Atkins promoting violence and intolerance

Having just posted about female involvement in domestic violence I came across this post by Spanish Bride at Whale Oil, where she is promoting extreme intolerance and violence in the wake of the Orlando gay nightclub massacre.

This is the sort of inflammatory rhetoric that can encourage nutters like the Orlander killer to perpetrate extreme violence.

This is disgraceful from a website that promotes itself as leading alternative media in New Zealand.

Face of the day

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Read what today’s face of the day Milo Yiannopoulos has to say about the Muslim terrorist massacre in Florida. Gays were targeted for death by the Muslim terrorist and Milo ( himself a gay man ) has some serious words for us all.

America has to make a choice. Does it want gay rights, women’s emancipation, and tolerance for people of all nonviolent faiths — or does it want Islam?

…So, most Muslims think I’m unacceptable. Fine. I also think their religion is unacceptable. And not just “radicals” and “extremists” — their entire, barbaric, backwards ideology. 100 million people live in Muslim countries where homosexuality is punishable by death.

We can’t go on like this. We can’t live in an America where gays fear going to night clubs, where satirists fear execution for their speech, where cartoonists consider whether their next drawing might get them killed.

Today’s killings prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that we need to give particular scrutiny to certain faiths. Gays, apostates, and women are tired of being abused, harassed, and murdered by followers of the “religion of peace.”

And politicians have to stop lying about the link between Islam and these horrific acts.

…The gay Establishment, run by far-left wackos, is of course part of the problem too. It constantly makes excuses for Islam instead of sticking up for the people it’s supposed to protect.

Wake up, faggots. The political Left is part of the problem.

-breitbart.com

Intentionally or not I think this encourages and promotes extreme violence as well as extreme religious intolerance, and it uses a tragedy to deliberately inflame.

New Zealand has to be much better than this.

Spanish Bride is Juana Atkins. Inflammatory speech and extreme violence and intolerance are as bad when promoted by women as it is when promoted by men.

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43 Comments

  1. The LGBT community provides political cover for the political and religious transvestites which inhabit the heart of the Evil Empire.

    http://henrymakow.com/2015/11/modern-turkey-a-secret-zionist.html

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  2. Corky

     /  14th June 2016

    “America has to make a choice. Does it want gay rights, women’s emancipation, and tolerance for people of all non-violent faiths — or does it want Islam?’

    “Wake up, faggots. The political Left is part of the problem.”

    You make a reasonable point, Pete. No doubt this rhetoric promotes extreme violence.
    But if we didn’t have Muslims in the Western world we wouldn’t have a problem.
    Donald Trump realises that and has promised to do something about it. What has Obama done? What will Clinton do? What will gay organisations do? What will Liberals do?

    Nothing.

    When gays support Islam. When the left don’t see a problem. When our democracy is twisted by Islam to their own advantage, it would seem to me only the Conservative Right are willing to stand up for our culture.

    The above two quotes say it all for me.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  14th June 2016

      Gay sex was illegal here and in many other countries until the 80s. Men could be imprisoned for having sex with each other behind closed doors in their homes. At one time they could be hanged for it.

      You give Islam in the West credit for too much power.

      There was a time-within living memory-when black men could be murdered for looking at a white woman in the US or when civil rights activists of both colours could be murdered for demanding that blacks be permitted to sit in the same cafes as whites. It was a crime for blacks and whites to marry. Blacks were not allowed to vote in all American states until the 1960s. I don’t think that America has too much to be proud of when it comes to democracy and civil rights.

      Non-violent faiths like the Westboro Baptists, I suppose-and the Waco Seventh Day Adventists and the Mormons who advocated ‘blood atonement’. But we don’t assume that all SDAs, Baptists and Mormons are like this.

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  3. Blazer

     /  14th June 2016

    ‘But if we didn’t have Muslims in the Western world we wouldn’t have a problem.’…this is absolutely laughable….throughout the history of human inter action ,there is conflict ,aggression and all the emotions of human nature inflicted upon each other.

