“The wrong hacker”

Spanish Bride (Edit: I originally refereed to Cameron Slater as the author, not noticing the post was under his wife’s name, but that makes little difference) had posted about and assured he had information about the hack (‘Rawshark’) and had promised to reveal all, but was apparently holding back due to the police investigation into the hack.

The police investigation, which resulted in the raid on Nicky Hager and the seizing of his computers and data, now seems to be at an end.

Today Slater has posted some specific allegations and a fairly obvious implication:

Looks Like Team Hager hired the wrong hacker

In an attempt to subvert an election a hacker was hired. He did what he was paid to do, handed over an edited selection as told to by his mega pay master to Nicky Hager and the rest is history.

But Slater has provided no details. I have seen no evidence of any of those claims.

Can we assume from this he has no evidence and is either guessing or simply making things up?

It wouldn’t be surprising, he and some of his associates have a record of making  accusations but failing to front up with any credible evidence.

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  1. Oliver

     /  3rd April 2016

    Slater is all noise and no substance. Why people bother with him is beyond me. Harger is too smart for people like Slater and the police. No one will catch the “hacker”.

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    • “No one will catch the “hacker”.”

      It looks like the police won’t catch the hacker. And it looks like Slater doesn’t have any evidence.

      So it looks like Dirty Politics will go down as a major loss for Slater and his associates in dirt mongering.

      I’ve always been against illegal political hacking but I doubt the utu result will be a problem for most people.

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      • Pantsdownbrown

         /  3rd April 2016

        “So it looks like Dirty Politics will go down as a major loss for Slater and his associates in dirt mongering”

        Slater certainly lost out in terms of willing informants (from any political party) but the biggest loss was to the left-wing in this country who were hammered in the election in part due to ‘Dirty Politics’ not containing any ‘smoking gun’ (most people already knew Slater was ‘dirty’) and Dotcom’s ‘moment of failure’.

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        • Yeah, decent democracy in general took a major hit in 2014.

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          • jamie

             /  3rd April 2016

            In the short term, yes. Long term effects remain to be seen but I think we’re better off for having all this stuff out in the open.

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  2. Pantsdownbrown

     /  3rd April 2016

    I think Slater only has an idea who the hacker was with no hard evidence, the obvious one being Dotcom (which he is suggesting here). Putting it all together though it doesn’t take much imagination to come to that conclusion.

    (in no particular order)

    *Dotcom has a hackers background, ties to Hacking networks & an axe to grind with Slater/Key.
    *Labour, Green MP’s & Winston visit the Dotcom mansion over a period of time for reasons unknown.
    *Hager has strong ties to the Greens (hence why he also once did a political hit job on Helen Clark in 2002 over ‘Corngate’) and at some stage receives stolen data of Cam Slater’s communications.
    *Matt McCarten is appointed by Labour and has strong ties to Mana (and therefore Internet Mana – Dotcom).
    *Dotcom appoints Laila Harre as his Internet party leader – her previous role to this was working for the Green Party.
    *Bradbury alludes on the Daily Blog to something ‘big’ coming that will shake up the election so is obviously tipped off in advance by person/s unknown. He has ties to Internet/Mana & Dotcom.
    *Labour unveil what appears on the surface to be a bizarre & relatively meaningless election slogan ‘Vote positive’. This only makes sense once Hager’s ‘Dirty Politics’ book comes out much later on. Labour ‘tipped off’ about hacking/book?
    *’Dirty Politics’ book rushed out in an attempt to maximise damage to National prior to the election. Move spectacularly backfires as most people see through the political hit job and vote en masse for a right-wing govt.

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    • A good summary of many possible connections, but it misses a couple that have also been mentioned.

      One is that the hack was largely utu from a hacker for Slater’s attack on West Coast ‘ferals’.

      Or that it was an inside job, someone with knowledge of and access to Slater’s data.

