Teina Pora payout

It is being widely reported that an announcement is due today of a $2 million payout to Teina Pora after he spent 21 years in prison after being wrongly convicted of rape and murder..

Stuff: Teina Pora to receive $2 million compensation payout

Teina Pora will receive a record $2 million compensation payout, which was approved by Cabinet this week.

Pora was convicted in 1994 of the 1992 rape and murder of Susan Burdett.

New evidence presented to the Privy Council showed Pora suffered from foetal alcohol syndrome that made his confession, which was key to his original conviction, unsafe. No retrial was ordered.

A spokesman for Justice Minister Amy Adams said an announcement regarding Pora’s compensation was due tomorrow.

Adams announced in June last year that Pora’s compensation claim would be reviewed by retired High Court judge Rodney Hansen.

Cabinet guidelines set a base figure of about $100,000 compensation per year of wrongful incarceration.

Two million dollars sounds a lot but 21 years is also a lot.

It’s understood the mood in Cabinet was that the compensation was well deserved.

Pora was in prison from when he was 17 to when he was 38. That’s a major chunk of his life behind bars.

I wouldn’t call it ‘deserved’, it wasn’t something Pora earned, he will get it as compensation for wrong done to him.

52 Comments

  1. Blazer

     /  June 15, 2016

    The irony is that his original confession’ was motivated by collecting only 20k!

    • Corky

       /  June 15, 2016

      The power of compound interest…Blazer.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  June 15, 2016

        If he confessed, he couldn’t be surprised to have been taken at his word-it was not a great idea.

  2. Corky

     /  June 15, 2016

    I do hope Teina has sound advisor’s who tell him straight that this amount of money is not great by the time he indulges a few whims and puts the remainder in investments.

    He will also need a 101 on human nature before more bro’s then then you can shake a stick at crawl out from under the bushes. And boy won’t those bro’s sum the situation up quickly and try their darndest to distance Teina from his support as soon as possible. Just ask David Tua.how that worked out in his case.

    • Nelly Smickers

       /  June 15, 2016

      • Gezza

         /  June 15, 2016

        I knew you’d figure it out.

      • Corky

         /  June 15, 2016

        Jeez, I bet Teina didn’t know he had an Uncle Milton in Jamaica.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  June 15, 2016

      Too so true, Corky. The whanau will be on him like a plague of leaches. They’ll bleed him dry in months given the chance.

      • Gezza

         /  June 15, 2016

        Leeches.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  June 15, 2016

          Well. let’s assume that they don’t, and he spends the lot. $2,000,000 would be very easy to go through if the recipient has no idea of how to make good use of it; it would seem like a bottomless pot of gold, but it wouldn’t take too many expensive cars and things like that for it to be spent in a short time. The first Lotto millionaire went through it in 12 months, and that was years ago. I know someone whose house was bought by the government because it was in a subsidence area. Instead of buying another house, she and her husband spent it on things like overseas holidays, with the result that they never owned a house again-not such a good idea now that they are on Super.

          I wonder how many people thought as we all seem to be thinking-variations on the theme that he could well not have it long !

  3. Brown

     /  June 15, 2016

    Yep, he’ll be fleeced by breakfast and part of that vulnerability will be because he’s a bit dim – from what I read of him. That makes those fleecing him particularly nasty. He needs a trust and a minder to look after him.

    What really worries me is how earnestly the cops will try to recover the money from other heinous criminals like speeding motorists. There’s a new topic for discussion next time I get pulled over by someone who is condescending and wants to lecture me.

    • Gezza

       /  June 15, 2016

      Yep, it’s true he’ll be fleeced by family and “advisors” if no one protects his interests.
      It happens to so many Lotto winners who’re dim.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  June 15, 2016

        The lecture may well because of the number of people who are killed by speeding drivers, This costs the taxpayer an astronomical amount of money. You speed, you pay. If you don’t want to pay the fine, don’t speed.

        Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s.

        It’s not a good look for a Christian to break the law and risk their own and other people’s lives. Even if you only kill yourself, it costs the taxpayer a huge amount. Think of it as a tiny contribution towards the mayhem caused by you and your fellow leadfoots. The fines go nowhere near paying the cost of speeding drivers who think that the law doesn’t apply to them.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  June 15, 2016

          I have cost the taxpayer exactly nothing after years of ignoring the posted speed limit and instead driving according to all the conditions. The only accidents I have had in 50+ years of driving all kinds of vehicles have been at low speeds. Many women drivers cause mayhem to themselves and others by inconsiderate driving which has nothing to do with the speed limit and everything to do with not paying attention to what is around them.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  June 15, 2016

          The cost is estimated at more than 3 billion. The amount collected by fines (which in any case goes into general funds) is almost certainly a tiny fraction of that.

          Then there are the deaths and injuries caused by the selfishness of speeding drivers. Don’t expect any sympathy from me if you’re caught breaking the law. It’s sheer luck that I wasn’t killed by the driver who left me lying bleeding, unconscious and with some horrible injuries as she sped away after sending me flying through the air and along the road. My clothes were pretty well shredded down one side, which shows the impact of my hitting the ground and along it for some way. My hospital stay alone cost in excess of $100,000.

          If you speed, think yourself lucky if the worst thing that happens to you is a fine. I would imagine that even someone as callous as the woman who hit me and took off had nightmares about it. I hope so.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  June 15, 2016

            Was she speeding in excess of the speed limit? The vast majority of accidents are not so I would expect not.

