry for you and I always did.

            • DaveG

               /  18th November 2015

              Totally laughable Ben, and I have addressed your foolish notion im Cam/Juana or Pete B elsewhere. But for the record, i have not ever met one of them personally, sure a few emails about a Sub, a T Shirt, but thats about that. I have never taken an instruction from them, or asked them to do anything. But again Ben, read some history, thinking i am one of them, is exactly the “Jumping at Shadows” that started the downfall of Hitler. Strike, strike, strike. The one thing with the truth Ben, is you dont have to remember what you said yesterday, last week, last month, or last year – its always there. You don’t have to keep loking over your shoulder and keep jumping at shadows, or defending, defending defending. Im comfortable in my skin, i know who i am, i know what i did last year etc, but do you really know what you actually did Ben, V what you say you did?

    • Hel

       /  18th November 2015

      Ben if you really had a case against Slater the first thing the Cops would have told you was to shut your giant sloppy gob.
      Instead you’ve ruined all the evidence you have collected of Slater’s silliness, poo fingered poor old Rangi and wasted police time directing them to him and oh yes turned all the media against you by participating in revenge porn against one of their own.
      Well done son. You might have just surpassed Slater in stupidity.

      • Ben Rachinger

         /  18th November 2015

        You’re a Slater acolyte or sock. The cops did and I have. I hinted at things but left the juice out. Poor Rangi? Lol. Wasted Police time? Lol. Turned all the media against me because of _____? Hugest Lol of all.

        You need to try harder. I’m not rattled at all. Excited now your team has shown its colours and your fear. I’d be scared too if I was involved in criminal activity and…

        In one of the emails that is the paper trail, Farrar and Hooton talk about wanting access to The Standard…. Nothing to do with me or anything I’ve ever said.

        Now you see? You need to try harder. All involved are going down. For myself I’m happy to go down with the likes of [Names deleted – PG] and the unnamed funder if that’s what it takes to shine this level of sunlight.

        I am not surprised all are arrayed against me. This is what happens when Hager doesn’t expose MSM journos working with Slater and the PM, and on the other side what happens when what Hager exposed continues to occur AS I HAVE SHOWN.

        Roflllllllll. I thought you all were much smarter than you ended up being. I’ve been so worried about my safety and I should never have bothered. You couldn’t navigate yourself out of bed let alone to the truth.

        • Ben, seriously. Cut the tirade against JW. I don’t particularly care for whether you managed to rip off Cameron Slater. As far as I’m concerned that was a scam of Nigerian proportions (with due apologies to actual Nigerians), and both parties deserved as much as they got in that regard. But there is absolutely no excuse for your behaviour towards JW or your ongoing harassment and bile towards her. Cut it out.

          • Kevin

             /  18th November 2015

            At the end of the day he’s just an attention-seeking internet troll who managed to suck a few people in. No bias btw – if he had conned Prentice instead of Slater my opinion would still be the same.

          • Ben Rachinger

             /  18th November 2015

            Dude. I am allowed to prove and show she manipulated me, that she doxed QoT to me as part of her machinations, that she’s lied about me and kept going on and on since before any of this pictures mess came out, she refused to out me as her Hager raid source at my request (which FYI would have squashed everything that has come since, I’m 100% sure) and never went after LF and, allegedly, Slater for posting her pics.

            I realise it’s convenient to hate on the brown, non-partisan geek bro that is me but save yourself some breathing room Hamish. What you don’t know, you don’t know. And I know Slater was sharing caps and shots. Unless you’ve seen his Threema LOGS (both Y372J7X7 and 6CS8V295) you should refrain from commenting on shit you don’t understand.

            I’m not apologising for anything to anyone until it’s all out on the table. Legal proceedings prevent that but I can defeat every smear you come with.

            Your inside knowledge is neither inside nor knowledge.

            Thanks Hamish 🙂

            • Kevin

               /  18th November 2015

              “I realise it’s convenient to hate on the brown, non-partisan geek bro that is me but save yourself some breathing room Hamish. What you don’t know, you don’t know. And I know Slater was sharing caps and shots. Unless you’ve seen his Threema LOGS (both Y372J7X7 and 6CS8V295) you should refrain from commenting on shit you don’t understand.”

              Are you on drugs?

            • DaveG

               /  18th November 2015

              Ben, you want to be the master manipulator, but you failed, and had a massive melt down, your stories dont add up at all, nothing fits together, and everyone else is wrong in your opinion. Join the dots. Unless I see actual PROOF, and some other bloggers / Journo’s backing your multiple stories up, and not the doctored docs, or your spin, its not believable Ben. Oh, and contrary to your foolish notion im Cam/Juana/Pete, no I’m not, thats laughable. But, i have watched you spin stories for a fair while.

