Open Forum – Friday

15 April 2016

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  1. Missy

     /  15th April 2016

    Poppy Day in NZ today. Well done, and good luck, to all the volunteers. I hope the weather is good for them, nothing worse than collecting in the rain.

    Anzac Day prep is gearing up in London, it will be a full on day, but I should manage to make the three main services (Dawn, Cenotaph and Westminster Abbey).

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  2. Problems with Parliament’s Cabinet Manual…

    Circular reasoning, a casual treatment of democracy, and some assertions that are just plain wrong.

    Link

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  3. Missy

     /  15th April 2016

    I know a lot has been written about tax over the last week or so, but something occurred to me that I thought should be raised. Do the Greens and Labour support Greenpeace being classified as a charity, even though it is clear they are a political lobby group? My understanding is that Greenpeace wish to remain a charity because of the tax free status – essentially to avoid paying tax. Surely if labour and the greens support this they can’t criticise others for wanting to do what they can within the law to avoid tax? Just a thought…

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    • Gezza

       /  15th April 2016

      That’s an interesting question. Are they well-funded by any particular groups of powerful industries?

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      • Gezza

         /  15th April 2016

        “Greenpeace is the largest environmental organization in the world, with an international membership of over 3 million and offices in over 40 countries. Forbes magazine once described it as “a skillfully managed business” with full command of “the tools of direct mail and image manipulation — and tactics that would bring instant condemnation if practiced by a for-profit corporation.” But Greenpeace has escaped public censure by hiding behind the mask of its “non-profit” status and its U.S. tax exemption. In other countries, however, Greenpeace has not been as lucky: Both Canada and New Zealand have revoked the organization’s non-profit status, noting that the group’s overly politicized agenda no longer has any “public benefit.”

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      • Missy

         /  15th April 2016

        What is their funding got to do with it. Despite the court ruling Greenpeace are a group that fought for charitable status in order to avoid tax – and they are supported by two parties that are criticising other people / companies for also taking legal measures to avoid tax.

        This is not a go at Greenpeace, but shows once again the inconsistencies in the opposition.

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  4. Bob

     /  15th April 2016

    Pssst… I hear that the ‘jurnolist’ that broke the RB embargo has a mechanic who’s brothers farther in laws cats vets cousin once found a US dollar on the footpath, this clearly makes him a evil currency trading criminal and he must resign, be charged, hung drawn and quartered immediately along with that very shady cat that was once seen talking to a dog! A dog I telll you!! Where is Paddy’s breathless report? Why have the greens not called for an inquiry? When will labour launch a petition? I want action!!

    Oh right its a member of the media ‘elite’ who are always right and don’t have to follow pesky laws, no matter what they say, no matter what they do they just cannot possibly be wrong!

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    • Dougal

       /  15th April 2016

      Not unlike the illegal procurement of a firearm…Oh but they were just testing the system and all for the good of the people!

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  5. It’s tantamount to, or could be construed as a form of Insider Trading.

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  6. Is Amadiyya Islam closer to true Islam than “orthodox” Islam? Probably yes.

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  7. Traveller

     /  15th April 2016

    Picky refugees????

    “PICKY refugees at an asylum centre in Germany have caused outrage among local politicians by refusing to eat the free food they are served claiming it makes them “sick.”

    More than 60 male migrants at the camp set up in truck containers in Offenburg have been boycotting the dining hall on the premises for over a week, bringing in their own food from outside to prepare.

    Now they are demanding kitchens to prepare the food in as well as extra cash to buy it – something local authorities have flatly rejected.

    They say that the catering firm contracted to prepare meals for the migrants is highly professional and aware of the different dietary rules and needs of the different nationalities living in the camp situated on a ring road of the city.

    More than 60 male migrants at the camp set up in truck containers in Offenburg have been boycotting the dining hall on the premises for over a week, bringing in their own food from outside to prepare.

    Now they are demanding kitchens to prepare the food in as well as extra cash to buy it – something local authorities have flatly rejected.