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    • Corky

       /  14th June 2016

      Time for a bit more thought, Blazer.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  14th June 2016

        Yes, Blazer, we all know that both World Wars, the Holocaust, Stalin’s atrocities, Ceaoucescu’s reign of terror and Mussolini’s Fascisti were caused by Muslims-or had you forgotten this ? The Norwegian who shot 67 (?) young people and the one in Australia who did the mass shooting were Muslims, too, of course. Really, Blazer, read some history !!!

        The US school and university shootings, as well as the cinema one, were all done by Muslims, everyone knows that. Oh, wait…

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  4. PC

     /  14th June 2016

    I don’t see the promotion of violence, let alone the extreme variety, at all. All I see the promotion of self-defence. Oh, and I would never “submit” to the religion that goes by that word’s noun, simply because its practioners don’t like the look of me. It is a pity our politicians and media are big on submission and apeasement though, which of course is Milo’s point, to the expense of the rest of society.

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  5. duperez

     /  14th June 2016

    I believe Ms Atkins is/has been a teacher. I’m sure that site she uses has often questioned having rabid, mindless people in classes in front of young people.

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  6. My observation on all of this is its take a deep breath everyone, don’t feed the animals, tread softly and carry a big stick. There is too much noise around, time to think rationally without hate or prejudice, but be prepared to defend your freedoms.

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  7. Alan Wilkinson

     /  14th June 2016

    My opinion, FWIW, is

    Mental Illness/psychosis + Islam + ISIS => terrorist
    Terrorist + weapon supply => atrocity

    Solution: remove ISIS.

    I think only Trump will do this.

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    • Corky

       /  14th June 2016

      I love your maths Alan. And as my maths teacher use to pontificate: ” maths is pure logic.”
      Plain and simple.

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      • Gezza

         /  14th June 2016

        Remove ISIS, you still have Al Qaeda. You can’t remove Al Qaeda, their ideology isn’t about establishing a state like ISIS’s is. And you still have extreme religious intolerance from other followers of Islam in various predominantly Islamic countries.

        Fundamentalists in Islam won’t even tolerate other sects of their own faith, let alone other religions. It is possible to read the Quran and find it a completely peaceable book, and it is possible to read the Quran and find in it a justification for suppression of other faiths. Islam is a faith, a culture and a political ideology that preaches its own superiority. That’s where the problem begins.

        There is no universal Sharia law – there are milder and harsher versions. There are also no universal interpretations of the Quran & Hadiths. It is a religion that is open to exploitation by the hateful. Admittedly so is Christianity, but the reformation & developments in Western civil law over the past couple of Centuries have for the most part by now prevented the kind of sectarian killings that used to prevail in Christendom. The West in more recent times has been guilty of economic and military, rather than religious, conquests of other nations.

        The Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam (CDHRI) is a declaration of the member states of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference adopted in Cairo, Egypt, in 1990, which provides an overview on the Islamic perspective on human rights, and affirms Islamic sharia as its sole source. CDHRI declares its purpose to be “general guidance for Member States [of the OIC] in the field of human rights”.

        This declaration is widely acknowledged as an Islamic response to the United Nations’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR), adopted in 1948. It guarantees many of the same rights as the UDHR, while at the same time reaffirming the inequalities inherent in Islamic law and tradition in terms of religion, religious conversion, gender, sexuality, political rights, and other aspects of contemporary society at odds with various interpretations of the Islamic law and traditions.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_Declaration_on_Human_Rights_in_Islam

        Members of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference are:
        Middle East/Asia: Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Brunei, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Malaysia, Maldives, Oman, Pakistan, Palestine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Tajikista, Turkey, Turkmenistan, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Yemen
        Africa: Algeria, Benin, Burkina Faso,Cameroon, Comoros, Chad, Djibouti, Egypt, Gabon, Gambia, Guinea-Bissau, Guinea, Ivory Coast, Libya, Mali, Mauritania, Morocco, Mozambique, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Sudan, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda
        Europe: Albania
        South America: Guyana, Suriname

        Full English Text of the CDHRI: https://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/instree/cairodeclaration.html

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  14th June 2016

          Al Qaeda is less of a recruiting threat than ISIS. If ISIS’s strongholds are wiped out it will have less of an empire to fund and attract lunatics from the West which is the major threat to the non-Muslim world.