      Slater has attacked and annoyed and shat on many people, including some who have tried to help him. There’s a lot of people who might have wanted to deal to him.

      As Rachinger said. ‘I am Rawshark’ may be literally true of only one or a small number of people, but quite a few more would have felt some empathy for hitting back against a political and social bully (who whimpers when the other foot is putting the boot in).

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      • Pantsdownbrown

         /  3rd April 2016

        PG: “One is that the hack was largely utu from a hacker for Slater’s attack on West Coast ‘ferals”.

        No evidence this was the reason – appears to be a red herring.

        PG: “Or that it was an inside job, someone with knowledge of and access to Slater’s data”.

        Always possible – but with the site collapsing for a few days it appears to be an outside job.

        PG: “Slater has attacked and annoyed and shat on many people, including some who have tried to help him. There’s a lot of people who might have wanted to deal to him”.

        Perhaps – but ‘Dirty Politics’ was Hager’s way of trying to get at/smear John Key/National by association – Slater wasn’t the main purpose of the book, simply a by-product of it.

        I don’t believe Ben had anything to do with it as it was too professional, not ‘amateur hour’.

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        • “No evidence this was the reason – appears to be a red herring.”

          No evidence it wasn’t, and no evidence it was anyone else, so it’s no more a red herring than anything else. I think it’s just as credible a reason – the way Slater operated it was inevitable that some one would one day have a go at exposing him.

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          • Pantsdownbrown

             /  3rd April 2016

            Well you have Rawshark’s own words (of being against ‘dirty politics’ in this country) as to why they did it;

            “Rawshark said he was not motivated by political leanings but by “ratf***ers”– a term from the Watergate scandal to describe those alleged of manipulating the political system”.

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    • Wrong on so many counts.

      I tweeted the article that SB is referring to only a day ago. They like to watch my Twitter and SB (under the handle @cadlow) likes to stalk my mentions. But I don’t expect you to know that.

      SB is implying that I am the hacker and that Kim Dotcom paid me for the job. She’s also implying that Hager didn’t know he only got an edited dump… Interesting. A move away from Hager as the bad guy and back to bashing Kim Dotcom? Slater is a coward for getting his wife to do all his dirty work online. An absolute bullying, snivelling, facetious coward.

      Tony Lentino and you still yammering away about Kim, Cammy? Kim turned down the offer from Mitchell on Lentinos lawn because Kim shouldn’t have to make any deals to save Lentinos ass from the IRD Audit. End of.

      I see the WO article mentions their labour donors list hack. The police never pinged him for that did they? Ahhh. Protection. Wouldn’t it be nice 🙂

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      • Oliver

         /  3rd April 2016

        Are you the hacker?

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        • Clemgeopin

           /  3rd April 2016

          “Are you the hacker?”

          What kind of rude question is that, Oliver! Are you going to ask that question of all the 4.5 million people on NZ or indeed the 7 billion people in the world?

          By the way, have you stopped beating your wife? Yes or No?

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          • Iceberg

             /  3rd April 2016

            Actually it’s the only sensible question he has asked on this blog. Rachinger big notes about everything, but fronts with nothing.

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        • I like to think all lovers of truth, sunlight and freedom have a little Rawshark inside them.

          Important dates this month.

          Manukau Court
          15th April
          19th April
          20th April

          After these dates everything will be much, much clearer for y’all. I’ll be here much less until after those dates because I’m snowed under with legal work.

          I look forward to conversing with Kevin, Pantsdownbrown, Iceberg, Price and all the other sock puppets after the 20th. Indepth.

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          • Pantsdownbrown

             /  3rd April 2016

            Reminds me of Dotcoms ‘moment of truth’………

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            • Iceberg

               /  3rd April 2016

              Looks like you’ve reminded quite a few about the “Moment of Truth”

              Happy days.

            • Pantsdownbrown

               /  3rd April 2016

              If Rawshark was after ‘truth’ then why didn’t he release the names of all the MSM journos that were involved with Slater and his associates that Hager said he would instead ‘give a 2nd chance’? What about all the opposition MP’s that had used Slater over that period for their own requirements?

