“If Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes…”

Some concerns have been raised about Donald Trump by someone who ghost wrote a biography of Trump in the 1980s – and similar worries are probably shared by many people around the world.

NZH: ‘He can lie about anything’: What Trump’s ghostwriter really thinks of him

Tony Schwartz, ghostwriter of Trump’s 1987 autobiography The Art of the Deal, opened up for the first time in an interview with the New Yorker for its July 25 edition, and the results aren’t pretty.

He decided to speak out, he said, after noticing that Trump seemed to have convinced himself that he had written the book alone, despite Schwartz spending 18 months by his side researching the work.

By June, he had come to the conclusion that he would never be able to forgive himself if the mythologised Trump he had helped to create was elected President of the United States.

“I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilisation.”

Schwartz and many others.

One of the hardest things about writing the book, said the ghostwriter, was that Trump couldn’t sit still and concentrate.

He was bored, impatient and restless during interviews, and draining to be around, according to Schwartz. “It’s impossible to imagine him paying attention over a long period of time,” he said.

The writer said he doubted Trump had read an entire book in his life, preferring to gain knowledge through short TV clips.

His short attention span had left him with “a stunning level of superficial knowledge and plain ignorance”, added Schwartz.

There’s signs of that now.

More than anyone else I have ever met, Trump has the ability to convince himself that whatever he is saying at any given moment is true, or sort of true, or at least ought to be true.”

He regularly lied about how well his properties were doing, and planted stories in the media under fake names, and felt absolutely no remorse.

Schwartz wrote in his journal: “Trump stands for many of the things I abhor: his willingness to run over people, the gaudy, tacky, gigantic obsessions, the absolute lack of interest in anything beyond power and money.”

Trump responded…

…by calling Schwartz “disloyal” and a publicity seeker. He maintains he wrote The Art of the Deal himself, although the publishers say he didn’t.

It doesn’t really matter to Trump. He has bigger fish to fry.

It does really matter to many people worried about the increased possibilities of being fried if Trump takes control of the nuclear button.

Leave a comment

59 Comments

  1. duperez

     /  20th July 2016

    Are people that stupid that he would get near The Codes, The Button?

    I just heard on the news that Trump’s campaign manager is blaming Hillary Clinton for Mrs Trump’s speech.

    If people are the tiniest bit stupid enough to believe that they may as well give him codes now.

    Reply
  2. Blazer

     /  20th July 2016

    Love the guy,the ultimate parody of ‘the Ugly American’ so beloved around the world.

    Reply
    • Corky

       /  20th July 2016

      Can’t wait for the Democrats Convention. Anyone who says Hollywood and the media ain’t liberal will be in for a shock as star after star takes to the stage. Poor old Trumpy had no one. The Democrats can pick and choose.

      But seriously, Obama has fugged America. He has basically told border patrols to let Mexican immigrants in, he will not acknowledge Islamic terrorism and Obama Care is a lead balloon. The guy is an abject failure. Trump needs only to do one thing well to be a better president.

      Make America great again…..so New Zealand can be protected. Great to see America now realises the Chinese aren’t in the Islands to work on their suntans.

      Reply
  3. David

     /  20th July 2016

    “It does really matter to many people worried about the increased possibilities of being fried if Trump takes control of the nuclear button.”

    This is based on a wholly misguided view of Trump. His actions for his entire life are consistent, Trump is very risk adverse,. he talks big, but acts small.

    Hillary is significantly more dangerous with a nuclear button.

    Reply
    • Gezza

       /  20th July 2016

      I think you might be right, David. Looking at how they both do things, the likelihood, if any foreign country attacked the US, is that Hillers might actually nuke them, whereas The Donald would probably just sue them ! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

      Reply
    • Nelly Smickers

       /  20th July 2016

      Reply
      • Zedd

         /  20th July 2016

        looks like Mrs Drumpf gets her ‘face-paint’ at the same place as hubby !

        Reply
        • Kitty Catkin

           /  20th July 2016

          Go and stand in the naughty corner at once. Um….here’s a king-size bar of chocolate to take with you.

          Reply
  4. MaureenW

     /  20th July 2016

    I haven’t yet seen any evidence of these types of stories hurting Trump. He is all over the media (what’s Hillary standing for again?) and these stories just reinforce why people who will vote for him, are going to vote for him. The nuclear codes scare-mongering theme was introduced by Hillary a couple of months back before Trump became the presumptive nominee. The lickspittle media are simply delivering the Democrats scaremongering to an unquestioning audience.

    Reply
    • Conspiratoor

       /  20th July 2016

      Two upticks Maureen. One for the sentiment, the other for lickspittle

      Reply
  5. No such thing as bad publicity? Hillary is drowning in the tide of public opinion against her credibility – people don’t believe her.

