Turei’s speech

Metiria Turei is a far more accomplished and effective communicator than James Shaw and Andrew Little. She actually has the Green crowd buzzing with her AGM keynote speech.

Her big announcement is a Clean Rivers policy that she wants a ‘Green Government’ to implement, to clean up the rivers and waterways so they are safe for swimming.

I have no argument with the ideals of this, and most people would probably agree in principal. But whether there are practical ways of cleaning up waterways faster is more questionable.

For all her appeal to the converted she will have trouble appealing to a wider audience with her over the top ‘National does not care!’ and ‘do bugger all’ and ‘they are so terrible for this country’ rhetoric.

I’ve watched Turei’s speech live on Facebook, 70-80 viewers isn’t many.

I was going to post the transcript here but there hasn’t been one posted on the Green website. Perhaps we aren’t getting one.

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  1. Gezza

     /  5th June 2016

    I guess the sign language translators aren’t allowed to clap just in case something completely unintended is taken from it.

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    • Pete Kane

       /  5th June 2016

      I couldn’t believe the (and only ‘moderately’ subtle) umbrage, no too strong, dismissiveness of the poor old sign language people at the Green conference, as was expressed here last night.

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      • Gezza

         /  5th June 2016

        I was a bit surprised and disappointed, must admit. Expected better.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  5th June 2016

      Umbrage ? Hardly the right word. But it does seem to be a feel-good thing, and as the odds against anyone being there who needs it are very high, it’s a bit PC and patronising. The number of people who use it is minuscule. I read of one signer who walked out of a conference when he discovered that there were no deaf people there, and that the organisers had known this, saying that he hadn’t done all that training to waste his time making people feel good about themselves. Why not ask if there’s anyone who needs it and either do it or not accordingly ? This isn’t a case of a national emergency when it would be justified.

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      • Pete Kane

         /  5th June 2016

        I’ll put money on it the person carrying out the sign language was a member already there and with a live stream audience of who knows who. I almost said it was a reaction to the PC ‘issue’. But what the heck, their conference – and Act, NZ First or my family not asked to commit a penny. Their issue, their choice – good libertarian values.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  5th June 2016

        Is there any point in translating everything into it if there’s nobody in the room who even knows it, let alone has it as their only language ? Anyone who’s not there can read the speeches online. As we only saw a little bit of them on the news, deaf people would have been little the wiser-and as the news doesn’t have it, any deaf person watching it would either have subtitles or lipread what was being said. It may make the Greens feel PC and inclusive, but that’s about all it would have done. Do they transcribe everything into Braillle for blind people who cannot read anything else ? There’d be a lot more point.

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        • J Bloggs

           /  5th June 2016

          I presume Mojo Mathers was there

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        • Gezza

           /  5th June 2016

          Kitty did you read my comment after yours yesterday explaining why it is so disappointing to hear you trashing deaf people in this manner?

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        • jamie

           /  6th June 2016

          Too right, Kitty.

          And why do they bother having all those disabled parking spaces? Hardly anyone is disabled compared to the amount of non-disabled people but I don’t see any special parking spaces just for the non-disabled, even though those would obviously get used a lot more.

          Most shops probably don’t even appeal to disabled people, they all sell cheap rubbish these days. I remember hearing about someone who saw something about someone who made up a story about a disabled lady who had never even been to her local supermarket, yet it still had disabled parking spaces out front.

          If people haven’t got legs or eyes then they probably aren’t driving anyway.

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  2. Gezza

     /  5th June 2016

    Right. I’ve had a look and a listen. She’s a bit shrill at times. It’s all a bit “student president speech to the girls’ school assembly” stuff. Cutesy, more than making we want to go out and let down the tyres on Ministerial limousines. I got the thing about the rivers. But so does Andrew. I think we need to be hearing more from James.

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    • Pete Kane

       /  5th June 2016

      Yea, ‘stylistically’, not really my cup of tea I must admit.

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      • But the converted seem to love it.

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        • Gezza

           /  5th June 2016

          It’s school holiday for the long weekend Pete.

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        • PDB

           /  5th June 2016

          You could’ve have had a vegetarian sausage roll up on stage and it would have got a standing ovation from that mob.

