Marvelling at ‘middle New Zealand’

It is sometimes claimed that New Zealand is Middle Earth, but the term ‘middle new Zealand is increasingly being used.

I think I could be from ‘middle new Zealand’ in some ways, I’m somewhere around average income and my political beliefs are sort of centrist and have straddled left and right.

But it’s not a pigeon hole. Pigeons fly in all directions.

Lizzie Marvelly asks: Middle NZ: Just what does it mean?

Middle New Zealand. I can’t get my head around it. I’ve spent the week having an identity crisis. What on Earth is middle New Zealand? Am I part of it? Or am I lower, higher, further to the right or further to the left of it?

The use of the word “middle” suggests that middle New Zealand denotes the majority, the average, the cluster that represents the most of us – but if I’m to believe what Mike Hosking says, that cluster does not include me.

Recently, Seven Sharp broadcast a segment about the New Plymouth Mayor, Andrew Judd. Mayor Judd has decided he won’t seek re-election. Why? Because of the abuse he and his family have been forced to endure since he began to call for Maori representation in New Plymouth.

It’s nasty stuff. Understandably, Mayor Judd has had enough of it. The kinds of attitudes displayed in the Seven Sharp clip belonged in the 1960s, I thought as I watched it. Then Mike Hosking weighed in.

“He’s completely out of touch with middle New Zealand,” Hosking said, adding there was “nothing wrong with Maori representation on councils” because “if you’re good enough you’ll get voted on”. His comments are now the subject of a formal complaint made to TVNZ.

I have no doubt many people will agree with Hosking. They may well be the “middle New Zealand” he’s talking about.

That’s a very odd leap.

Equating “many people” who might agree with Hosking on a single issue with a very general “middle New Zealand” makes no sense.

I don’t often agree with Hosking – I don’t listen to what he says much, he’s not someone I look to for opinion.

I’m not sure whether it’s my age, whakapapa or abhorrence of racism that excludes me, but evidently middle New Zealand I am not.

Evidently Marvelly disagrees with Hosking on this but he isn’t an authority on what constitutes ‘middle New Zealand’. And neither is Marvelly.

If Hosking had said “he’s completely out of touch with New Zealanders” (similar to the way a number of politicians speak) would that provoke Marvelly into stating ‘evidently New Zealander I am not’?

Marvelly goes on to discuss ‘white privilege’ but that’s worth a post of it’s own sometime.

What is ‘middle New Zealand’ apart from a sign of growing obesity?

It seems to be nothing more than a generalised term used by people in the Beehive bubble, which is located approximately in the middle of New Zealand but seems increasingly out of touch with the diverse views of New Zealanders.

Message to Lizzie – even though I may have fairly average views on many things (but far from all things) what Mike Hosking (an Auckland media mouth) says is not representative of my views from southern New Zealand.

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19 Comments

  1. Pantsdownbrown

     /  15th May 2016

    Lizzie Marvelly: “abhorrence of racism”

    I don’t particularly like Hosking but this is where people like Lizzie are dead wrong.

    Nothing in what Hosking said was racist – to suggest so in such instances is just going to make people switch off and be less like to react to actual acts of racism.

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    • Hall

       /  15th May 2016

      It was clearly racist he was implying that Maori aren’t good enough. The problem is that many white New Zealanders don’t know what racism is, and wouldn’t be able to recognise it even if they wanted to. But Maori are definitely stereotyped by white Kiwis as not being as good as a white person. It’s similar to a mans attitude towards women, many men believe they’re superior to women. Racism is pretty bad in NZ but having traveled the world I can say that racism is a world wide problem.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  15th May 2016

        More drivelling generalisations from Halliver. He stereotypes the people he complains are using stereotypes. What about all the mixed marriages ? One minute he’s saying that Pakehas are racist, then that they would not recognise racism. It’s a pity that computers don’t have sensecheck.

        I am amazed that with all his careers he has had time to travel the world.

        There are Maori school heads, for goodness sake-people who are not as good aren’t given that sort of position.

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      • Pantsdownbrown

         /  15th May 2016

        Oliver: “It was clearly racist he was implying that Maori aren’t good enough”.

        You obviously can’t comprehend English – he said Maori were good enough to get on the council under their own steam.

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  2. Blazer

     /  15th May 2016

    ‘middle NZ ‘is a vague concept favoured by politicians to reinforce their positions and to assuage minority concerns.It has various guises,like Blairs ‘Mondeo man’ but is quite meaningless,a bit like the views of a smug,arrogant little toot like…..

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    • Pantsdownbrown

       /  15th May 2016

      ……..Blazer. (finished your sentence for you – no thanks required)

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  3. Gezza

     /  15th May 2016

    Middle New Zealand is Welly. We in Welly mostly think Mike Hosking is the end result of early in-vitro fertilisation experiment that went wrong.

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    • Blazer

       /  15th May 2016

      certainly ended up…Right…though!

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      • Gezza

         /  15th May 2016

        To be honest I wouldn’t know Blazer, whenever he comes on on the radio I change the station, and when he comes on on the telly, I switch it off. I thought everybody did.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  15th May 2016

          I can’t stand him, either-he looks so damned supercilious.

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  4. David

     /  15th May 2016

    “Recently, Seven Sharp broadcast a segment about the New Plymouth Mayor, Andrew Judd. Mayor Judd has decided he won’t seek re-election. Why? Because of the abuse he and his family have been forced to endure since he began to call for Maori representation in New Plymouth.”

    That’s fairly misleading. His idea of calling for Maori representation was to try and create a racially segregated electoral system. No surprise that many people find that offensive.

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    • Indeed – Judd tried to force a concept on the people of New Plymouth they didn’t want. And cope a verbal or two. But that is politics, its why you need self belief and a tough hide to operate as a politician.

      Marvelly has tried to portray Judd as a victim – when he is far from it. The whole claim to victimhood status is a key tactic of the Left

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  5. Corky

     /  15th May 2016

    “His comments are now the subject of a formal complaint made to TVNZ”

    Yep, its offical folks. 1984 is upon us. I would love to see a photo and bio of the complainant. I have a mental picture in my mind already.

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    • Gezza

       /  15th May 2016

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      • Corky

         /  15th May 2016

        That has me wondering. It must be hard working with Mikey every night.
        Hold on, she’s a Taranaki farm girl. So she would agree with Mike.
        Then again, columnist Bruce Bisset says there is racist guilt over land confiscation in the Taranaki area amongst white settler families. So maybe she is trying to atone.
        Then again…?

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        • Gezza

           /  15th May 2016

          Obviously there are not too many white settler families overcome with guilt over the land confiscations, from the reactions Judd got, Corky. Just as well our Government has recognised how guilty earlier governments were for the confiscations though & gone some considerable way to atone for it with the Taranaki Settlement. Some of the most disgraceful doings of early European New Zealand settler history.

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  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  15th May 2016

    Middle NZ sits between the pukes and the gnomes like you, Gezza. Generally it doesn’t like racial discrimination of any kind which is how it would see Judd’s campaign. I think Hosking was right.

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    • Gezza

       /  15th May 2016

      Can you call them pookies or pukekos please Alan? I’ve done my best to avoid using rabid righties for some weeks now. I’m starting to feel slightly green about the gills every time you post about people in the centre.

      Mike Hosking is right alright. That’s what’s upsetting some people, he’s so far right he topples over the edge sometimes. I suspect he believes his shit doesn’t smell. But whatever, I still think he’s a failed biology experiment in skinny jeans.

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      • Gezza

         /  15th May 2016

        Also, are you calling me gnome? Is it the avatar? Do I need to get a bigger warrior?

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