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          • Gezza

             /  14th June 2016

            ISIS came into being when it proclaimed itself to be a worldwide caliphate, and named Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi as its caliph. Islamic extremist attacks on the West & elsewhere were happening before then. ISIS just gave them someone to declare allegiance too. The idea won’t now die.

            What ISIS has done is educate fundamentalists on propagandising & proselytising via the web.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  14th June 2016

              What ISIS has done is educate fundamentalists on propagandising & proselytising via the web.

              Yes, but a lot of its power is based on sharing the “success” of its empire. When that is destroyed it is left with despair rather than hope as motivation – much less attractive.

          • Gezza

             /  14th June 2016

            Proclamation of the worldwide caliphate was 29 June 2014.

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            • The answer might be intrusion upon the freedom of the internet? We give up some freedoms in exchange for security? Cut off ISIS’s channels of communication and recruiting?

              My opinion, FWIW, is –

              Mental Illness AND/OR psychosis = potential Mass Killer
              potential Mass Killer + weapon supply = atrocity (130 in 2016 so far)

              AND/OR Islam AND/OR ISIS = suspected or real Terrorist
              Terrorist + weapon supply = terrorist atrocity (possibly 3 in 2016 so far)

              Solutions:
              > Identify and treat Mental Illness & Psychosis.
              > REMOVE [access to] WEAPON SUPPLY … Doh! (common demoninator)
              > Accommodate AND/OR alter Islam (unless anyone wants to become a Mass Killer on a scale hitherto unknown?)
              > Isolate AND/OR alter AND/OR remove ISIS (the latter, as Gezza points out below, won’t solve the problem anyway)

              “I think only Trump will do this” …. FFS … YEAH … RIGHT!?

  8. Brown

     /  14th June 2016

    Milo is consistent in his views and knows he and other gays are increasingly endangered in Europe and is correct that gays for Islam and Palestine etc … are poster causes for deluded people.

    We in the west desperately need to have a discussion with Muslims about their theology. They need to be under pressure to explain how violence and brutality as preached from their holy books (which are the words of god no less and cannot be changed or ignored) can be seen in modern terms. They also need to abandon Sharia Law but won’t. I suspect they can’t adjust without accepting the holiness is bollocks and thereby collapsing the whole rotten edifice. That is not going to happen by us being nice and tolerating bad behaviour. Your nice Muslims are cultural, theologically ignorant (like nominal Christians who know nothing about it beyond Easter and Christmas) and don’t take it seriously – they will ignore it if the Muslim thought police are not looking. Still, only leaves a few hundred million serious Muslims out there and who do want you to convert or piss off and what harm can they cause?

    You can start it off Pete having learned heaps about religion from a stage show. The Muslims will respect your ignorance while you ask searching questions on stuff you know nothing about.

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  9. Joe Bloggs

     /  14th June 2016

    so a wife-beating homophobe runs amok in a gay nightclub and Atkins goes straight for the anti-Muslim angle using hate-speech harvested from a conservative wingnut yellow journalist who uses Twitter troll sources…

    ah well kinda goes with the whole sewerage outfall thing that Slater’s got going over there

    oh, and +100 for this post PG as the wonks at TS would say…

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  10. At least Atkins is following the line that the White House is pushing (I disagree with both). I detect a distinction between the way that the US Democrat aligned media, and Federal spokesmen and commentators are taking. This diametrically opposed to the line being taken by the Republican aligned media. The Democratic White House line is that the Orlando incident was a hate crime perpetuated by a homophobic irrational person. The idea that it may be called an act of Terror is dismissed and the FBI are going to great lengths to say nothing here we interviewed him in 2013 and 2014, he was a Prison guard for a while and then a uard with a Security Company. Insufficient evidence to old him according to the US Constitution! As an interested person not directly involved, in my judgement, it quacks, has feathers and waddles, and is a terrorist act by a person whom was reacting to ISIS’ appeal for lone wolf action, and the FBI should have used their anti-terrorist powers to restrict the perpetrators unsupervised movement based solely on the red flags raised by his behaviour.