    Reply
    • Nelly Smickers

       /  20th July 2016

      I’m right with you there MW…..that Hillary Clinton sounds just *sooo nasty* ๐Ÿ˜ฅ

      Reply
      • Gezza

         /  20th July 2016

        ๐Ÿ˜ฎ ๐Ÿ˜ก

        Reply
      • Gezza

         /  20th July 2016

        Reckon Hillers is gonna be crossed off c’s Chrissie Card list too, Nellers, when he sees that !

        Reply
        • Nelly Smickers

           /  20th July 2016

          Personally Gezz, I’m more worried about what Kitzy will say when *she* sees it !!

          Reply
          • Kitty Catkin

             /  20th July 2016

            I have heard witless antiSemitism before, there are always those who think it’s funny and/or acceptable. I was on the receiving end of antiSemitism in the UK. AntiSemites are unlikely to be people whose opinions I value.

            It’s impossible to believe that Hillary Clinton was responsible for the pathetic, puerile and unsubtle attempt to discredit her in this poster. The person who made it needs sympathy-who’d want to be them ?-even more than they deserve contempt. They aren’t worth wasting anger on. Poor sad loser.

            Reply
            • Klik Bate

               /  20th July 2016

              @KittyC

              You are probably the only person here that finds it, “Impossible to believe that Hillary Clinton was responsible….”

              If you bothered to check the ‘source material’ shown with each of the quotes, you would indeed find that all are in fact correctly attributed to this vile woman.

              Still, never let the facts get in the way of a good story, eh’ Kitty – after all, “who’d want to be them?” LOL

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  20th July 2016

              I’d be surprised. Anyone can fake an attribution. It would be odd if she was so indiscreet, even if she felt that way.

              Why do you laugh at a Jewish person being contemptuous of antiSemites and not seeing mindless bigotry as something that they would want to have as a characteristic ? Do you admire this characteristic and/or find it hard to understand someone despising it ? My reaction to it when I heard that it had been expressed towards me was to despise the people who said it for their hypocrisy. I wouldn’t want to be them or be like them.

            • Klik Bate

               /  20th July 2016

              At least we agree on one thing then Kitty – it sounds like both of us totally despise Hillary Clinton for her hypocrisy.

              Although in your case, for completely different reasons to mine…..

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  20th July 2016

              I did not say that. Please don’t put words in my mouth. The people I was talking about were in London, I have never met Hillary Clinton and can’t possibly claim to be an expert on her.

              I looked up the sources for those alleged comments. Only a very gullible person would believe them coming from that source-you cannot seriously imagine that Dolly Kyle is a reliable authority. Someone who claims to have been Bill Clinton’s mistress with no evidence-who cares, anyway?- and claims that these remarks were made in conversations; again, no evidence. That really does come into the ‘must try harder’ category. Anyone could claim anything was said in an unverifiable conversation. Of course, there are those who believe that if something’s in print, it must be true. I don’t, unless there’s something to back it up.

              I have also read that Barack Obama was not born in the US . Do you believe that because it’s in print ? I have read that the FBI were behind Kennedy’s assassination. I have read that little spacemen landed at Rothwell and that various peoples came to NZ in days gone by. I have read that one can catch AIDS from loo seats and the flu from being soaked in the rain. I have read that using toothpaste poisons the users and that snakes have poisonous tongues. All of these have been in print, but only a naive fool believes everything they read in print.

              ‘It must be true, I read it in the paper.’

              ‘It must be true, it was in a book that I read,’

              Grow up. Being in print is not a guarantee of veracity.

            • Klik Bate

               /  20th July 2016

              Rest assured Kitty, I would never try to put anything in your mouth. I think your biggest problem, is that these days you can no longer rely on a set of 1972 Encyclopedia Britannica as your main reference source.

  6. Pete Kane

     /  20th July 2016

    BJ that’s not nice.

    1min 47 seconds showing just how ‘fine’ she is.

    Reply
  7. Blazer

     /  20th July 2016

    Hillary and John obviously learnt at the same school about political integrity.

    Reply
  8. The most difficult thing for US citizens to accept is that their system is a failure.

    Reply
    • Gezza

       /  20th July 2016

      AL JAZEERA BREAKING NEWS: ‘Trump wins Presidential nomination at GOP Conference.’
      11:14am

      Reply
      • Nelly Smickers

         /  20th July 2016

        You certainly can’t write off Hillz…….

        Reply
        • Gezza

           /  20th July 2016

          Ya reckon? Well … click on that icon you just posted & see if you’re right … ๐Ÿ˜Ž

          Reply
          • Nelly Smickers

             /  20th July 2016

            Dont’ya just hate it when that happens….

