All this technology is making us antisocial

Via The Dipster @nzthink

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This has been expressed in many ways before. Like:

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“Anyone have plans to stare at their phones someplace exciting this weekend?”

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  1. Kitty Catkin

     /  12th June 2016

    The 1984 children would have had computer games like Atari (1970s) and ‘spacies’. (and Walkmans ?) Even then there were complaints that people were spending all their spare time on that sort of thing. Even phones could be said to be antisocial, as anyone using one is only talking to one other person. When radios became common, some people complained that everyone was sitting listening to these and not talking to each other. and it was the same with television. And portable record players. And…..

    It’s rather sweet, in a way, to see a young couple hand in hand, sharing a pair of earbuds-one in one of his ears, one in one of hers.

    But I do hate seeing parents gazing at phones and/or with earphones on. Can’t they go without music for the time that they’re out with their children ? Is texting everyone they know more important than their children, even more important than their safety ?

    There’s no supply without demand, of course. If nobody wanted these selfish, antisocial devices, there’d be no market for them. There’s a room reserved in Hell for the git who invented those portable speakers and the mini (except for volume) descendants of the boom boxes-these were extremely antisocial in their day, but had the great virtue of being unwieldy and expensive so were not as common as their descendants. The people who had those must be hitting 60 now.

    Remember those tiny televisions that people could carry around ? Spare me.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  12th June 2016

      You are good at putting the latest moral panic into historical perspective, Kitty. More power to your keyboard (or touch screen).

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  12th June 2016

        Keyboard.

        Is there anything more maddening than having to peer around the devices of those in front who are recording an event (and does anyone ever look at these again) and who make sure that nobody can see anything except their hands and screen ?

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        • It often seems to be missing the moment trying to capture the moment.

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          • Gezza

             /  12th June 2016

            Is there anything more maddening than having to peer around the devices of those in front who are recording an event
            Yes. Listening to David Shearer answer questions from reporters when he was Labour’s leader.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  12th June 2016

              Yes-but he wasn’t blocking your view at a concert when he did it 😀

              I totally agree, Pete.

  2. patupaiarehe

     /  12th June 2016

    I beg to differ. I think texting your wife/friend while on public transport, or using social media, is far more sociable than reading the paper. It is just a new way of ignoring people you don’t know in public, which has been going on ever since mankind started living together in large numbers.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  12th June 2016

      That’s one of the points that I was making. this has always happened to some extent, human beings being what they are. But doing it when one is with other people-people whom one does know, together socially-is plain rude, just as sitting reading the paper or a book at a cafe table would be. Why bother to be with people if you’re going to ignore them ? I was once at a dinner where I was ignored, and it was awful. They were members of a committee, and although I knew almost all of them, they talked past and over me and it was impossible to join in. If it hadn’t been such a marvellous meal, I would have left. If this ever happened again, I would. I always carry a book in my handbag, after that I began carrying a tiny one even in the bag I was carrying when I went out for an evening in case I was ever in that situation again with people behaving so rudely.

      There’s a great difference between not talking to strangers whom one will never see again and behaving like this to friends and family-both of which have always gone on.

      Being treated as if one is invisble is terrible.

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      • patupaiarehe

         /  12th June 2016

        Fair enough Kitty, that sort of behaviour irritates me too.

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        • Gezza

           /  12th June 2016

          It’s never happened to me. They all know what would happen to their car tyres.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  12th June 2016

            I am delighted that more and more performers are demanding that people turn phones etc off, even stopping the show and coming to the front of the stage to do so.

            The selfishness off blocking the view of someone else is incredible, when that person has paid a lot of money to see the performance, not your screen.

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            • Gezza

               /  12th June 2016

              That Ginga runt, whatsisname who’s making a fortune and ft with everyone too, he got everybody to wave their cellphones around at his Wembly concert. All those thousands of lights looked amazing.

            • Gezza

               /  12th June 2016

              Ed Sheeran.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  12th June 2016

              Not the same thing, is it ? Imagine if they’d all been yakking on them, instead.

              I have twice heard this at funerals.

            • Gezza

               /  12th June 2016

              I’d be annoyed if the phone ringing was coming from inside the casket.

    • Gezza

       /  12th June 2016

      It’s the ones sitting next to you who keep ringing up banks and making bomb threats through their handkerchiefs that piss me off.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  12th June 2016

        What about ones like the two women at one of the MetLive Operas who had a large device each and used them-they paid $33 each for the privilege of doing this and spoiling the show for everyone else, especially those nearby. An old man politely but firmly asked them to to turn these off, and they did for a while, but began again. This time the request was louder (we all heard every word) and not quite so polite. They were scrolling down pictures, giggling and showing them to each other. Why pay $33 to do this in a cinema when they could do it outside for nothing ? They were neither of them very young-one was almost middle-aged, the other rather younger.