            • Conspiratoor

               /  18th November 2015

              Great stuff. The stuff conspiracies are made of DaveG. Let me spin you another one. I am starting to think Ben and Loki see the same face in the mirror and are putting on this little charade for god knows why. We know Benno likes to pay elaborate games and if he is indeed the same measured Ben we saw a couple of days ago he seems to be morphing into ranty Ben now.
              Lending weight to my theory is my good friend Travis P has no idea who Loki is and he spent some time in the inner sanctum. Go figure 😉

            • Loki

               /  18th November 2015

              Travis knows.

            • DaveG

               /  18th November 2015

              Oh indeed, I have. Theory, Loki is one of the scorned ones that Slater rightly exposed, possibly working with Bent Ratsinger to do as much damage to WO as possible. But I’m not going to suggest a name until I Can be sure I’m correct,

            • Outing identities is generally a no no on blogs.

            • DaveG

               /  18th November 2015

              @peteG. Sorry Pete, to clarify, I might have a few notions / ideas, but I wouldn’t state any names, learnt that from you. Cheers.

            • Ratty

               /  18th November 2015

              Dude.. JW is irrelevant in this … dont let it consume you…just stick to the narrative and ignore the baiting..

            • graham

               /  18th November 2015

              “Outing identities is generally a no no on blogs.”

              Agreed, so it was a shame when you did exactly that:

              https://yournz.org/2015/06/15/manolo-pedreschi-recidivist-liar-and-blog-bully/

            • Old Kiwiblog comments are still unavailable graham. If DPF gets around to releasing them again I’ll follow up on that. I’m sure you’ll remember.

              Funny how you are so particilar about things like that but you don’t care about all the lying and smearing that goes on at Kiwiblog, because few are prepared to stand up to it.

    • Hel

       /  18th November 2015

      Respecting due process does not equate to gobbing off all over the Internet and dumping threemas with Keith Ng prior to the Cops even completing their investigation.

  6. Quite interesting sitting back from a distance watching all this unfold.

    • Budgieboy

       /  18th November 2015

      Yeah it is Trav, suspect you’ve got some real insights of your own on all this…

      God knows where (or how) it’s all going to end.

      • steveremmington

         /  18th November 2015

        I just wish it was like the movies where the bad guys dress in black and the good guys in white.

        I have no idea who I should be cheering for!

        • MaureenW

           /  18th November 2015

          They all stink . Hence the repeated lies, Internet bullying and generally stupid behaviour that follows along with this story.

        • jamie

           /  18th November 2015

          Like the old-time movies, steve! Think of this more like “The Wire”. Everyone is up to something, no-one is totally innocent, and everyone sees themselves as just doing what they have to do. 🙂

      • I look at this way: not my clowns, not my circus. The whole game whichever party you sympathize with is a rotten clusterfuck. If you could imagine a single portaloo at a Willie Nelson concert, that might give an indication as to the kind of mess politics and political blogs have become. Both sides try to ratfuck each other, both sides play the victim, both sides drown in hypocrisy, and both sides indulge in schadenfreude. It’s been quite refreshing and most certainly refreshing stepping back and observing from afar from a neutral point of view in the last 12 months. There’s only 2 things I haven’t worked out yet, whether the pet monkey is busking for his dinner yet, and who the hell is Loki?

        • steveremmington

           /  18th November 2015

          Hey Trav. Long time no see. More importantly how’s the hunting going?

          • Bloody good thanks Steve, getting out and about. Did a trip to molesworth station for the spring goose hunt last month, good times 😉

            • SteveRemmington

               /  19th November 2015

              Yeah saw the vid through the hunt fish forum. Looked like a mammoth trip. Will drop you a note through that forum to say gidday.

        • Loki

           /  18th November 2015

          You are Loki
          We are Loki
          Who is Loki?

        • You leaving Travis was the beginning of a downward spiral.. Hope the hunting is treating you well…..

          • Travis knows? I have my suspicions now. (could still be wrong) I Actually asked someone else if it was them, who thought it was me! I find it bemusing I supposedly know considering I’ve been off the radar for quite some time now.

          • Yep it sure turned to shit when I left dave, but to be fair it was already on a steep trajectory downwards. Was that you that messaged me on google chat? if so, apologies for not responding. I rarely use that platform now and completely forgot.

            • Not me on Google chat T….. don’t use … eliminates me as Loki ; )

            • DaveG

               /  18th November 2015

              Yes, but im trying to keep my private 🙂 no issues with you knowing who I am Trav, we can trust the genuine people in life. Do hope your well.

            • Ben Rachinger

               /  18th November 2015

              Grease harder. I’m sure you can do it if you try enough.

            • I know who you are now, no worries mate, hope life is treating you well. Be good to catch up for an ale on the next excursion 😉

    • Salacious P Crumb

       /  18th November 2015

      I was hoping to see you around Travdog. Would love to hear more from you.

    • DaveG

       /  18th November 2015

      Long time Trav, good to hear from you, miss your comments and banter.

      • Not everyone agrees with you Dave lol. Good to see my hate club still out there, the blogosphere hasn’t changed a bit haha

        • DaveG

           /  18th November 2015

          I dont ever recall a hate club Travis, you were always pretty popular, and fair. Hope the family and career etc are all going well –

          • No I mean the downvotes on your comment, probably just Halligan and her multiple personalities.