              Hard for Rawshark to claim the high ground when he obviously withheld from public consumption portions of Slater’s communications that didn’t fit his agenda.

          • Oliver

             /  3rd April 2016

            I don’t think they will let you use the Internet in jail mate…especially if you’re the hacker. But dreams are free.

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          • Iceberg

             /  3rd April 2016

            This message will self destruct in 5 seconds…

            Who are you, Tom Cruise?

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            • Oliver

               /  3rd April 2016

              He’s NZ Snowdon or Julian Assange. The anti – spy.

          • In this yet-another-installment of “Hi, My Name’s Ben, and Everything Is All About Me”, who am I a sock-puppet for, Ben?

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      • Kevin

         /  3rd April 2016

        “SB is implying that I am the hacker and that Kim Dotcom paid me for the job.”

        FFS she’s doing no such thing. And considering you’re all talk and no substance you couldn’t possibly be the hacker. Ok, I know you and Slater had a “business” relationship and Slater took you under his wing so it is conceivable that you could have guessed his gmail password (or he could have told you), but that’s as far as it goes.

        And if Dotcom is smart (and assuming he hired the hacker) he would’ve just hired some Russian off the Dark Net.

        In other words who the hacker was isn’t important. Who hired him is.

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      • Kevin

         /  3rd April 2016

        “I see the WO article mentions their labour donors list hack. The police never pinged him for that did they?”

        Wow, I never knew it was a crime to download publicly available data.

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  3. I don’t think Cam ever had any idea of who the hacker was. He had a list of suspects a mile long: people who had done him wrong, or people he’d wronged, or people he just didn’t like very much. Then that Rachinger kid got involved with him and the rest is history. An expensive history, as far as Cam was concerned.

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    • I think it’s fair to assume that if Slater had actual evidence of who hacked him then either he would have gone public with the evidence or he would have given the evidence to the police and they would have acted on it, or both.

      That he (nor Spanish bride) have come up with anything other than scatter gun accusations and implications and the police have given up the the investigation then it’s a good assumption there is not solid evidence – or Slater has evidence that he for some reason doesn’t want to reveal.

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      • Kevin

         /  3rd April 2016

        I think the circumstantial evidence that Dotcom is behind it is quite reasonable. Not enough for a criminal case, or even to win a civil case. But enough for one to form an honestly-held reasonable opinion.

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        • Oliver

           /  3rd April 2016

          “But enough for one to form an honestly-held reasonable opinion.”

          Opinions are like arses, everyone has got one. Which is why they carry little weight.

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          • Kevin

             /  3rd April 2016

            It matters in a defamation case when you’re using honestly held reasonable opinion as a defence.

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            • jamie

               /  3rd April 2016

              I have seen no evidence, circumstantial or otherwise, that Cameron Slater holds any of his opinions reasonably or honestly.

  4. artcroft

     /  3rd April 2016

    I’m still waiting for Slater to come good and reveal the “too horrible for words” allegations against [Cautionary edit – this is a legally sensitive topic right now. PG]. There’s also the allegations he made that a senior Nat MP was wife beating.

    See here https://yournz.org/2014/12/21/caution-serious-slater-allegations/

    But just nothing. Could it be that he’s full of s**t?

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    • Nelly Smickers

       /  3rd April 2016

      Interesting YNZ link there artcroft, right back to 2014 XD

      Great to see some of the same commenters are still alive and kicking on here!

      Although aven’t heard from ‘Mike C’ for a while…..wonder what’s happened to him?

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      • artcroft

         /  3rd April 2016

        Interesting also that 2016 version gets a cautionary edit (understandable) while the 2014 version lets it all hang out. The joys of the interweb.

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      • Kevin

         /  3rd April 2016

        Mike C has been hanging out on The Standard.

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