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    • Gezza

       /  14th June 2016

      I have a feeling they can’t do that because there are not enough of them to track all those in US who exhibit his level of interest in ISIS. So far I think all we know is that he rang 911 and actually pledged allegiance to ISIS during the massacre.

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      • Gezza, there were reports given to FBI agents from his work mates of him running off his mouth in support of the extremist muslims and he had some association with a US citizen who went and joined the ISIS forces if you believe the Head of the FBI, and I see no reason not to. Also I understand that journalist Owen Jones has stormed out of a Sky News interview after the interviewer refused to call a mass shooting in Orlando, Florida an attack on LGBT people. Which it was, that is a fact. However it was also a global terrorist incident that occurred in the US following well publicised ISIS/ISIL calls for Global lone wolf attacks over the Ramadan period. Question are we sure that we don’t have any loose cannons in NZ who would go amuk in the name of Allah, or Mohammed (SWT) ? I know that some NZ Muslim spokes-people have publicly condemned the Orlando incident, but can we have faith that they will tell the Police of errant extremist behaviour – members of their congregation?

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        • duperez

           /  14th June 2016

          Would you tell the police about dangerous, extreme or illegal behaviour of your family members? Or the fact you were fearful of one of them doing something terrible?
          Have you ever had to make that decision?

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          • Yes, remember my comments on suicide? The first stop is the Police if the behaviour threatens injury or worse to anyone at any time or anywhere. Talk is cheap, if they are publicly verbalising their intentions, they almost certainly won’t act. It’s the ones that don’t speak, but act that are the real worry.

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        • Gezza

           /  14th June 2016

          Yes, I’ve read the reports bj – that his workmates did report him for his pro-al qaeda rants and claimed associations with terrorists

          Also a couple of overseas articles now reporting his ex-wife & a classmate saying he was gay himself. Another one saying his ex-wife didn’t know.
          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3639961/Orlando-terrorist-went-gay-club-Pulse-dozen-times-got-drunk-belligerent-talked-wife-kid-massacring-49-people-there.html
          http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/orlando-shooter-reported-pulse-club-regular-patrons-article-1.2672445

          I’m waiting for the dust to settle because a lot of this is gossip from MSM journos looking for sensational headlines.

          What I mean by my comments above is, do the FBI actually have the resources to investigate & monitor 24/7 every muslim or child of a muslim in the US who does & says what this guy did? They looked into his background earlier and concluded that he wasn’t a danger. They did the same thing, investigated and then forgot about, Tamerlane Tsarnaev, the Boston Bomber elder brother in the same way too.

          Given that the FBI wasn’t anticipating this and wouldn’t be courting the kind of shit it’s going to be getting about it, I think it’s a reasonable assumption they’ve got a lot more people of muslim background who do this sort of thing than they can actually monitor 24/7.

          I expect out of this we are going to see the FBI request more more resources.

          I know that some NZ Muslim spokes-people have publicly condemned the Orlando incident, but can we have faith that they will tell the Police of errant extremist behaviour – members of their congregation?

          I don’t think so, no. They probably will, but I don’t have complete faith that they would. What I do think is that the community here is still small enough for them to be monitored more easily than in the US.

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          • Gezza, sorry I thought it was clear that I agree about capabilities of the FBI. It is a pity that, … I think last time I totted them up some 30 US Int/Sec agencies were on the case, God knows what their total capability is, and I don’t need to know… However, you are right, no single organisation has the capability to watch all of the people all of the time, let alone some/most! As far as NZ is concerned, I am concerned that the Ahipara Fisherman who reported his concerns about the people involved in the Methamphetamine success, now feels threatened. The rest of the community will no doubt gather around as the Far North has always done – remember Rainbow Warrior?