            • Ben Rachinger

               /  18th November 2015

              You have no credibility. Your very words have said you back LFs action against her.

              Scum.

            • Guest

               /  18th November 2015

              Yes, Ben. Dave G is so pro WO on this site. Travis must still favour Slater and Belt.

            • DaveG

               /  18th November 2015

              Dont get too carried away Guest, i make no secret of the fact i have supported WO, and I also have stated previously, i like PeteG’s blog.

            • MaureenW

               /  18th November 2015

              This entire thread has generated no new information, seems that the same people who throw poo at each other on Twitter have moved here. sigh.

            • Hi Ben, nice to meet you too. Your opinion is irrelevant to me. LF has only delved deeper (I have boundaries) into what I had already done 12 months ago. I stated what was quite clearly obvious back then with the multiple account/personality trolling, with the obvious evidence of missing wires and loose screws. I don’t condone dragging families and etc into the fray, it should be well and truly off limits. Having said that, her comments and obsession with me and all things whaleoil, the ‘nutjobs’ title of the post surely fits. And I’m not the only person that rarely visits this blog as a result.

              From what I’ve been reading in the last 24 hours, I really don’t think you’re in any position to be making comment on credibility.

            • Ben Rachinger

               /  18th November 2015

              Then I’m lucky it’s not a former whaleoil mod in charge of my future 😉

            • Mike C

               /  18th November 2015

              @Ben

              LOL 🙂

            • Guest

               /  18th November 2015

              @Travis
              You and your ilk never change. You’re no hero. You had a tanty because you were usurped by Belt. But you are still an oily, slimey git. Why is it that you, and Slater and Lusk make big talk about hunting? You must be lacking in the real qualities that maketh the man.
              Mike She has shown more courage in the past day than I can imagine…
              And Ben is raw and vulnerable and oh so bloody clever

            • I have no beef with you Ben, or anyone else. Hell, before today I’d never even heard of you. I just popped in to see what all the fuss was about after having it bought to my attention last night. Having had a very lean diet on blogs in the last 10-12 months only leaves me wondering upon return that knowing full well that getting into a pig pen leaves you covered in mud and shit and a happy pig, why you (or anyone else) get involved. The gutter is no place to be. Yet, both sides indulge in the same tactics to prove who is worse, ironic really.

            • Yes Guest, clearly I’m not a real man unless I sit around all day masturbating over the next blogging scandal. And speaking of tantrums, I notice you’re leaving 🙂

            • Will you leave that out of it here please. No call for it at all. Don’t bring past feuds into here.

            • Guest

               /  18th November 2015

              @PG
              You’ve lost control of your blog. Your reference to Jonah in the social media post is disgraceful.
              I’m outta here. You people are sick.

            • Ben Rachinger

               /  18th November 2015

              That’s a smear on PG. Leave him out of your beef with me. Or else why say what you said?

            • Don’t let the door hit you in the arse on the way out, and take your tissues with you.

  7. I suppose if you stir water with a muddy bottom enough then no one gets to see clearly. Seems a lot of self serving stuff from all points of the spectrum over the last few weeks….

    Whether you like/dislike/loathe/hate Slater, he was still hacked by a person/persons unknown and the information used for a deeply political agenda. Couple it with Brashs emails being lifted with no prosecution ensuing, and you come back to the fact that hacking for political purposes seems to be no big deal to the Left the Right and everyone in between.

    • traveller

       /  18th November 2015

      Was I even vaguely on #TeamHager, #Rawshark, #LetDottiestayinthemansion, #FisherlovesDottie, #endjustifiesthemeans or simply a #sympatheticwatermuddier, #enemyofmyenemyismyfriend type I’d be wary of tendency to schadenfreude, the illusory but ever so tempting moral high ground and I’d be definitely be putting a cap on my public venting.

      A question that some might well be asking themselves soon is “was creating a Slater with literally nothing to lose worth it?”.

    • DaveG

       /  18th November 2015

      With a good filtration system, a microscope and time, the murky waters become clear, and history assists. The player / s in this episode don’t change their modus operandi much.

  8. Loki

     /  18th November 2015

    Go on then champ. Who am I.
    And a Slater sock? Hilarious. He will be raging impotently trying to figure out who from the legion of people he has fucked over I am.
    You have been caught. Just apologise and slither off. Boy.

    • Ben Rachinger

       /  18th November 2015

      You never revealed anything that isn’t common knowledge. You’ve tried hard to discredit me and speak against me. You simultaneously hate on gay people and stand up for a woman against men. Your persona management skills are quite shit really.

      You have NO credibility. Nothing you’ve said is from an insider of Slaters.

      I noted your need to discredit and attack. I watched you land in this blog and your commenting for aggggges before I commented here to defend Mr George against attacks on his credibility by WO. You have NO idea who is facing serious legal action covered by suppression. You continually attack me and your position is, quite frankly, so easy to dismantle its hardly worth the time to respond to.

