Awards and choking on a Minto

There’s been a lot of frothing over the New Year honours.

‘Natwatch’ at The Standard: Sir Lynton Crosby and Dame Paula Rebstock

The British Conservative Government and the New Zealand National Government have both rewarded their friends with titles.

Martyn Bradbury at The Daily Blog: Honours List is dishonourable – TDB Honours list 2015

We need a ‘People’s Honours’ list for those who have challenged the state – not those who have acted for the State.

And John Minto at The Daily Blog: What’s that? – choke, splutter! – Dame Paula Rebstock???

If you choked on your muesli at the news Paula Rebstock has been made a Dame in the government’s New Year’s Honours list then join the club.

Rebstock’s award is confirmation of the highly political nature of our national honours system.

In giving an award to Rebstock John Key is giving the finger to us all.

A look through the main awards shows a vastly disproportionate list of addresses from Remuera and Parnell and other well-to-do suburbs. National is hard at work rewarding its biggest supporters.

It’s curious that there have been no comments on Minto’s post and only two on Bradbury’s.

It may be true that the main party in power tends to favour people on it’s side of the political spectrum with honours.

But what we don’t know is who turns down honours offered to them, we only get to find out about people who are offered honours and accept them.

It may be that people from “from Remuera and Parnell” put more value on status symbols like flash properties and titles so are more likely to be offered them and accept them.

Bradbury lists his own ‘TDB Honours list 2015’ which includes:

  • Helen Kelly for services to humanity, cannabis reform, worker rights and being an incredible human being.

I think it would be fair enough for Helen Kelly to get some sort of honours recognition. I don’t know if she was offered anything or not but it wouldn’t surprise to me if she had greater priorities at the moment.

And I wonder if Bradbury, Minto, and others complaining about those who they think were deserving of honours missing out, nominated anyone. That’s how people get to be considered for honours.

Here’s how it works: NOMINATIONS FOR HONOURS

Nominations may be made by any person or persons by completing a nomination form.  Nomination forms and information on the honours system are available from the Honours Unit, Members of Parliament and Electorate Offices.

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  1. kiwi guy

     /  1st January 2016

    “It may be that people from “Remuera and Parnell” put more value on status symbols like flash properties and titles so are more likely to be offered them and accept them.”

    Or maybe people with a high IQ, drive and ambition to excell in their chosen career fields reap the financial rewards that allow them to live in desirable suburbs.

  2. kiwi guy

     /  1st January 2016

    “I think it would be fair enough for Helen Kelly to get some sort of honours recognition.”

    Bradbury is a proud Marxist ( or neo Marxist or whatever “edgy” new label they are applying to themselves these days ), he has wrapped himself in the ideology of mass murders who made what the Nazis did look like child’s play.

    It is fitting that Ms Kelly would get 2 thumbs up from that Totalitarian.

    • Blazer

       /  1st January 2016

      ‘mass murders who made what the Nazis did look like child’s play.’….is this reference to
      ‘author Alexsander Solzhenitsyn in his work, “Gulag Archipelago, Vol 2,” affirms that Zionist Jews created and administered the organized Soviet concentration camp system in which these tens of millions of Christians and Non-Jews died. ?

    • Patzcuaro

       /  1st January 2016

      I’m not sure if Helen Kelly was offered an honour or would even accept one but she deserves recognition for the CTU taking private prosecution cover deaths in the forestry industry.

      Work place safety is one area that the government can’t delegate responsibility to business. You only have to look to Pike River to see the tragic consequences of too little regulation in this area.

  3. kiwi guy

     /  1st January 2016

    “And I wonder if Bradbury, Minto, and others complaining about those who they think were deserving of honours missing out, nominated anyone. ”

    They are Marxists who hate the values of Western Civilization and lust for a bloody Socialist Revolution – they aren’t about to start legitimising the Capitalistic pigs honours system.

  4. Blazer

     /  1st January 2016

    Honours’ have been in the process of being degraded for years now.Knighthoods are dispensed like confetti and Nobel Awards have become a laughing stock.

  5. kittycatkin

     /  1st January 2016

    Blazer is showing his ignorance again. Knighthoods are NOT scattered like confetti; people have to be nominated and there is a long process to decide who is given one. The Nobel Prizes are not a laughing stock in most people’s eyes, I imagine. There is only one for each category, and the recipients are carefully chosen from everyone in the world. A Nobel Prize is a.great honour. A relation of mine who was awarded one was a very famous writer indeed, and this was not their only honour.

    Blazer may think this because he is unlikely to be knighted. I am unlikely to be made a Dame, but I don’t pretend to despise the honour. If they were ‘scattered like confetti’, then why are there so few of them ? I only know two.

    • kittycatkin

       /  1st January 2016

      One of each, that is. And if they were as common as Blazer suggests, I should know more than that. Who ‘dispenses’ confetti, anyway ? Most people throw it.

    • Blazer

       /  1st January 2016

      ‘The Prize in Literature has a history of controversial awards and notorious snubs. Many indisputably major authors have been ignored by the Nobel Committee, often for political or extra-literary reasons.[42] Conversely, many writers whom subsequent criticism regarded as minor, inconsequential or transitional have won the prize.’

      ‘Economics was not on Nobel’s original list of prize disciplines. The Bank of Sweden created it in 1969. Although it is governed by the same rules as the others, many, including members of the Nobel Family, criticized this prize for violating Nobel’s intent. As of 2010, faculty of the University of Chicago had garnered nine Prizes—far more than any other university. This led to claims of bias against alternative or heterodox economics.[who?]

      ‘In 2015, Geir Lundestad, director of the Norwegian Nobel Institute (who sat in on the committee’s meetings but did not have a vote[81]), wrote in his memoir, Secretary of Peace, that he regretted giving the prize to Obama.[82] The committee “thought it would strengthen Obama and it didn’t have this effect”, Lundestad told the Associated Press, though he fell short of calling the award a mistake.[81] “In hindsight, we could say that the argument of giving Obama a helping hand was only partially correct,” Lundestad wrote.[81]

      The 2007 prize went to Al Gore and the IPCC, “for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change”. The award received criticism on the grounds of political motivation and because the winners’ work was not directly related to ending conflict.[8′
      a few examples from Wiki.Plenty more.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  1st January 2016

      You need to distinguish the Nobel Peace Prize from all the others. It is chosen by a completely different organization as I understand it and has made some outstandingly daft political decisions.

      • kittycatkin

         /  1st January 2016

        My relation was given it for poetry; there is a Nobel Prize for poetry. They were the Chair of Poetry at Oxford. This person was offered the British Poet Laureateship and declined it. This was a major writer by anyone’s standards, I don’t want to say who it was, but I can assure you that this was one of the 20th century’s major poets and one who was honoured many times. There would be few libraries without this person’s work and I would venture to say few universities where their work is not studied in the English department. In spite of your sneers, a Nobel Prize (which you wrongly call the Nobel Award) is something well worth having.

  6. kiwi guy

     /  1st January 2016

    Obama got a Nobel Peace prize barely into his presidency, then proceeded to bomb the f out of the ME.

  7. higherstandard

     /  1st January 2016

    If there was an award for the most hideous screaming skull Minto would win it every year, odious negative twerp that he is.

    Why is there not an award for NZ’s greatest sysop ?


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