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        • Gezza

           /  12th June 2016

          Why didn’t you say something to them Kitty? If you just called out something rude a few times probably no one else would’ve dobbed you in to them.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  12th June 2016

            I was too far away. The old man wasn’t rude, but he made his (our) feelings known and had that note of authority that some people have ! I have asked people to turn devices off-they are really distracting-and asked them to stop talking in films. A simple, firm request that it be turned off/that the people stop talking because it’s distracting and spoiling the film tends to work. Why don’t people yak outside where they can do it for nothing ?

            People went up to the pld man afterwards. I still can’t understand why someone would pay $33 and not watch the show.

            I was once at a film with someone who’d seen it before and wouldn’t stop the running commentary and telling us what was about to happen. Aaaghhhh !

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            • Gezza

               /  12th June 2016

              Didn’t you have an old lippy or something like that in your purse you could’ve thrown at them? o_O

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  12th June 2016

              No, I carry makeup in my handbag. And I wouldn’t waste any lippy on these people. The old man had it well in hand. I’d have slunk out if I’d been them 🙂

            • Gezza

               /  12th June 2016

              I always grab a handful of those free BNZ pens whenever I go in there to complain about something. They don’t last long and there’s plenty more where they came from. They’re good for throwing at people if you’ve got nothing else handy when someone needs a missile to wake their ideas up.

  3. Brown

     /  12th June 2016

    I think the difference is that papers don’t talk back so if you wanted to engage with some one in the old days you did so with a person directly. Today the phone allows interaction with a virtual anything and enables us to pretend we are engaging when we are really cold, distant and self absorbed. We have always wanted what appears new and exciting but we often don’t have the self discipline to limit use to the best of it – we become fixated with the trivial nonsense. At a seminar a couple of years ago there was a lunchtime quizz where you could use smart phones. I was amazed that lots of young ‘uns (mid twenty year old professionals) couldn’t decide on a search parameter to find what was wanted. The world at your finger tips but no idea how to find it.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  12th June 2016

      Surely that would depend upon the questions-that’s too small a sample (one quiz) .Trying to decide on a search engine out of so many doesn’t mean ignorance of search engines and the world.

      I don’t want a lot of new devices-this is no virtue on my part, I just don’t happen to want these things when I have something that will do for my needs. Take me to a book fair, and it’s a different story.

      Try engaging in conversation with a stranger on the tube in London and see how you get on. Good luck to you,.If they’re reading a newspaper, you can forget it-or always could.

      By saying that ‘we’ are cold, distant etc, are you including yourself ? Some people are, most aren’t.

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      • Gezza

         /  12th June 2016

        I only just bought a micro USB to standard USB and figured out how to download pics from my phone to my laptop. I had to look it up on Google because the manual was useless.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  12th June 2016

          Some are, my backpack sprayer remains unassembled-it says to do something, but omits to say HOW, so that one comes to a dead end. The illustrations are useless. It would be like me telling that you just thread up the sewing machine and start sewing.

          Our Dell computer manual was worse than useless.

          My latest camera said to plug the cable into the camera, which I knew to do, but as it didn’t say that the battery compartment had to be opened first, I was unable to see where the cable was to be plugged in. Who’d know that the cable’s port was inside the battery compartment ? It’s a horribly fiddly thing, a tiny clip (for want of a better word) has to be tweaked back and the cover moved at the same time.

          Doesn’t anyone at the factory test the manuals ?

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  12th June 2016

            A firmly held up newspaper makes an exceptionally efficient barrier to any interaction, especially the large, non-tabloid size. The person is really behind a wall that only a very brave or desperate person would breach.

            I wonder that more people who cross the street, eyes on phone, aren’t squashed.

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            • Blazer

               /  12th June 2016

              just remember to cut eyeholes in it Kitty so you can see whats going on.

          • Gezza

             /  12th June 2016

            No. They don’t speak English.

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            • Gezza

               /  12th June 2016

              That one about not speaking English was a reply to your post above about do people at the factory read the manuals.

              Someone’s done some stats in the US that show people having all sorts of accidents including getting squashed by cars while looking at their cellphones or texting is on the rise.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  12th June 2016

              I thought that was a speciality of Wellington city buses?

            • patupaiarehe

               /  12th June 2016

              Squashing people Alan? I’m pretty sure most buses are capable of that..

            • Gezza

               /  12th June 2016

              Welly had a spate of pedestrian vs bus incidents a few years back pp. It was rough on the bus drivers. Utter headless chookery from pedestrians who just walked across the road without looking.

  4. Brown

     /  13th June 2016

    ”a spate of pedestrian vs bus incidents’

    Yep, including a bloke who was a top dog in the bus company. It would have been amusing had he not been completely smacked about and seriously injured.

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