      But carry on. You reveal much more than you know by your actions 😉

      • Salacious P Crumb

         /  18th November 2015

        I’d wager most of us here hanker after Loki’s next post.

  9. @Pete George:

    Pete this would be interesting to get Mr Trotters response to don’t you think.

    Ben R above:
    “Keith leaves out one very important part from the Threema log….

    Wherein Slater says it is Chris Trotter who told him about the plot to kill him and the conspirators identities. Not me.”

    • Loki

       /  18th November 2015

      Slater pulled the trotter quote out of his arse

      • traveller

         /  18th November 2015

        Do you think that the drive to suicide thing ever happened?

        • I think it was one of Slater’s conspiratorial fantasies, frankly, which frankly went far too far. A bunch of those crazies were sitting around trying to establish any factual basis for the suicide drive plan, even going to the extent of drafting a book supposedly focussing on it. It was going to be the big story that Whaleoil never got to write, because a) he was too lazy, and b) there was never any evidence.

          The only thread to reality that the drive to suicide plan had relates to a person whom Cameron Slater was in a relationship with some time ago. After that ended, Cameron persecuted and harassed that person in the most sick and disgraceful way (not dissimilar to the way that Ben is harassing his principal victim here, and not at all dissimilar to the way that Cameron and his cabal go after irrelevant targets where he doesn’t disclose his interest in their downfall). On the occasion in question, Cameron asked a third party whether the person he was persecuting was dead yet.

          And voila, when Cameron got shut out of all his networks following the release of Dirty Politics, he projects the same game plan on others. Which, by the flavour of the paranoia and misdirection that Ben is carrying on here, will be Ben’s next claim.

          • Joe Bloggs

             /  18th November 2015

            Good grief that’s an extraordinary story…and one which I have no reason to disbelieve.

          • Ben Rachinger

             /  18th November 2015

            I’m sure you made affidavits to the police with all your inside knowledge…

            Oh wait. You didn’t.

            Your as bad as he is, if not worse, for enabling him. Slow clap, a price. I mean, Price 😉

  10. Mike C

     /  18th November 2015

    @Ben and Loki

    A few days ago, I could have sworn that the two of you were basically on the same page as each other regarding Slater&Co.

    But this morning … it seems like you are poles apart … and almost enemies.

    What the fuck happened ??? LOL 🙂

    • Loki

       /  18th November 2015

      Keith Ng layed it all out in a clear and simple way.
      I always thought Ben was a fantasist who managed to do something no other person has ever managed to do*
      Keith Ng confirmed it
      Ben just needs to apologise to JW NOW

      *lighten Slaters pocket.
      They are very similar.
      1Delusions of importance
      2Liars
      3Not very bright

      • Mike C

         /  18th November 2015

        @Loki

        I actually think that Ben is very bright … and the only thing he had going against him was his youth and hanging out with some dodgy people 🙂

        • Jeeves

           /  18th November 2015

          An underdeveloped ethical radar… Lamb lies down in Lion’s den.

  11. Guest

     /  18th November 2015

    Some of you may have missed Pete G’s update to this post. Ng offered bonus content https://twitter.com/keith_ng/status/666446685950705666

    BenR, I can’t imagine how it felt to have Slater believe your every, made up word.Slater thought Prentice and Bradbury were going to jail and he was going to have $1 million.

    But instead, he’s got the begging bowl out and people are pointing at him and laughing.
    Laughing and smirking and enjoying. Sponge Bob told their sheeple just the other day how her and Slater had learnt a very valuable lesson from the business association with Staples and she was glad that part of their lives was over.
    Seems though, if you really aren’t very bright, there’s always a new lesson to be learned just waiting around the corner.

  12. I don’t know who Loki is, and I don’t particularly need to know. I’m not a very religious person, but the intel he is providing on the crumbling Slater pseudo empire is nothing less than God’s work.

    • Ben Rachinger

       /  18th November 2015

      What intel? Nothing not already known. You’re conspicuous in here now. It’s quite funny. You’ve never been as smart as you think you are.

      Loki is either:

      [Deleted – don’t speculate about indentities. PG]

      Versus

      Someone related to Slater…. Who gives no Intel that isn’t widely known (as yet nothing given that isn’t in public realm)

      You people need to try way harder. Way, way, way harder. It’s boringly easy to defeat your angles.

      • Loki

         /  18th November 2015

        Or…
        I am none of the above.
        And thanks Hamish, but God has nothing to do with it.
        Having been a close observer of Slater for over a decade I consider it a requirement to keep needling him.
        His network ( not that there really ever was one other than the hideous Judith Collins) is destroyed.
        He should go and get a job and leave the real work to the brains trust that made him and covered for him and funded him and tried to reign in his more extreme stupidity.

        • Mike C

           /  18th November 2015

          @Loki

          How many people were in the “Brains Trust” … and how much money was paid to Slater over that 10 year time period ???

          • Loki

             /  18th November 2015

            Lots of people from many different walks have tried to help him, and done all the heavy work for him over the years. A lot less money than everybody thinks.
            He is a shameless muppet at talking up his power.
            He has been on the breadline for years. Mooching and scrounging from anybody he could.
            Which makes rachingers big con job all the more hilarious.
            He got ripped off with a mix of incomprehensible nonsense and old fashioned fanboy flattery.
            Rachinger would be a hero if he hadn’t gone full idiot this year and shared intimate photos of JW with the world.

            • Mike C

               /  18th November 2015

              @Loki

              I havent seen the photos of Williams … but she allowed the photos to be taken in the first place and she works in the Media … so surely she should have been much smarter 🙂

            • DaveG

               /  18th November 2015

              Have you ever trusted someone Mike/whoever, only to have them betray you? This is exactly what happened. Ben may have some point scoring or “social rearranging” he hopes to achieve, but what he did to Mis J Williams is not much different to the exposure you recieved yesterday. Its the lowest of the low from Ben, yet he claims to be a decent person, and is now blaming her. I dont see too many other Journo’s on a Kiss and Tell, and I didnt notice Miss J Williams doing the dirty on Benjamin R either – to me, its just more spin from Ben, more of the same unbelievable BS. I could change my mind, but it would take a sworn statement from Both of them stating it was Miss J Williams fault for taking the pics by herself, and leaving them on a table at a cafe for the world to find.

            • Mike C

               /  18th November 2015

              @DaveG

              Apparently Slater published the photos … and that is Bens fault.

              So many people in here seem hell bent on burning Rachinger at the stake … and yet none of us have first hand knowledge of whether he did what he is accused of doing.

              And even if Ben did do what you are all accusing him of doing … you need to ask yourselves if he has done anything like that since.

              People make mistakes … and you only need to be concerned if they keep making the same mistakes and not learning.

              And thank you for your empathy towards me yesterday … it was much appreciated 🙂

            • Ben Rachinger

               /  18th November 2015

              A lot of talk with no details or substance Loki. Who? When? How much? For what purpose?

              You don’t know anything do you? Nice play though.

        • Agent BallSack

           /  18th November 2015

          I have an inkling who you are.

          • Mike C

             /  18th November 2015

            @Agent BallSack

            Jeez … you would make a terrible poker player. LOL 🙂

      • Piss off, Ben. I’d put my personal integrity up against yours any day of the week, and then the rest of the month besides.

        • Ben Rachinger

           /  18th November 2015

          Yeah yeah. I remember you from Twitter, Price. You only cared about getting Hooton and Farrar out of the picture. You’re just another cog in the machine.

          Leave the big boys to the big boy ‘games’. You’re still young and have an opportunity to move away from the direction you’ve been taking.

          Thanks Price 😉

          • Don’t quit your day job, whatever that is, buddy. DPF is an old, old friend of mine. Hooton I chat with occasionally. We have all known each other politically since about the time you were born. None of us occupy the same online, commercial, media, party political, or PR space, and are not rivals in any way, means, shape or form. Now piss off again.

            • Ben Rachinger

               /  18th November 2015

              If that’s the best you can do…. You need to try harder. It’s all going to come out, I can’t help but laugh at your fear. Interesting when it’s used against you rather than how Farrar and Hooton use fear against the little people, isn’t it?

              Must be awful.

              Welcome to our world.

            • So Ben, Rangi Kemara is RK in your email to CS? Can you prove he was paid Bitcoin 900 immediately after the Hack? And if so, is he Rawshark?

            • http://www.putatara.net/2015/07/rawshark-analysis/

              If he is then this post is a middle digit extended …… its a bit long and techie but maybe of interest to you …

            • Guest

               /  18th November 2015

              @bjmarsh1

              Erm…BR was conning Slater. There weren’t any Bitcoins nor payment of said currency. That’s what Ng’s post is about…

      • DaveG

         /  18th November 2015

        Geez ben, you need to throw the “who is Loki” dart at the board again, you left out Nippert, Fisher, Ng, Tiso and a thousand more. You have also said oh so many are wrong, and you are innocent. please, take a few moments to read the comments above, and write down everyone who is WRONG, when you are right, will arrange a few reams of virtual paper for you to record them all on 🙂

  13. Joe Bloggs

     /  18th November 2015

    Yay.! Popcorn time…!

  14. Ben Rachinger

     /  18th November 2015

    I’m preparing a video which includes such people as Price and lays out how dirty politics works on all sides with the help of the mainstream media. I’ll pop back here in for sure but exposing the machine is my sole focus now 😉 I definitely gave them much opportunity to expose themselves.

    • Good for you, Ben. Make sure you’ve had a good nap once you’ve come down from this bender though, otherwise your fidgeting will reduce your credibility.

      • Mike C

         /  18th November 2015

        @HamishP

        Shut the fuck up with your personal insults and innuendo 😦

        • Mike, I can only assume that Ben is on a bender by his conduct and deliberate misdirection today. Personally I think he needs a break.

          • Mike C

             /  18th November 2015

            @HamishP

            You are being deliberately rude towards him.