            Reply
            • Gezza

               /  20th July 2016

              I keep my wits about me so I know to make sure those sorts of things don’t happen to me Nelly.

            • MaureenW

               /  20th July 2016

              Lol, but I suspect it’s true.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  20th July 2016

              Gezza, is that a selfie ?

            • Gezza

               /  20th July 2016

              Yup. Before the gender reassignment Kitty.

  9. Alan Wilkinson

     /  20th July 2016

    If Trump wins the MSM will still have no clue why.

    Reply
  10. Zedd

     /  20th July 2016

    I hear the real reason Drumpf has that ‘comb over’ is to cover up the 666 under it ! ๐Ÿ˜€

    Reply
    • Gezza

       /  20th July 2016

      Reply
      • Zedd

         /  20th July 2016

        is that Herr. Drumpf Or HAIR Drumpf ? ๐Ÿ˜€

        Reply
        • Kitty Catkin

           /  20th July 2016

          It’s Herr Drumpf about to cut Drumpf’s ‘Hair’. I hope that the nylon doesn’t melt or give him a shock when the power’s turned on. When he brushes or combs it, it must give out an awful lot of static; imagine what would happen if anyone accidentally touched it. BZZZZZZZZ !!!!! ‘OWWWWWW!!!!’

          Reply
          • Gezza

             /  20th July 2016

            Umm … have you been having a lot of energy drinks today Kitty ? o_O

            Reply
          • Zedd

             /  20th July 2016

            @kck

            another time we seem to agree.. (fainting) ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€

            Reply
          • Corky

             /  20th July 2016

            Word of advice, Kitty. Don’t diss a man holding a chainsaw. After he shows you how he will ” cut the legs from under Islam,” he will no doubt look at your tail to replace the worn one on his Danial Boone cap.

            ps- Danial… as Boone’s friends called him.

            Reply
  11. Zedd

     /  20th July 2016

    I see on Al Jazeera.. that new UK PM (Ms May) has just announced that they are renewing their ‘Trident Nuclear weapons’ program.. that was due to be decommissioned ?
    She went on to say that she would use them ‘if needed’ ! ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

    Sounds like her & Drumpf, could be the new Ronnie & Maggie ??

    Reply
    • Gezza

       /  20th July 2016

      Might actually be him she’s worried about though, Zedd. Germans & Brits – you know – not always been exactly a cordial relationship? Ya done a think about that one? Get back to me. ๐Ÿป

      Reply
    • David

       /  20th July 2016

      Nuclear weapons have no purpose if you won’t use them when you need them.

      Reply
      • Gezza

         /  20th July 2016

        They’ve served the purpose pretty well to date by being used only when they needed to use them to show that they had them, & that theirs work.

        Reply
      • They also have no purpose when you don’t know what the nationality of your enemy is.

        Reply
        • David

           /  20th July 2016

          Nuclear weapons are not effective for that situation. I’m not sure why you would believe this means they are not useful.

          Reply
          • I didn’t imply that, but using them will typically cause collateral damage that isn’t justifiable in terms of the deterrent value.

            Reply
      • They also have no purpose if you don’t know what the nationality of your enemy is.

        Reply
  12. Gezza

     /  20th July 2016

    In an excerpt from a speech by The Donald on Al Jazeera news Trump said (roughly) when he becomes President – “We’re going to:
    * Bring back jobs
    * Rebuild our depleted military, & look after our veterans
    * Get rid of ISIS
    * Have strong borders, and
    * Restore law & order – because it must be restored.”

    There’s few things in there that are actually a bit of a concern.

    Reply
    • @ Gezza – Yeah, right!???

      * Bring back jobs? From where, China? Korea? Japan? Yeah, right, and put the price of everything up.
      * Gotta admit, he’s got me on the military thing. The USA’s military is really depleted. Yeah … right! And “Look after our veterans” presumably by raising taxes … or perhaps by diverting new military spending …. yeah ……………. ?
      * Get rid of ISIS …. Yeah, right …..
      * Have strong borders …. Yeah … or longer tunnels or Mexican boat people … or both? Mexican pole vaulters perhaps? They’ll find a way …
      * Restore law & order …. I thought “Law & Order” was still playing on TV? Oh, he means the real thing? … In the U … S … of A …. Where people think the answer to law and order is for everyone to carry a firearm … Yeah …….. right …………….?

      Look, what’s the problem anyhow? “If Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes” he won’t be able to decipher them anyhow … they’re not big enough numbers …

      Reply
      • Gezza

         /  21st July 2016

        Heading off to bed. Don’t mind forum-chatting about his tomorrow on Open Forum if you like PZ. I think there’s a real possibility Trump will be POTUS. But I can see from that that he hasn’t got a grip on some important issues – from my perspective anyway.

        Good night PZ

        Reply

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: