Paris climate agreement

The COP21 climate change summit in Paris has reached an agreement on climate change.

BBC reports:

A deal to attempt to limit the rise in global temperatures to less than 2C has been agreed at the climate change summit in Paris after two weeks of negotiations.

The deal is the first to commit all countries to cut carbon emissions.

The agreement is partly legally binding and partly voluntary.

The measures in the final draft included:

• To peak greenhouse gas emissions as soon as possible and achieve a balance between sources and sinks of greenhouse gases in the second half of this century

• To keep global temperature increase “well below” 2C (3.6F) and to pursue efforts to limit it to 1.5C

• To review progress every five years

• $100 billion a year in climate finance for developing countries by 2020, with a commitment to further finance in the future.


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  1. Alan Wilkinson

     /  13th December 2015

    So we get to fund an ongoing five-yearly pointless bun-fest. Wonderful.

  2. kiwi guy

     /  13th December 2015

    I thought the scientist were saying under 2C target is too late now.

  3. Timoti

     /  13th December 2015

    What a joke: To keep global temperature increase “well below” 2C (3.6F) and to pursue efforts to limit it to 1.5C. That’s like saying we will keep summer temperatures under
    28 degrees. And what happened to CO2?

    What you are seeing is the UN socialist agenda of redistributing wealth to developing
    nations right under our noses.

    But what other gems are buried in the one tonne of fine print? You can bet it
    will impinge on our sovereignty and pockets

    • The word socialist is out of place here, as usual used in typical ‘silver bullet’ fashion.

      @ Timoti – “the UN [socialist] agenda of redistributing wealth to developing nations”.

      We wouldn’t want that, would we!? We don’t want the developing world to become real markets – not too quickly anyhow – equal players or anything like that. Not when we’re busy corporate-colonising them; robbing them blind a second or third time over – this time in the name of globalisation and ‘their’ development.

      I reckon if you have privileges like that, you should pay taxes for them and have the taxes redistributed to the resource markets you are exploiting. Since in many cases multinationals are not paying tax, or not doing so properly, the UN seems a reasonable forum through which to do it. I heard Helen Clarke talking about this on RNZ.

      I suspect its called the “United Nations” for some reason?
      The more teeth it gets the better I reckon.

      ” …fine print? You can bet it will impinge on our sovereignty and pockets”

      But I guess you were happy with TPPA, huh?

    • Nicely put Timoti – climate changes, it warms and it cools according to a model we only partial understand. Maybe humans are partial causing some of the change at moment, maybe not. I can’t get too excited about it as I have a pretty firm belief that its being oversodl and that technology will buffer humanity from any adverse effects in the medium term [say over a 30 year time span].

      This current movement is being used as a smoke screen to manage the assuaging of some residual Western colonial guilt by Socialist inspired individuals and organisations. You just need to look at Greens in NZ to realise that. They clothe their socialist agenda under peace to trees and snails rhetoric.

      The best thing the West in broad terms, can do in my view, is engage in non-exploitative Free Trade. Which means roping in some of the dodgy resource extraction companies in Africa, South American and Asia to ensure the host countries get most of the benefit from the resource extraction. Heck if we do that then prices for resources may rise again and cause a little upward movement in inflation which in the current climate would be appreciated.

      This approach of course requires a couple of things:

      1 – Western governments not backing dodgy multi national behaviour, which they currently do as the political class in the West benefits from letting these companies run unchecked. And yes I mean the benefit personally in a financial way…

      2 – Host country governments stopping their near sighted corrupt practices and focus on benefiting their populations via not taking backhanders and instead having resource extraction policies that ensure a decent level of tax revenue from the resource extraction and the reinvestment of those funds in improving host country infrastructure and business opportunities

      And before I hear the wails of won’t work – have a look at how Botswana are leveraging their position as a world leading diamond producer to benefit their population. De Beers has happily worked with the Botswana Government to mutual benefit.

  4. Brown

     /  13th December 2015

    Funding developing nations will mean tin pot dictators continue to wreck the local economies because we pay them to. A disaster is brewing.