            • Hardly. He has implied I’m involved with all sorts of conspiracies and suggested I have all sorts of motives, and claimed he’s going to make a video about me. It’s a pathetic little misdirection from a kid who has been caught out fabricating and victimising other people.

              When I told him to cut out the ongoing victimising of somebody, the little snot stamped his feet and continued to unravel. Again, I can only surmise he’s on a bender. Whatever it is, it’s not rational or civilised behaviour. If he’s insulted by that, then boo bloody hoo, frankly.

            • Mike C

               /  18th November 2015

              @Hamish

              Until a few days ago … I had never heard of you ever before.

              So as far as I am concerned … you are a nobody … just the same as the rest of us in here 🙂

              It’s called “A Level Playing Field”. LOL.

            • Good for you. Have a nice day.

            • Mike C

               /  18th November 2015

              @Hamish

              Thank You 🙂

            • DaveG

               /  18th November 2015

              Don’t know you from the proverbial bar of soap Mr Price, but Bens behaviour in here mirrors his behaviour in the lead up to his last breakdown, stuff everyone else, they all lie, they all tell stories, I am the only one with he truth. Ng paints a similar story, Ben lacks any credibility, and also blames BR for the pics of Miz JW, but nice try of his to blame it on Slater.

            • Ben Rachinger

               /  18th November 2015

              Dude, the next breakdown I’ll have is inside the prison you’ll be residing in. I’ll do it deliberately so I can watch your ass peer out from the bars at a desolate wasteland.

              You tried this breaking me shit. It didn’t work. This is all just laughable now, you going down. Savage.

            • DaveG

               /  18th November 2015

              Ben, that is a threat, directly, its noted. I havent tried the breaking shit, im not talking bog, just noting behaviours. And, you dont know me, unless you have access to PeteG’s blog, and all the ip’s etc. If you do, then there is a massive Security breach. Oh, I have not done anything to get to prison ben, have you?

    • Mike C

       /  18th November 2015

      @Ben

      Slow down.

      You don’t need to hurry … because you have many more decades left to live than the rest of us in here. LOL.

      Think in terms of the long game 🙂

    • Guest

       /  18th November 2015

      @BR

      Yes “DaveG” needs to be exposed.

  15. Ben did not answer my reasonable question which could have convinced me – if he is actually being truthful – that his copy of the email series as published was real. His silence on this is deafening!!

  16. Ben Rachinger

     /  18th November 2015

    Travdog – you cannot like me man. That is ever so okay with me. But if you have light to shine on your time as a WhaleOil moderator, I encourage you to do so. Many people who supported Slater obviously want to hear your POV! Why not help them?

    To understand how WO was taking paid hit jobs for money and you knew nothing about it?

    How WO posted comments calling a dead bro a “feral” and you are sweet with it?

    Love you hear your response.

    Regards,
    Your past

    • MaureenW

       /  18th November 2015

      Did you come on to this blog to moralise Ben .. Bit rich

      • Ben Rachinger

         /  18th November 2015

        Maureen is it?

        • MaureenW

           /  18th November 2015

          Ben, yes.

          • MaureenW

             /  18th November 2015

            MikeC is a fan Ben, guess you’re about as successful as WO. Stories used to be about Clarke, Cunliffe, Goff, now they’re out to get MkeC. No disrespect MikeC, but for those who enjoy politics, this isn’t a happening topic.

            • Mike C

               /  18th November 2015

              @Maureen

              Nothing would please me more greatly 🙂

              Perhaps you are capable of arranging this “shift” in some of the commenter’s minds in here.

              If you can’t … then I guess you are gonna have to put up with the shit that your Whale mates keep writing in here. LOL.

            • MaureenW

               /  18th November 2015

              That’s a really dumb comment. You think that because I don’t think Ben is the next coming of Jesus Christ, I’m somehow connected to WO. I’m not. They all stink MC, all in the same shit-pond, just now throwing poo at who they think was worse. Schadenfreude is what’s happening here.

            • Mike C

               /  18th November 2015

              @Maureen

              If I had a dollar for every time someone has written the word “schadenfreude” in here over the past week or so … then I would have close to $10 now 🙂

            • MaureenW

               /  18th November 2015

              @ Mikec .. can’t reply to your comment – too many threads down. I’ll say it again for you “schadenfreude”. Hang on to your $10 bucks mate.

      • MaureenW

         /  18th November 2015

        Used to comment on Whaleoil Ben, watched the videos you (asked?) to have uploaded, watched you on Twitter for a bit, read the WordPress articles, pfffttt!!! So what, now you’re here with the same shit, different day.

        • Budgieboy

           /  18th November 2015

          “Shame shit, different day”. Maureen I’m with you there. Like you I’ve watched young Ben and have no animosity to him, I just wish he’d step back and get his life sorted.

          Ben, everywhere you go and every time you pop on online the pattern is the same. You make claims, strong counter claims and promise great levels of retribution/consequence and accountability to others…but nothing ever comes of it… so you just promise more. But never deliver. Anything. Ever.