            Luck has nothing to do with it. Care has everything.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  June 15, 2016

              Oh, and as I’ve noted before, two of the TV pontificating talking heads that used to lecture us on the dangers of speed on behalf of the enforcement industry have killed themselves on the roads. Be careful it doesn’t happen to you. Karma is cruel.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  June 15, 2016

              I believe that she was speeding from what I was told by the witness. She must have been, as I wouldn’t have slowed to pass a parked vehicle. I remember indicating and pulling out, and then a great bang and much later a memory came of flying through the air-though not, thank Heaven, anything after that until I woke up in hospital.

              I nearly was killed on the road-because of someone’s impatience. Were those people killed by their own driving or someone else’s ?

              Speeding kills. Everyone who speeds thinks that they’re safe doing it.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  June 15, 2016

              B.s, Kitty. There is nothing magically safe about a designated speed limit. Depending on many conditions the safe speed may be greater or less than it. Obviously hitting another road user from behind is grossly bad and careless driving irrespective of speed. Most speedometers read at least 5km/h too high and that even that difference in speed between a bike and car would be enough to send you flying into and sliding along the road at 50km/h which is potentially lethal.

            • Gezza

               /  June 15, 2016

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  June 15, 2016

              Needed this:

            • Gezza

               /  June 15, 2016

              Most speedometers read at least 5km/h too high
              Mine reads 3 kmh too high @ 50 kmh against roadside speed indicators. The garage tells me not worth adjusting: it’s common & the official tolerance allowed for WOF is 5 km.

            • Gezza

               /  June 15, 2016

              Correction: Mine reads 3 kmh too low @ 50 kmh against roadside speed indicators. When mine reads speed 50k on the signs, I’m actually only doing 47 k. The garage still won’t adjust it because of the 5kmh tolerance.

  4. Klik Bate

     /  June 15, 2016

    So Mr Pora gets 2.5mil – nice work if you can get it.

  5. What share goes to his lawyers?

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  June 15, 2016

      I don’t know.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  June 15, 2016

        Who on earth downvoted that ? And why ? Never mind, I don’t want to know.

        One of them would be the person who downvoted what I said about how T P may well end up with the money spent quite soon-but they only disagreed with it when I said it. How odd.

    • jamie

       /  June 15, 2016

      What share goes to his lawyers? Presumably the amount that covers the bill for their services.

      What a strange question. What share goes to his tailor?

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  June 16, 2016

        It’s certainly a silly one. Lawyers don’t work for nothing, any more than anyone else does.

  6. Conspiratoor

     /  June 15, 2016

    Not a popular sentiment but this wretched creature deserves nothing given the circumstances around his original admission and his gang affiliations. His miserable existence would have produced no net benefit to society of this we can be sure. Where are the rights of the victims families in all of this? I despair

    • Nelly Smickers

       /  June 15, 2016

      As my hubby said, he would have far rather seen this money go to Susan Burdett

      Just like you Cons, we despair as well… :/

      • Pete Kane

         /  June 15, 2016

        From Klick Bait (and how repugnant is that) to NS (equally so), it’s like voyage of the dammed!

        • Nelly Smickers

           /  June 15, 2016

          Wayne reckons you sound just like another one of those lefty crim-hugging bleeding hart liberals PK 👿

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  June 15, 2016

            It would be difficult to give it to Susan Burdett. Did Wayne not realise that she was murdered as well as raped ? She has been dead for over 20 years. That’s why Teina Porou was imprisoned in the first place. Wayne must be the only person in NZ who doesn’t know this, if he wants the money to go to her.

            • jamie

               /  June 15, 2016

              From what I’ve observed Wayne probably isn’t all that bright.

            • Gezza

               /  June 15, 2016

              I think his wife makes up for it.

            • Nelly Smickers

               /  June 15, 2016

              Yes, you are quite correct there Kitzy…..Wayne meant to say, Susan Couch, the RSA survivor.

              He sometimes engages his mouth before his brain :/

            • Gezza

               /  June 15, 2016

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  June 15, 2016

              Elizabeth River?

            • Gezza

               /  June 15, 2016

              No I think her name is Chrissy, no last name..

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  June 16, 2016

              Wayne really must be dim if he wants it to go to someone who had no connection with the Susan Burdett murder, that makes no sense at all.

            • Gezza

               /  June 16, 2016

              I don’t think there’s any doubt Wayne’s as dumb as a decoy, Kitty.

  7. Pete Kane

     /  June 15, 2016

    Did you answer my question from yesterday about which pistol range/club you and ‘Charlton” are in? We can patch it up (in a manor of speaking).

    • Nelly Smickers

       /  June 15, 2016

      We are both members of the APC. Wayne has been a firearms collector for over 20 years.

      What did you have in mind??

      • Klik Bate

         /  June 15, 2016

        Maybe PK was thinking of a threesome?

  8. jamie

     /  June 15, 2016

    If he invests it wisely he could end up with a deposit on a house in Auckland one day.

    • Gezza

       /  June 15, 2016

      He’d have to invest it in a house in Auckland to get that kind of money I expect.

  9. Kitty Catkin

     /  June 16, 2016

    How long do people think it will be before the $2,000,000 is gone ?

    I really hope that we’re all wrong on this one, though.

  10. dylan

     /  June 16, 2016

    Mate look at the state of him you work it out you think he would have saved or even earned over $100,000 per year?im a qualified engineer and dont earn close to that iv been to jail for being young and dumb and would go back tomorrow for $100,000 a year.Hes the dumbass that went in and admitted he done the crime dumb idiot would have ended up in jail if not for susan burdett now me and ever tax payer has to pay him for bein a retard?good one nz

    • Gezza

       /  June 16, 2016

      No they’re paying him because the cops and the prosecutors were retards.