From 90% extreme poverty to 10%

The Communist Party took over China in 1949.

  • In 1981 90% of Chinese lived in ‘extreme poverty’.
  • In 1976 Mao Tse Tung died.
  • In 1978 Deng Xiaoping took power and started major economic reforms.
  • In the 1990s China’s economic performance pulled an estimated 150 million peasants out of poverty.
  • In 2010 10% of Chinese lived in ‘extreme poverty’.

This has changed as China has rapidly transitioned between socialism to a capitalist/market driven economy, just about entirely in the era of ‘neoliberalism’.

10% of 1.3 billion people is still a lot of people in extreme poverty, over 100 million people, but it is a huge improvement in living standards for Chinese people overall.

 

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Source – Share of the population living in extreme poverty, 1981 to 2010

Extreme poverty is defined as living with an income of less than 1.90$ per day. All incomes are adjusted for inflation over time and for price differences between countries and expressed in 2011 PPP international dollars.

Change has been less dramatic elsewhere but the move out of poverty has also been significant.

  • India – from 53% to 21%
  • Bangladesh from 70% to 44%
  • Uganda from 95% (1988) to 33%
  • Vietnam from 49% (1992) to 4%

 

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39 Comments

  1. Brown

     /  29th June 2016

    The end result may be encouraging but don’t forget how many communism killed along the way. The communist party remain a disaster with new chickens coming home to roost.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  29th June 2016

      How many died in the Industrial Revolution-and well after what is historically the cut-off point for this ? They may not have been deliberately murdered, but they might as well have been.

      How many died in Hitler’s Germany ? Is it any better to be killed in Europe than in China ? One is just as dead.

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  2. Corky

     /  29th June 2016

    Capitalism and a smoking gun barrel just can’t be beat.

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  3. Blazer

     /  29th June 2016

    What is the source of the information?

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    • Corky

       /  29th June 2016

      Made in China. Made in China Made in China.

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      • Blazer

         /  29th June 2016

        You talking about the…apple iPhone!

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        • Corky

           /  29th June 2016

          Yes.

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          • Corky

             /  29th June 2016

            I mean they use to get around on bikes that had spokes if they were lucky. That’s a big jump to making i-phones. Such a jump doesn’t happen in a vacuum.
            And worse is to come for global car manufacturers. Chinese vehicles aren’t quite up to the quality of other vehicles, regardless of what Colin Meads says. But many industry insiders predict China will be on par within five years and will be much cheaper. A current 4-wheel drive Great Wall ute is going for about 28 grand in NZ.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  29th June 2016

              This is very opportune, as a friend & I were talking about cheap Chinese things last night-I said that I wouldn’t worry about the wages being low by Western standards as long as they bought the equivalent standard of living in China, with prices there being low as well. If China has any sense-and it obviously has-they will keep both wages and prices low.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  29th June 2016

              If a bike had no spokes, its wheels wouldn’t spin, surely.

            • Nelly Smickers

               /  29th June 2016
            • Gezza

               /  29th June 2016

              Xi is grabbing more and more personal power like crazy though and they’re making it clear they’re ready to exert themselves in their own region & perhaps in Africa.

            • Gezza

               /  29th June 2016

              It does have spokes, but they’re wooden. But you can have solid wheels, indoor racing bicycles do.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  29th June 2016

              Wooden ones would be easy to replace if they needed to be..

              Offal is cheap here, too. Anyone who eats dead animals can’t sneer at the kind of dead animals other people eat. It’s a question of taste. Why is one form of animal flesh acceptable and others not ? They are all dead animals.

            • Nelly Smickers

               /  29th June 2016

            • dougal

               /  30th June 2016

              Colin Meads.. Ssangyong is Korean. Just sayin

  4. Zedd

     /  29th June 2016

    all very interesting… BUT I’m more concerned about the news, that 60% of the total wealth in NZ, is now owned by only 10%.. whilst bottom 40% of kiwis only own about 3%.

    Bloody disgraceful.. just proves this Govt.s REAL agenda: “MIND THE GAP folks” 😦

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    • Gezza

       /  29th June 2016

      Question Time is a circus again.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  29th June 2016

        What about the other 37% ?

        You ignore the fact that a small % pay a huge % of the income tax, and that many people pay none at all.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  29th June 2016

          The income tax total, I mean, the rich people are keeping the rest. I wish that I didn’t pay any tax-I do, although my income is so far below the ‘poverty line’ that the poverty line looks like wealth to me.

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        • Gezza

           /  29th June 2016

          Harder to pay a lot of tax if your income’s so small the take’s too small. Percentages should increase if more people got paid more working in more jobs wouldn’t they Kitty?

