Piles of pile-on palaver

There’s been ongoing angst and other discussion about a so-called pile-on on Twitter.

Last Wednesday there was an article in the Herald by journalist Kirsty Johnston. After a lot of Twitter reaction Johnston was said to have “rage quit Twitter”.

This was still simmering yesterday. In reaction to a post and discussion at Dim-Post plus presumably more tweeting another journalist announced they were having a break from twitter after criticising Danyl.

I haven’t had a close look at the rights or wrongs in all this but it seems to be a mix of Twitter swarms meeting with a slow news time of year.

The Dim-Post post was mainly aimed at pointless feuds involving “progressive activists”.

A note on pile-ons

Second day back at work and NZ Twitter is already the site of pointless feuds, the latest one causing one of the best journalists in the country to delete her account so she doesn’t have to engage with progressive activists any more.

Online progressive activists tend to have a high regard for what they do: they’re educating people, speaking truth to power, changing the world, etc. But mostly the result of this education and challenging via social media pile-ons and call-outs seems to result in the subjects hating progressive activists and identity politics and/or deleting their social media accounts. These don’t seem like big wins for the cause. It often feels to me like the real goal here is to have fun shitting all over people while feeling sanctimonious about it.

But now Danyl has been accused of doing the shitting on because of attempted explanations as the comments continue in parallel to the twittering.

There seems to be a lot of immaturity and over-angst on Twitter in particular, but it can be very hard to separate that from genuine concerns and collateral damage.


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  1. David

     /  11th January 2016

    That Twitter seems like a nest of vicious lefties screaming at stuff, the fact that it seems every journalist in the country seems to live on there the pressure to please and the fear of being excluded from the group has left us with a troubling left wing slant in our media.
    Ipsos polling has us the most ignorant of the facts population on earth.

  2. Kevin

     /  11th January 2016

    “Rhetoric is all about what emotions you trigger in the other person; when SJWs talk to each other, they try to inflate themselves at the other’s expense in order to sort out their position in the SJW hierarchy. Of course, SJW metrics are all but unintelligible to normal, sane human beings, so it can amusing as well as educational to watch them attempt to simultaneously exaggerate both their importance and victimhood …
    The basic idea is that if you can make the other person feel small or angry, you are winning at SJW rhetoric. This is why SJWs are constantly accusing other people of being mad or upset; it’s just another way of them claiming to be winning the conversation. If you can make the other person submit, run away, or fall silent, then you have won the conversation, and you are higher in the SJW hierarchy than he is.”

    From “SJWs always lie” by Vox Day

    This pretty much explains OAB and all the other trolls over on The Standard.

    • “The basic idea is that if you can make the other person feel small or angry, you are winning at SJW rhetoric.”

      That’s why I have annoyed the likes of OAB and others at The Standard and elsewhere, and also the LF muppets – their anger card doesn’t work with me. They don’t know how to deal with calm responses and their attacks get more and more absurd..

  3. Moonie01

     /  11th January 2016

    The best use for twitter is to easily identify the extreme left wing leanings of certain media figures who would like their forced audience to otherwise think of them as “independent”.

  4. kiwi guy

     /  11th January 2016

    “There seems to be a lot of immaturity and over-angst on Twitter in particular”

    No surprise there, social media is dominated by females, they wile away many hours there uploading selfies, cat pixs, complaining about how tough they have it and checking back to see how many likes, followers and retweets they have clocked up.

    • “social media is dominated by females”

      How do you know that? Have you got anything to back that claim up with? I doubt that is correct.

    • Dude, you have GOT to stop being so anti-female. If you’ve got a point to make, make it. Some of the best people I know are strong, strident feminists and it’s not fair to them for me to be silent when I read what you just wrote.

      Yes, some females tend to take the whole patriarchy thing a million miles too far. You could make that point without generalising.

      I note you don’t offer solutions mate…. Why is that?

      • Timoti

         /  12th January 2016

        Why is that?…..Kiwi guy is a have.You’ve just provided his pay-off. Hey, you aren’t Kiwi Guy by any chance, are you?


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