Key and Ambrose settle

John Key and Bradley Ambrose have settled in their defamation case, with Key accepting that Ambrose didn’t intentionally leave the microphone recording, and Ambrose accepting that Key believed at the time the Ambrose did intentionally record.

Key said he had paid a small amount to Ambrose in lieu of legal costs.

After initial reports that Key’s payment might be paid by his leader’s fund he later said it would be raised and paid by the national party.

Greens and NZ First have jumped in trying to score some points. UPDATE: Andrew Little has also climbed on the bashwagon.

My summary of all this:

  • As I remember it the media encouraged key and Banks to have a symbolic cafe meeting.
  • Key relented and arranged the meeting, unwisely.
  • The cafe meeting was a media circus.
  • Key and Banks should never have discussed anything that they wouldn’t have wanted made public.
  • Ambrose should not have recorded the fiasco.
  • Ambrose should not have released details to media about the recording.
  • Key should not have over reacted with a police complaint.
  • The police should not have raided media offices.
  • The media shouldn’t have given Winston Peters so much opportunistic publicity when he milked it.
  • The media shouldn’t have given it all so much attention generally (and this seems to have been revived today).
  • Key and Ambrose should have resolved things long ago.
  • Key shouldn’t abuse his position of power when he gets pissed off with media.

This was a fiasco from before the start and that seems to have reignited today. It’s a symptom if some of the worst of our politics and media.

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  1. So Mr Key’s office released an “agreed” statement with Bradley Ambrose saying Mr Key accepts the cafe recording was not deliberate, and acknowledged his comments on the matter had been harmful. It said a “small payment” would be paid towards Mr Ambrose’s costs.

    So what is “small” and how do we know it was “small” when it comes from a secret fund and we aren’t told? A payment from our fund.

    If you are worth the best part of $100 million and run a country worth billions, how big does a payment have to be before it is deemed to be “not small”?

    We know the stuff in the public statement. Are there any parts of the settlement of the case and the backdown that are not mentioned in the statement?

    The lack of information creates an impression of trying to create a ‘nothing to look at here’ scenario. And of course it could give the impression of a snake quietly, rapidly slithering away.

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    • Gezza

       /  21st March 2016

      I expect this will see the issue dead and buried at last.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  21st March 2016

        I do hope so. Patrick Gower has an objectionable manner-he always seems to look as if he believes the worst or everyone.

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        • Gezza

           /  21st March 2016

          It’s a genetic thing. He can’t help looking like that. 😎

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  21st March 2016

            He looks as if someone’s just farted-a real sulphur bomb-and he can’t move away from it and is trying not to show that he can smell it.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  21st March 2016

              Or as if he’s trying really hard not to let off a really loud, long one himself.

            • Gezza

               /  21st March 2016

              I s’pose we shouldn’t really mock…. :/

            • Pickled Possum

               /  21st March 2016

              Yea agree Geez
              I watched his interview on The Nation with Iranian Minister of Foreign Affairs who spoke most eloquently till he got to “live cattle shipment” to Iran then I got pissed at that … long way for the hambugers to sail with great discomfort to the cattle … Grrrrr or are these cattle just a breeding plan start up kit?

              Any way back to Patrick for the first time I didn’t want to throw something heavy at his face on the TV 🙂 he was quite a normal sounding human, who I won’t mock cream any more

  2. I think using tax dollars for this is disgraceful , surely an OIA could request the details ?

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    • Pantsdownbrown

       /  21st March 2016

      It says above the National party is paying for it?

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      • oh I heard on RNZ that it was from the Parliamentary Funds …i obviously misheard !

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        • Pantsdownbrown

           /  21st March 2016

          I think it was originally reported as that……

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        • It was first reported as being paid for by the taxpayer but that had changed by Key’s press conference later in the day.

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          • Robby

             /  21st March 2016

            It’s changed again….
            http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11609307
            “/ The Prime Minister will also make a “small payment” towards Mr Ambrose’s costs, which will be met from the Parliamentary leaders’ budget – something Labour and NZ First have criticised.”
            If the Speaker rules the fund should not be used, the National Party would pay, Mr Key said.
            “The rules have been pretty clear for a long period of time, and plenty of politicians have used the leaders’ fund, or if it as a minister or prime minister, Crown Law. So there is nothing new here.” /”

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  3. Brown

     /  21st March 2016

    ”Key relented and arranged the meeting, unwisely.”

    There are two words that seem increasingly to go together like peaches and cream. Key, unwisely.

    I can’t believe someone so supposedly clever got suckered so easily.

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  4. Kitty Catkin

     /  21st March 2016

    They are. But this won’t stop those who lose no opportunity to abuse John Key.

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  5. Kitty Catkin

     /  21st March 2016

    I was answering Pants,

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  6. jamie

     /  21st March 2016

    Good summary.

    I think what bothers me more than as you put it “the PM abusing his position of power” is the Police so willingly going along with it.

    And that’s not an anti-Key observation before anyone starts 😉 , it applies to the position.

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  7. An interesting insight by Tracy Watkins:

    Anyone who thinks John Key’s backdown over the teapot tapes isn’t a huge deal to him personally clearly can’t have been on the election trail at the time.

    Key’s temper is slow to the boil and the teapot tapes bombshell was the first time any of us who followed his political career had seen him truly angry.

    There is only one other occasion during which most of us can recall Key really losing his rag like he did over the teapot tapes and that was a whole election campaign later, the day after Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics landed.

    Key’s clipped answers to questions on Monday about his legal settlement with cameraman Bradley Ambrose is an indication of just how deep his feelings still run over the teapot tape saga.

    So take this week’s settlement for what it is, a tactical withdrawal by Key who doesn’t want the affair dragged through the courts, especially after it seemed Ambrose would receive sufficient support through a crowd funding campaign to pay his legal bills.

    But at best it’s an agreement between the two key players to agree to disagree.

    That it took five years for Key to even reach that point speaks volumes.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/78114758/Why-John-Keys-backdown-on-the-teapot-tapes-is-a-bigger-deal-than-you-think

    That makes sense, Key’s response was quite different to normal.

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    • Gezza

       /  21st March 2016

      I think they both got themselves out of a bad situation with probably equal relief.

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  8. Iceberg

     /  21st March 2016

    Does anyone really believe Ambrose didn’t do this deliberately?

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  9. SteveRemmington

     /  22nd March 2016

    Regardless of who is in the right and who is in the wrong, this is a massive victory for the Left.

    I would expect The Strandard to take advantage of this and create 9 different posts as to why this cements Andrew “Gamechanger” Little as the true heir to the treasury benches.

    Snigger

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