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  29th June 2016

            No. They contribute enough as it is . Why should people be penalised for working harder ?

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            • Gezza

               /  29th June 2016

              Kitty i’m not having a go, but i am genuinely wondering why you don’t get a job to improve your income?

              In my case I choose not to, because I can afford not to and because it would be difficult for me to get one doing anything I’d be good at at my age, am not a businessman, and won’t work for peanuts doing something I don’t like for someone I don’t know or don’t like.

              I don’t pay much income tax, mostly indirect tax which of course takes a higher percentage of my income than David’s. Just lucky I guess.

              Re your last – no what I mean is, if more people are working, and they get paid more, won’t the government’s tax take increase at the bottom end thus lowering the amount they need to take from the economically strapped rich people?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  29th June 2016

              Someone on my income’s paying 10.5%. I do find it galling that some families-who take the most from the tax paid by everyone else-are paying none at all. That is really unjust. I don’t mind paying taxes, but I do mind that some people are paying none because they have children and other people’s taxes are paying for those children to go to school, to have medical & dental treatment, for the roads that they drive on and other things. Child poverty ? What about adult poverty ? Heating the house just doesn’t happen on my current income. Yes, I do have a dog, but he doesn’t cost much and I need SOME company. Try being a widow and see how many people still want to know you. Very, very few. A dog is really an essential item.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  29th June 2016

              I have health problems that I don’t want to go into. I do consider myself lucky to have an income, but there’s no denying that it can be hard on such a small one. I have some money in the bank, but don’t want to use it (and lose the interest) for daily living if I can avoid this. I don’t suppose that mine is the only unheated house in NZ. Thank goodness it’s been a mild winter so far.

            • Gezza

               /  29th June 2016

              If people didn’t have children none of us would be here.
              I want to know you and I’m glad we talk here.
              More people in well paid work, more people paying more tax.
              Maybe more for those who can’t do either.
              Having children you can’t afford is a problem for everybody.

            • Nelly Smickers

               /  29th June 2016

              According to the govt.nz website, ‘Working for Families is a package designed to help make it easier to work and raise a family. It pays other peoples money to many thousands of NZ families thru Work and Income’

              Me and Wayne have been working for *other peoples families* for years….even JK called it ‘Communism by stealth’ once upon a time 😡

            • Gezza

               /  29th June 2016

              It happens when people don’t get paid enough but the government wants to increase the population. It’s either that or more immigration.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  29th June 2016

            @Kitty, you don’t have a fireplace or a wood burner? We’ve got an ancient Kent that is very effective and burns our own firewood.

            Have you thought about proof reading or editing for extra income? It seems to be your forté.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  29th June 2016

              So far it hasn’t been really cold-it was 20o yesterday. .

              No room for a Kent in this house, the books fill all the walls that don’t have furniture on them. There are bookcases in the kitchen. There aren’t in the bathroom because there’s no room. There are bookcases in the bedrooms…it’s a disease

              Thank you for that-I kept coming to dead ends when I looked a few years ago. It seemed that nobody wanted it done. Ingrates. There are some dreadful howlers printed. The one that is seriously annoying is ‘ Swift, Jonathan, 183.’ One turns to page 183 and he’s not there. Or on 138, 381, 18….

              I won’t start on the misuse or non-use of apostrophes and commas.

            • Gezza

               /  29th June 2016

              And em dashes. I see hyphens being used instead of em dashes all the time. 😥

              I know how you feel, I’ve done quite a bit of editing in my time. The neat thing about WordPress is if you type three hyphens one after the other you get an em dash when you post the comment. (teasing)

            • Gezza

               /  29th June 2016

              LOL! The car tune-in their iz fantistac, All

  5. Blazer

     /  29th June 2016

    Love is in the air.

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    • Gezza

       /  29th June 2016

      World would be a far better place if there was a lot more of it being breathed in & out Blazer.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  29th June 2016

        Wouldn’t it just ? Or even tolerance. People accepting that other people have the right to be different, which probably won’t happen in my lifetime. It amazes me that one man who walks around telling Muslim women that they shouldn’t dress as they do is a middle-aged gay who would have been a young gay when gay men doing whatever they felt like doing in their own bedroom was illegal. How he must have wished for tolerance for himself, but he’s not prepared to extend this to other people. I keep meanly hoping that a Muslim woman’s husband will be in hearing-and that he is the Saudi amateur heavyweight boxing champion 😀

        I can’t remember who said that they wished that they were the person whom their dog thought that they were. My dog thinks that I am so beautiful that the handsome young couriers (and they all seem to be) who deliver things must have designs on me. Dream on. But how nice to have someone who loves one enough to imagine that this is possible 😀

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