          PG has made the call to allow Ben to play in his space inspite of Bens ‘history’. Its clearly PG’s call but not sure it will end well.

          Mike C I’m sorry for what you’ve had dealt against you in the past day or so but backing Ben is not the best idea for you right now.

          • MaureenW

             /  18th November 2015

            Yup people are being duped big time.

          • “PG has made the call to allow Ben to play in his space inspite of Bens ‘history’. Its clearly PG’s call but not sure it will end well.”

            No, that’s not how it is. I have made the call that everyone has equal rights to participate here. If I start excluding some based on the advice of others it will stuff the whole concept of this place.

            Sure you can get all sorts here with all sorts of results, and it’s not always perfect, but for me it’s better than moving towards an exclusive cliche.

            • MaureenW

               /  18th November 2015

              Not an exclusive clique, but do decide what you stand for. This has been a day of bullshit and blunder.

            • I stand for giving anyone an opportunity to speak. Yes, there can be a downside of bullshit, and blunder (but giving them that opportunity is a positive for some).

              If I try to make this blog what people tell me it should be (and of course different people want different things) it would be nothing.

    • Ben, I feel sorry for you, you are nearly 30 and are still playing childish games. You will find eventually that you have to tell the truth, or isolate yourself from the community as a whole. Answer my questions, is Rangi Kemara the RK in your message to CS? Is RK the source i.e. Rawshark. If you do not answer, then I will not believe a single thing you have said on line, and you presence on line will become a fiction.

    • Sorry to tear your nightie Ben, but I’ve moved on from WO. All blogs really, I only turned up here because I heard free popcorn was being dished out. Pretty soon I will disappear for another 12 months as there are more interesting and important things in life than this sad little game that bloggers and other online fame/attention seekers are engaged in. It’s all one big sandpit really.

      • MaureenW

         /  18th November 2015

        Yeeees.

      • Robby

         /  18th November 2015

        I remember your ‘departure’ from WO Travis, and it was what made me start questioning the place. Glad to hear that things are going well for you, what you are seeing here must reinforce your confidence that you made the right decision then….

        • It does, believe me it does. The blogosphere (political blogs anyway) is such a miserable negative cesspit. The political aspect of blogs is almost redundant though, as it seems more about what the other blog/bloggers are doing, who said what, so on and so forth. It’s a kindergarten for adults. I have places where I lurk online, and focus on specific topics that interest me, without having to deal with all the other bullshit. As Maureen said below, “What did we learn today, folks? Like nothing.” and that sums it up really. Political blogs are just a place to come and throw mud, or provide a platform to throw mud.

          • Robby

             /  18th November 2015

            And there is plenty of mud being thrown around here, and all the mud seems to take a curved trajectory around the large elephant in the room, that no-one is allowed to talk about….And all the interested parties are watching closely, eagerly awaiting someone to fuck up by saying something they shouldn’t…
            Excuse me for a minute, the microwave is beeping at me, my popcorn must be ready…. 😉

          • Budgieboy

             /  18th November 2015

            Wish your words were wrong mate but fear you are right.

            Having said that I cannot give up on the concept of real robust political debate.

            Part of what drew me to this place was just that.

            Look, I’m a ‘rightie’…live, breath, love and most importantly believe it’s what works for all of society.

            BUT, (it may surprise you) that there are some lefties I love hearing from…genuinely…I don’t always have to agree with them to appreciate (or even admire) their contribution but I love the back and forth.

            When blogs degenerate into personal wankfests where personality takes over then I think we’re all screwed. Won’t work for most of us, especially me but is that what ‘they’ want? To turn these forums into a shit fight so no one has a voice? Hope not but if that’s the game I’m here to stay.

            • ” is that what ‘they’ want? To turn these forums into a shit fight so no one has a voice? Hope not but if that’s the game I’m here to stay.”

              I think that’s obviously one of the ways they are trying to shut us up. ‘They’ are the worst at it but others are openly and quietly trying to tell me who should be excluded from being able to speak here. If I started doing that it would defeat the purpose of this whole project, and we’ve seen what happens when you Belt a blog into submission.

            • “Belt a blog into submission” ☺☺

              That was a ripper PG. And for the record, I didn’t tell you who you should or shouldn’t have commenting on your blog, I merely advised you who you was unhinged and to be careful.

            • But you may not have correctly named who may have unhinged.

            • Well I did, but there’s more than one.

            • If I excluded everyone who someone else thought was unhinged would you be here? Think about that concept.

            • The was no request for “exclusion” Pete. You keep implying as though I did. I didn’t. Just making sure you have your eyes wide open, nothing more, nothing less. Let’s not make it something it’s not!

            • You are assuming I was referring to you? I’ve had advice from a number of people. You’re corerect on not making something it is not.

            • If you had replied that in my first response we could have avoided this entire conversation 😉

            • jamie

               /  19th November 2015

              I’m sure after everything that’s happened here, including some things that Pete says he can’t tell us about yet, that he has his eyes very much open.