  5. Zedd

     /  13th December 2015

    Can we take this seriously.. when you see Obama & Co. arriving on their private jets (spewing out tons of CO2) ?
    I agree with AW.. the reality, it is a celebrity talk-fest paid for by the tax-payer.
    Actions speak louder than words ! :/

    • @ Zedd – leaving aside the “You can talk!” argument, ie “you, being the leader of a global superpower, have your own private (untrue) jet, so you can talk!” my question is –

      Will any of the nations take action without the “talk”?
      Don’t we need talk in order to “walk the talk”?

      A worthwhile thing to do, in my opinion, would be to lobby our politicians to first, walk the talk, and second, send our reps to the next meeting on a single aircraft that picks up leaders from multiple destinations … or something … you know … on the most energy efficient transport available …

      • Zedd

         /  13th December 2015


        have you heard of skype ? LOL

        • @Zedd – its interesting you should mention that. A relative of mine has been attending medical conferences all over the world for many years, and for all that time I have wondered why they didn’t tele-video-conference or now, as you say, skype?

          This has been NOT HAPPENING for so long in so many fields I thought it was off the agenda and not worth mentioning. But you are quite right.

          I honestly think there may be reasons for the personal contact other than ‘junket’. Something of genuine value in real rather than digital interaction?

          And let’s face it, people can go gallivanting all over the world on jet aircraft whenever they want and can afford to. Any complaints about that?

          We fly cut flowers and mushrooms daily from NZ to Japan on jumbos (apparently).
          Racehorses … who knows what …?

          • Quite a lot can and will be being achieved via teleconference now.
            But conferencesd are still important.

            Some of the most useful aspects of conferences are in communications with people off the conference floor.

            • I think so Pete. And anyhow, if there ever is, as I predict there will be one day, a phasing out of jet airliner travel, I don’t expect the President of the United States to be the first to give it up.

  6. unitedtribes2

     /  13th December 2015

    For 1 deg C we get 2.5 meter increase in sea level. So 2 degrees increases it 5 meters and also to my front lawn were I will be able to tie the Bayliner up 10 meters from the front door. Bring it on.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  13th December 2015

      The bad news is that at the current rise rate of 3mm/yr it will take 1700 yrs to reach 5m. By that time we will be bankrupt from funding climate talks.

      • kittycatkin

         /  13th December 2015

        I don’t suppose that any of us here will care 😀

        I wonder what will happen when we all do the things that will supposedly change the climate back and nothing happens-the climate goes on changing as it always has.

  7. This shows how complex climate changes are, in this case polar ice melt raisning see levels and redistributing weight on our planet which changes the Earth’s balance and rotation (slows it down), and how science like this is always going to be a work in progress.

    Scientists may have just solved one of the most troubling mysteries about sea-level rise

    Put some emphasis on ‘may’.

  8. Zedd

     /  14th December 2015

    All the talk is just that.. for anything to change, it needs action too.. I’m hearing that this is already being disputed OR even ignored (eg by ‘Team Key’) :/

  9. Climate Change. Global Warming.
    A massive moral panic.
    A massive hug fest by the most conceited condescending ignorant people in the most comfortable countries – ignoring chronic problems in preference for whatever gratifies their emotional investment. Have you seen the dick head crying over a melting glacier?
    If you want to save the planet how about the problems that are right under your nose right now?
    To stand up and claim you are saving the planet is the worst demonstration of ignorance and intellectual poverty imaginable. A dystopian sci fi author couldn’t imagine this B.S.
    And of course, once this has gripped the imagination of the armchair hand wringers for several decades at the cost of millions of lives from preventable economic deaths – they’ll all just lose interest and move onto the next thing. And the sea level will continue doing whatever it is doing. The ice case will continue to behave completely normally. And the sun will continue to keep us warm. Yay. Warmth…um…history tells us that human civilisation thrived in warm periods … and global flora thrives under high CO2 levels. Globally a 25% increase in the past 30 years. The deserts are greening for gods sake. What do these climate sheep want? Talk about easily distracted!!


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