Social Media – Saturday

19 December 2015

Social Media Watch is an open forum similar to Open Forum where any topic can be introduced, but with a focus on New Zealand blogs and social media.

This expands on the aim for Your NZ to be a joint project with the more people contributing and the more variety the better.

A general guideline – post opinion on or excerpts from and links to blog posts or comments of interest, whether they are praise, criticism, pointing out issues or sharing useful information.

If being critical address the issues and don’t do personal abuse. Constructive and reasonably balanced criticism is more effective than general moans.

As usual avoid anything that could cause any legal issues such as potential defamation or breaching suppression orders.

Also remember that keeping things civil, legal and factual is more effective and harder to argue against or discredit.

Note that sometimes other blogs get irate if their material is highlighted elsewhere but the Internet is specifically designed to share and repeat information and anyone who comments or puts anything into a public forum should be aware that it could be republished elsewhere (but attribution is essential).

If comments raise issues deserving of a full post I may use content to do a post, and may expand on it.

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  1. From the ‘finding weird claims’ department, found on Reddit:

    [–] PrettyMuchAMess

    At least Pete George is banned here, so no clogging up of the threads with inane Pete George bullshit like what happened over at The Standard…

    I’m not aware of being banned from Reddit. I’ve hardly read there let alone commented. Do they ban people who don’t use Reddit?

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  19th December 2015

      If that’s the quality of a typical Reddit discussion I’d ban myself there.

      • Pete Kane

         /  19th December 2015

        I think we can take as read, Alan, you already are. Actually, I guessing (by timing) they took YNZ’s Trouble at WO article from a link I came across, that Russell Brown had posted during a Krone Mayoralty discussion. And it was worthwhile too.
        ( Hey I see from Pete’s link, they’ve got what they call a ‘Local Subreddit’ on Stewart Island, amongst others. Always interesting that fine line between ‘the mad’ and ‘the hilarious’.)

  2. Kevin

     /  19th December 2015

    If I ever got banned from Reddit I would consider it a badge of honour.

  3. Pete Kane

     /  19th December 2015

    Open letter to Nicky Hager
    by Whaleoil Staff on December 19, 2015 at 9:00am
    By George
    “So Nicky, the issue for most NZers is how much value we place on moral behavior.”
    (His spelling.)…………………………..

  4. So Pete, you get a mention in Mr Edward’s column (not that I read him mind 😉 )

    “Cameron Slater’s ongoing Dirty Politics

    You probably shouldn’t trust anything written in this column. At least that’s what Cameron Slater would have you believe. Slater has just launched his latest project with co-conspirator Simon Lusk, which includes an evaluation of political journalists and commentators. The first issue of their monthly Incite newsletter came out on Tuesday, and it labelled my work as “Not to be trusted” and gave me an evaluation of two out of ten. Other pundits and journalists fared worse – Richard Harman got 8/10, followed closely by Barry Soper on 7/10. At the other end of the scale, Rachel Smalley would have been very happy with her 1/10.

    For an amusing review of the new publication, see Danyl Mclauchlan’s blog post, Why You Need Incite in Your Life – a Review of Cameron Slater’s $35 Monthly Newsletter. See also Pete George’s Incite review. For a more favourable spin, published on Slater’s Whaleoil blog, see Inside Incite (and why you should subscribe).

    Pete George blogged that Slater’s Whaleoil blog could be in a perilous state – see: Conflict at Whale Oil. This blog post reports a testy exchange between Slater and the blog’s apparent co-owner, and in the comments section there are further revealing discussion from former Whaleoil volunteers.

    Part of Whaleoil’s decline is financial, and the latest advertiser to pull the plug is entrepreneur Rod Drury – see Matt Nippert’s Xero boss withdraws advertising from Whaleoil. According to this article, “Rodney Hide has confirmed he was probably behind a series of Whaleoil posts attacking Xero that led Rod Drury to suspend advertising on the controversial blog.”

  5. From the Whale Oil site today:

    “Some people astonish me with their stupid and then their excuse making.
    A 12-year-old boy critically injured after falling through a skylight at a Palmerston North primary school has been transferred to Starship Children’s Hospital in Auckland.
    He was given first aid by police staff and transferred to Palmerston North Hospital where his condition was described as critical.”

    Detective Sergeant Grayson Joines said it was “a really unfortunate situation”.
    “There’s been some running around. We can’t be satisfied at this stage that he has in fact been running along the roof and stepped through a skylight, he may well have rested on a skylight not knowing it was fragile or whatever.

    “We are satisfied from speaking to the boys last night that they weren’t there committing any offence. They were just doing what kids do, having fun.”

    Trespass isn’t an offence anymore? Good to know.

    Vandalism, not an offence?

    Wilful damage, not an offence?

    I’m not sure about you, but I don’t know too many 12 year olds running about on school roofs at 8:30pm.

    Perhaps in feral suburbs this might be normal, but it isn’t everywhere else.”

    I would post on there but any comment would be censored out.

    The author is given as Cameron Slater. While I previously used “3M” for him I did not use ‘miserable’ and ‘misanthrope’. He seems to be in a particularly shitty mood today. 12 year old boys just having fun, just being boys and according to someone with knowledge, not having ill-intent. Someone seriously hurt but ill-intent comes from him.

    I don’t know whether he would have been game enough to climb up on a roof at that age or had adventures with other kids just out ‘being boys’ as a 12 year old.

    One episode from his childhood when he was about the same age is well-known and familiar no doubt to most readers on here. I would rather my kid had the pluck and sense of adventure of the unfortunate victim than whatever it was that caused Slater to act as he did at the same age.


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