More on euthanasia

Links to further information on euthanasia (thanks PK):

RNZ (audio):

Andrew Denton is probably best known here as an Australian television presenter and comedian, but his new role is a much more serious one. He’s become a leading campaigner for physician-assisted dying, better known as voluntary euthanasia. He shares his own story of how watching his own father die led him to his views

Andrew Denton – Euthanasia

TVNZ Q+A (video):

Andrew Denton is in NZ to speak to the Voluntary Euthanasia Society. Talking about his personal campaign …

Euthanasia – Your Choice

 

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13 Comments

  1. Peter Kane

     /  20th June 2016

    This is a very capable advocate. It’s always interesting to watch just how effective very funny people can be, when they seriously serious.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  20th June 2016

      Think Bill Oddie and Tony Robinson, and Billy Connolly…

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  2. @RadioLIVENZ
    It has already been a year since Lecretia Seales died, #euthanasia will be back in the spotlight today.

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    • Peter Kane

       /  20th June 2016

      Maryan Street commented that if Andrew Little (and others) were frightened of public opinion, then they should speak to the public and they wouldn’t be (my wording). I think, unfortunately for Andrew, many of the said public would say, well if that’s your reasoning Andrew, what have you got to loose?
      The wrong side of history is never a great place to be, whoever you are. If he has a strong moral conviction opposing this, he would be best (because of his current circumstances), to simply say so.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  20th June 2016

          I imagine that with odd spellings of ordinary names, that must be an occupational hazard. Why not spell it Marian ?

          If euthanasia were to come in here, we would be able to learn from other countries-how to do it, and how NOT to do it.

          I like the Oregon system the best-it can only be voluntary. I don’t know what I’d have done if my husband had lingered and lingered, as nobody would want to be like that and yet I wouldn’t have wanted to say that yes, I wanted him killed. Yes, people do it to animals, but he wasn’t an animal. The cancer hurried up and killed him-his heart couldn’t keep going as the cancer was putting such a strain on his body.. I don’t think that anyone can really understand how dreadful this is unless they’ve been through it-and what a gutwrenching decision it would be,to make that final, irrevocable choice on someone else’s behalf.

          Pneumonia is nature’s euthanasia . (can’t help admiring this phrase) It was merciful to a friend with early Alzheimer’s, and I was probably one of many who were glad when he died-for his sake. Seeing that intelligent, dignified man like that was heart-breaking.Nobody could have wanted him to go on like that.

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  3. Nelly Smickers

     /  20th June 2016

    Wayne’s mum is getting on a bit….. so in light of this discussion, I asked her what she felt about euthanasia?

    She said she wished they’d all stay there o_O

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  21st June 2016

      That’s an ancient joke, it was old when I first heard it. It wasn’t funny when it was new, whenever that was-probably when the word euthanasia was coined-and it’s not funny now.

      Nobody who has seen someone they loved dying a horrible death would find this remotely amusing. I can’t imagine why you would think it appropriate in a serious discussion like this. Euthanasia is not amusing to most people. It may seem so to you, Wayne and Wayne’s mother, but I suspect that Lecretia Seales’ family wouldn’t find the subject funny. I suppose that there’s nothing that won’t be laughed at by some people.

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      • Nelly Smickers

         /  21st June 2016

        C’mon Kitzy, what about your comment 2 from the top XD

        And if all these jokes are so old, how come you never tell us any??

        You even asked me to repeat my ‘knock-knock’ joke in Latin the other night, and you didn’t even give me so much as a LOL!!

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  21st June 2016

          I wasn’t laughing at euthanasia, which is not a fit subject for mirth in my opinion. I mentioned some comedians who were also serious commentators.

          Nor did I appreciate jokes about the subject when I had been talking about it in relation to my husband who died of cancer, the secondaries of which were in his lungs. Do you know what that’s like to witness ? If you really are a nurse, you must have seen people dying of cancer. These are the people for whom euthanasia is a serious issue. If you had seen your husband dying of cancer, you might not find it funny when someone followed your remarks about this heartbreaking situation with a puerile joke. It’s insensitive, to say the least. I am sure that the Seales family would see it as inappropriate and insensitive. I came home one day to find my husband on the floor where he’d been for some hours. He went into hospital to see if he was all right after this and never came home. The decision was made not to continue with treatment as it was doing no good. This may be construed as euthanasia, I suppose-passive euthanasia, I had to make that decision and say whether he would die in hospital or hospice..

          Excuse me for not finding this pathetic old joke about euthanasia remotely amusing.

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  4. Kitty Catkin

     /  21st June 2016

    I suppose that that will be downticked by someone.

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    • I’m tempted Miss Kitty. You and Nelly have wandered into another by-way on this subject.

      I appreciate you sharing your personal experience, please don’t get me wrong …

      But this “and what a gutwrenching decision it would be, to make that final, irrevocable choice on someone else’s behalf,” ain’t never gonna happen. It has never even been suggested by anyone, as far as I know, except a few pathetic hardcore opponents of Death with Dignity or End of Life Choice on religious grounds … Note the lack of religion in the premise “someone else’s behalf”.

      It’s nothing but a side-show called Red Herring …

      And, “This may be construed as euthanasia, I suppose-passive euthanasia,”

      Nope! Just plain wrong. This is called something like “cessation of treatment” … Not easy for you, I concede, but definitely not legal End of Life Choice …

      Under the End of Life Choice your husband would have made the choice voluntarily himself [and no doubt with you] in consultation with his doctor (and possibly a second doctor and specialist) while he was still competent to do so … and to act on his decision …

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