          • “kindergarten for adults”…but isn’t that what politics has become in NZ? you only have to watch the way they carry on in Parliament. 😦

            • Unfortunately yes. Our country’s leaders and representatives set a very poor example.

            • It always was. Funnily enough when parliament is in session it reminds me of blogs, everyone shouting, throwing accusations, cracking mocking jokes at the others and a moderator (the speaker) trying to keep everyone in line haha

  17. MaureenW

     /  18th November 2015

    What did we learn today, folks? Like nothing. A lot of bullshit and bluster, a lot of poo throwing .. YourNZ – I come here because …. May as well call it Spin City

    • Just do what I did……

    • You could always ttry raising topcs of interest Maureen, and not rely on everyone else to give you what you want.

      • MaureenW

         /  18th November 2015

        Yes, I’d like to talk about what Russia is doing..

        • Open forum awaits a piece by you on “What Russia is doing..” I reckon that would be an interesting discussion actually Maureen – will you kick it off tomorrow morning?

          • MaureenW

             /  18th November 2015

            Good question Dave1924, don’t mind, not sure I’d be ready by the morning, but there’s plenty out there to start off with ..

            • Maybe in a couple of days? Cool!

              … The Rus are damn fascinating, on the fringes of Europe for so long and under very autocratic rule for their whole history, just replacing the tsars with dictators really. Part of but apart from all the big cultural movements in the West in particular [Reformation, enlightment etc etc]

              Can’t be easy living on the wide open plains like the Rus do, never knowing what is coming over the Eastern horizon next – bound to burn into the collective psyche an underlying fear everyone is out to get you and a real yearning for strong leaders to protect you from the unknown…..

              Project that into the 20th and 21st centuries and its not hard to understand Putins appeal to a disillusioned Russia populace a drift on a failed experiment in free markets and democracy…

              I await your conversation starter on Russia in a few days time!

            • MaureenW

               /  18th November 2015

              Personally, I don’t happen to believe that “life” is an experience based on free markets and democracy. Please define Western Democracy, it appears to be shrinking??

            • Robby

               /  18th November 2015

              She need not bother Dave, you just did it yourself. Would you like me to edit it for you?

            • MaureenW

               /  18th November 2015

              Seriously Dave1924, are you fucking serious?

            • Mike C

               /  19th November 2015

              @Maureen

              Clearly Dave1924 was being deadly fucking serious. LOL.

              You want to talk about Russia … and Dave wants to read what you have to say on the subject 🙂

            • About what Maureen W? You said Russia…. if you mean what Putin is up to in his foreign policy then that’s slightly different….. If that’s not the response you wanted then maybe be more specific in the theme or issue for discussion.

              … I see Pete has started a thread and Partisanz is going at it full noise…..

  18. Really disappointed that you’re giving Ben a platform to continue to harass and attack a woman. It’s not enough that she has been the victim of revenge porn – she now has to deal with her name all through the blog and Ben talking about private details about her personal life and naming her partner. Is this really the kind of platform you want? A place where anyone with a grudge against their ex can come and further victimise them? I don’t know how she is coping with the pressure, but if she cracks under Ben’s sustained abuse and harassment you will also have blood on your hands for providing him with a platform to continue to attack her.

    • Ben Rachinger

       /  19th November 2015

      Their ex?

      Loooooool. Is that what JW calls me? Seriouslyz. I really await your response.

    • Ben Rachinger

       /  19th November 2015

      The only blood on people’s hands that you need to worry about is my blood on the hands of the people that have continued this shit for over a year now.

      But ok. Nice academic statement.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  19th November 2015

      Ok, I call b.s. on all this. Nowhere I have seen here has Ben R further victimised JW. Rather his critics have ranted and raved about it.

      If you actually have any concerns for the tender psyche of an attack political journalist perhaps you should pull your own heads in.

  19. Jeeves

     /  19th November 2015

    “Here lies the grave of Ben O’Dey,
    Who died maintaining his right of way.

    His right was clear,
    And his will was strong,

    But he’s just as dead
    As if he’d been wrong”.

  20. Ben, I don’t know you or her. I just called her your ex because you had photos of her on your phone. The fact that that’s the only thing in my comment that is incorrect says a lot. And you’re not going to hurt yourself. You’re enjoying this too much. But one day your parents are going to give up on you and stop financially supporting you, and that’s when you’re going to wish you didn’t seek all of this attention because you’ve basically made yourself unemployable with this rubbish. You’re always going to be known as the fantasist who traded revenge porn.

    • Mike C

       /  19th November 2015

      @”k”

      Not hard to tell that you are connected to Slater&Co and Lauda Finem 🙂

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  19th November 2015

        Yes, just another tedious axe-grinder. Who cares what you think, K? It has nothing to do with anything going on here. Go play your infantile attack games somewhere else.

        Or grow up and contribute something original and relevant that doesn’t read as though you are a zombie spouting your puppet-master’s script.

  21. ha, I had never heard of ‘revenge porn’ til I kept reading about it here. 🙂

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