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  11. Brown

     /  14th June 2016

    Muslim Quran says kill gays, Muslim countries often kill gays, local Muslim Iman says kills gays, Muslim (on Muslim terror watch list) kills gays. Nothing to do with Muslims. Yep, makes sense I guess.

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  12. jamie

     /  14th June 2016

    I actually feel for Juana and Cameron in this instance. They must have been up all night trying to figure out whether they hate gays or muslims the most.

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  13. Pete Kane

     /  14th June 2016

    “…………wake of the Orlando gay nightclub massacre.”
    Well our own Representatives make clear that there are a lot of different ways to take this. I have mixed views about these sort of motions – if for nothing other than their randomness.
    http://www.inthehouse.co.nz/video/43885

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  14. Kitty Catkin

     /  14th June 2016

    America, of course, hasn’t the slightest wish to dominate the world.

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  15. lurcher1948

     /  14th June 2016

    [Deleted, leave out the personal abuse. PG] should develop a sense of pride as a spanish bride

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  16. Kitty, I am sure you recall the events that succeeded the end of WW2, where the US in the big 4 meetings, using its economic power via the Marshall Plan demanded the decolonisation of the former European Powers’ colonies. So India, the jewel in the Crown was lost, and all else followed leading to the French defeat in IndoChina, and the final dagger in the back when they demanded the UK, France and Israel handover the Canal to Egypt. The US were motivated by an ideology inherited from their background as a former French, Russian and British Colony. Churchill did his best, but lost his Prime Ministership. One wonders whether the world would have been a better place if we did not see the creation of Pakistan and Bangladesh as part of the division and separation of India. We see, in the context of “he who rules the heartland rules the world” the modernisation of China and the creation of the new Silk Road as China seeks to dominate the Heartland and become the pre-eminent Global economic power. Remember that China is now the only pure Communist nation left, as Vietnam and Myanmar have moved to modern capitalistic-based economies. Meanwhile, the USA is undergoing a crisis of Moral strength, a misunderstanding of what Democracy actually means while Capitalist Investors manipulate politics internally and externally to control the distribution of wealth and the means of production for personal gain. If one reflects on the moral behind “A Tale of Two Cities” and the facts of the 1918 Russian revolution, perhaps there needs to be another revolution by the remaining people of Honour. Civilisation is confronting right now one of the major dilemmas of mankind’s existence, whether to require, by force if necessary, a revision of the tenets of Islam, so that the Atlantic Declaration of Human Rights is used by all people of this globe, and the unacceptable face of Islam revised to allow for the tenet of all people being equal in the face of the Universe, God/ Allah/Tuhan yang Maha Esa, Buddha and the other prime identities of the many faiths pursued by people. Freedom is the continuing aim, we must never be judged by Religious laws.

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    • So beejay, let me see if I understand this correctly?

      1) Yes, The United States of America does indeed want to dominate the world?

      2) If the U.S. doesn’t dominate the world China will?

      3) The final hurdle to dominating the world is Islam?

      4) The remaining People of Honour in the U.S. – whoever they might be – may need to conduct a revolution (although quite what the intended outcome of such an action is is entirely unclear)?

      If it is the re-establishment of ‘real democracy’ this will probably negate 1) and 3) above …?

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      • PZ, I don’t necessarily believe that the anti-Colonial policy of different US Administrations could objectively translate into a desire for World Dominance. However, the economic case for the TPP as pursued by the US i.e, We (the US) will call the shots on global economic policy and not China (a paraphrase) clearly seeks dominance. If the US does not succeed will China be pre-eminent? I don’t know, will India side with the US? What will the UK, France and Germany do?
        Is Islam the final hurdle to world dominance? I don’t think so, Can you imagine China, India, and the US being dominated by Islam? History says no.
        I did not limit the remaining people of honour to a minority of the US, it is a global group, and probably includes a lot of us who contribute to this blog.
        What is “real democracy”? I don’t like the modern definitions which have seemingly diluted the concept with the old definition of “Liberals”. Freedom for all people from tyranny, physical, idealogical and mental is what I want.

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  17. yeah, well this is a woman who likes to pose with dead animals she has shot for ‘sport’.

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