EU referendum in Britain

Missy has some interesting information on the ‘Brexit’ European Union referendum in Britain.

A couple of interesting developments today in the EU referendum in Britain.
First, expats living in Europe went to court to try and be allowed to vote, in the UK if you have lived outside of Britain for more than 15 years you can’t vote in elections, but a whole lot of expats in Europe – some who have been there for more than 30 years – want to be able to vote in the election, however, the court has ruled that they can’t. They are now taking it to the Supreme court. It will be interesting to see how this goes.

British expats lose legal battle for right to vote in EU referendum

Second, the latest Yougov poll has shown that Obama has failed to swing Brits to the remain camp, and the out vote has taken a slight lead. One other recent poll has the out vote slightly ahead, whilst another has the in vote with a slight lead, interestingly the betting odds are favouring the UK to remain in Europe. Interesting times.

Obama fails to swing Britain behind EU as ‘Out’ takes poll lead

  • Out 42% (up 3)
  • In 41% (up 1)

Opponents of Britain’s European Union membership have edged into the lead over the past two weeks, according to a YouGov poll which indicated President Barack Obama’s intervention failed to swing support behind “In” vote in a June 23 referendum.

The online survey for The Times taken on April 25-26 showed support for the Out campaign had risen 3 percentage points to 42 percent since a similar survey on April 12-14, while support for the “In” campaign had risen 1 percentage point to 41 percent.

10 Comments

  1. Missy

     /  29th April 2016

    Thanks for the post Pete, I realise not everyone is interested in this, though I think the result could have some long term (if not short term) impacts on NZ.

    It is very interesting to watch this process from within, and to see and hear the arguments, not just in the media, but from the people on the street so to speak, overhearing conversations on the train, or listening to some at work.

    The bit that struck me with the situation of the expats is how long they can be out of the country but still able to vote, in NZ if you leave the country for more than 3 years you are unable to vote, I am not sure what it is for other countries. Even more interesting is the difference with the UK as a whole, and the Scotland referendum where no Scots outside Scotland were allowed to vote – even those living in other parts of the UK.

    • They would be retarded to leave in my opinion, lots of people seem to think it will be the return of the empire, they have more clout leading the EU by the nose than on the outside. If they are not happy with the EU, try to fix it.

      • Missy

         /  29th April 2016

        Tell me Shane, how do the UK try to fix the bureaucracy of the EU when the EU reject any changes. It is not a majority ruled organisation, from what I understand from news reports this year, any changes to the EU as an organisation has to be agreed to by all countries. The UK has no power within the EU, which was aptly demonstrated earlier this year when Cameron tried to re-negotiate aspects of the agreement, and bring in some changes EU wide, his proposals were watered down so much they are essentially ineffectual. The EU will not change as long as the status quo remains. It is controlled by mainland Europe countries, and more and more the newer members from Eastern Europe, and very soon Turkey will have free movement in place. It is an organisation that is working towards a federal states of Europe controlled by a few from Brussels, this works to the advantage of poorer countries in Eastern Europe, and for the expansionist Germany and France, but for the UK it doesn’t, their interests are increasingly moving away from the interests in Europe.

        Oh, and for the record, most do not believe it will be the return of the empire, that is a rubbish statement.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  29th April 2016

      That’s a bit rough about the Scots in the UK !

      • Missy

         /  29th April 2016

        Yep. I was working with a Scot in NZ at the time, and he was saying how some of his friends in England weren’t able to vote in the referendum, despite they would be affected, and were eligible to vote in the Scottish Parliament.

  2. Zedd

     /  29th April 2016

    I would prefer that UK remain in the EU.. because I also hold a UK/EU passport & its so much easier to travel (no visas) in Europe. This may change, if UK leave ?

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  29th April 2016

      I have one-I hadn’t thought of that. But I have had an NZ one too, so it wouldn’t make any difference in that way.

      If the law is that expats can’t vote after 15 years, too bad-they must have known this before.

      Does anyone remember Nelson Mandela’s ex-pat ‘niece’ in NZbeing the first to vote in the new SA elections ? There she was on the news, doing it and being interviewed. The free publicity was a real mistake, though, as she was recognised and outed as being no more his niece than I am. Oops. I know someone like that. who claims family connections that she doesn’t have, and can’t understand why anyone would do it-to me, the shame of being outed wouldn’t be worth it !

    • Missy

       /  29th April 2016

      I am 5th generation Kiwi, I would rather they leave as this could mean a move towards less erosion of the rights of Commonwealth citizens in the UK. But yeah, I can see your point Zedd, for those with a UK / EU passport it could be easier to move. But also note that some countries in Europe are talking about bringing back border controls anyway, so whether or not the UK remains in a few years if things keep going they way they are, there is a possibility that there won’t be the level of free movement there is now.

      • Zedd

         /  29th April 2016

        my Aunt in Yorkshire says that many in UK, want to leave because many of the ‘refugees’ flooding into EU are either heading for France, Germany & UK (to get work).. with UK being probably the main target ?
        There is a party called UKIP (UK Independence party) who are apparently rising in many polls.. so it could go either way. BUT the Scots also thought that, in a recent vote to split from Britain.. didn’t happen :/

  3. Simond

     /  29th April 2016

    Madness to leave. Currently they get most of the benefits and avoid the costs, specifically the euro and Shengen.