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          • Gezza

             /  5th June 2016

            If it was being worn by that Katie Hopkins *bestie* of Nelly’s from London, I’d have been there on my feet & cheering PDB.

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          • Blazer

             /  5th June 2016

            you shoulda walked on !

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  3. Pete Kane

     /  5th June 2016

    “Brent Budowsky – The Campaign from Hell”

    Didn’t agree with it all but one of the better accounts run on RNZ.
    The operations (and people) chosen to comment on Morning Report, Nine to Noon and The Panel have just been unbelievably bad – and I don’t mean because they disagree with me but because of factual errors, balance (in the journalistic sense) and a poor understanding of the electoral system technically – 101 failure RNZ daily team.

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/sunday/audio/201803377/brent-budowsky-the-campaign-from-hell

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    • Pete Kane

       /  5th June 2016

      Sorry, sorry this should only be on Media (which it is) but not here. Hope Pete can remove.

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  4. Brown

     /  5th June 2016

    I watched a bit of news last night and saw the crowd. They looked typical old un-washed hippie so anyone spouting leftie nonsense would get an ovation – as did Little. I think the Green problem is simple – there’s no critical analysis of what is sensible and what is just unrealistic in an industrial economy that has to compete with other countries who are more pragmatic. There’s no detailed policy or costings, just stupid slogans. That so many people think they can govern with that complete lack of substance is scary.

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    • The thing is that I don’t think that many people are comfortable with them close to governing. Happy with them as environmental and social advocates but no more than that.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  5th June 2016

        i may be doing them a gross injustice, but they do seem to be unaware that there’s a limit to the amount of money that any government has.

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        • Gezza

           /  5th June 2016

          No I don’t think that’s a gross injustice Kitty. They don’t really come across as having any idea how they will pay for some of their ideas – more just like a pressure group.

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  5. Blazer

     /  5th June 2016

    Meteria is a wonderful person ,the type of person who would impress anyone who took the time to engage with her.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  5th June 2016

      And has achieved what?

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      • Blazer

         /  5th June 2016

        she is co leader of a party which 10-15% of voters like.The best is yet to come.Remember Key was just a successful forex gambler in a rigged game before he was shoulder tapped and marketed as a kiwi success story to become P.M.

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        • Gezza

           /  5th June 2016

          I’m surprised at how “girly” she comes across in that speech above Blazer. But to be fair she’s got a lot more grunt in Parliament and in media interviews. We do need to see and hear more from James Shaw. They’ve lost an excellent co-leader in Russel Norman (once we got over the Tibet flag-waving mistake).

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          • Blazer

             /  5th June 2016

            Norman is a huge loss..he could win a debate against any of the present incumbents from any party.So sad to see him go.

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            • Brown

               /  6th June 2016

              Nope. Norman was a loser without appeal to rational people, good riddance. I hate the idea of list MP’s – it opens up the trough to career troughers no one would actually vote for. That’s not democracy – you should have to win a seat to represent anything.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  6th June 2016

          So is Winston. I rank them both on a par with Bishop Tamaki.

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          • Gezza

             /  6th June 2016

            It’s a pretty low blow ranking anyone on a par with the bish Al. The only lower blow you could strike there would be ranking them with Hannah.

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  6. I am still bemused at the strident claims being made about our environment, our social conditions, our health and education system, our housing provisions, our levels of prosperity when all external measures place us as above average, and amongst the leading nations in the globe comparatively. I really feel sorry for those who preach a depressing gospel about the state of New Zealand. Yes, there is room for improvement and we should approach that within the resources we have available to do it. To continually blame the Government for lack of action is to ignore the reality that they have to balance the demands they place on the tax and rate payers with the need to keep the economy running at the appropriate pace. Why do they blame the Government when it is fact the people who decide the pace of progress and they pay for it, not the Government – whatever hue that is. The Green call for a moratorium on Dairying is shooting our real wealth production in the foot. We need to create real wealth, not print more money or chase further private and public debt. Think about it.

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    • Geez, did I fart or something? What killed that stream of unconciousness?

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    • PDB

       /  6th June 2016

      The lack of detail in anything Labour and the Greens mention is a joke: “Eliminate child poverty’, ‘make all our rivers swimmable’, ‘eliminate homelessness’ ‘make homes affordable to all’ – how and at what cost?

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