    They say that the catering firm contracted to prepare meals for the migrants is highly professional and aware of the different dietary rules and needs of the different nationalities living in the camp situated on a ring road of the city.

    The taxpayer funded camp has contracted a catering firm to feed the refugees
    Pakistani refugee Qazi Shahid Shad to a local newspaper: “We do not tolerate the food, it is not our homeland food and sickens us.

    We want other food – or we will die
    Qazi Shahid Shad
    “We want other food – or we will die. Cooking is of extreme social importance to us, it is the only time when there is no dispute between the different groups in the camp.

    “We should be given more money to buy the food we want.”

    The news of seemingly ungrateful newcomers demanding both cash and kitchens has played into the hands of refugee opponents who branded them “grasping” on a social media site.
    The local authority has totally rejected giving into any of their demands and said most of those who claimed that the food made them ill had not even bothered to try it.

    Men from Pakistan, India and Gambia make up the population of the camp.

    Pakistani Muhammad Ayub Afridi said: “All have joined the protest.”

    At the same time he stressed: “We are happy and grateful to live in Germany. He said he grew up in a tribal area in Pakistan where he had suffered from poor living conditions and everyday violence.”

    Kai Hockenjos, a spokesman of the local authority responsible for refugee welfare, said: “This is hospitality being trampled upon.

    “We find this protest incomprehensible and disappointing.

    “Only this week there was a lamb stew on offer every bit as spicy and tasty as that which is made in the countries of origin of the migrants.”

    He ruled out any changes to the policy saying no-one would starve and that the boycott “was not a hunger strike” because those refusing to eat canteen food were using their pocket money – around 115 pounds per month, paid for by the German taxpayer – to buy their own rations.

    Social workers and refugee workers were talking with the protestors until late on Wednesday without reaching a compromise.

    But the camp operators said that a handful of protestors were now eating again in the communal canteen.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/661024/migrants-eu-pakistani-germany-turn-down-free-food-taxpayers-money

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  8. Klik Bate

     /  15th April 2016

    This sounds like it could be an ideal opportunity for British entre’preneur Mahbub Chowdhury, to look at setting up a franchise for his ‘YEAHA’ Restaurants in Germany…..

    http://www.barenakedislam.com/2016/04/13/muslim-chef-prepared-food-after-wiping-his-ass-with-his-bare-hands-as-he-doesnt-use-toilet-paper-for-islamic-cultural-reasons/

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  9. I see that the EU countries are concerned about a possible British Exit (ie BREXIT) and the economic consequences of such a move. I have watched the development of UK attitudes, to BREXIT and believe on balance that it ls more likely to happen than not. I have also wondered what a BREXIT means to New Zealand. I would like to read what your thoughts are on both wheter it will happen as well as thoughts on what a brexit will mean to NZ?

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    • I have no idea really.

      There’s a lot of ‘ifs’ in all this.

      If Britain does exit the EU and if they face trade embargoes ( highly unlikely) from Europe then there is a possibility they may seek closer alliances with NZ, Au, India, Canada and the old Commonwealth crew. This could have an beneficial influence on our trade, but I’m not certain. As far as our traditional under 30 working visa access goes it would take years to reverse, but if millions of EU citizens are unable to enter/work/are denied the generous benefits in Britain, which results in British labour shortages, maybe we will see more Kiwis and Aussies heading there for longer, on better terms, a brain drain of sorts and that could have an effect on our productivity here. However, that said there are plenty of people worldwide who’d love to step in here and one thing I am picking is that NZ/Au may see Europeans as nations clamber to escape the increasing Islamification as they feel migration/refugee intakes and concessions overwhelm them. There’s no doubt that the advent ofa truly global marketplace has changed the face of the world as we know it, and as the mobility and choices of the well-educated and aspirational increase Brexit would probably just be a small factor here.

      In Britain the consequences will be far reaching and complex. Were I voting however it would be a LEAVE vote for me.

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  10. Zedd

     /  15th April 2016

    Parliament in recess until 3/5.. we can all get some sleep 🙂

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