Open Forum – Friday

22 July 2016

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  1. Missy

     /  22nd July 2016

    Time for a quick update before I head out.

    Theresa May & Brexit:
    TM has visited Germany and is now in France for talks with the leaders. The two visits have shown the differences within the two most powerful countries in the EU. Merkel supports Britain waiting and taking their time to trigger Article 50, though she has ruled out any talks before the triggering of Article 50 (despite a number of leaders from smaller EU countries indicating an interest to conduct informal talks). Hollande on the other hand is expected to demand justification for the delay in triggering Article 50. France has also said there will be no trade deal without free movement, the PM earlier today seemed to suggest that there will be high tariffs on UK products in the EU, whilst the UK will have no tariffs – I don’t think he truly understands what is meant by a Free Trade deal, it isn’t a deal where one side has free trade and the other doesn’t. Whilst Germany have also indicated that free movement will have to be a condition of a FTA, I think what they will find is that Britain won’t sign a deal, which in the long run will cause issues for Germany and Merkel. The powerful Business Lobby group in Germany have already begun lobbying the German Government for there to be a FTA with the UK to avoid tariffs.

    On the whole I think most of it – especially the French side – is just posturing. The French will be worried, they have an election soon (next year I think) and each terrorist attack means that the Far Right and Euro sceptic parties gain support, the chances of a new leader being elected that will hold a referendum on EU membership gets more real each time there is an attack. For the first time the other day Hollande was booed at a visit to the site of a terror attack, he is losing support.

    Laobur:
    This has been the most interesting today.

    Corbyn launched his leadership campaign, he claims to be a PM in waiting, and also that Labour are stronger under his leadership. He says that they can and will win the next GE. He has also said that there should be a snap election, he seems to be more deluded each day about how popular he is. He takes twitter and Social Media popularity as being popular in the whole country, he seems to not realise that outside of the elite in London Labour are losing support.

    Corbyn gets the prize for creepiest moment of the Labour leadership campaign, he launched his campaign surrounded by supporters – who all happened to be young women. It just looked really creepy to see this old man surrounded by adoring women, a bit North Korea like really.

    Corbyn was heavily criticised by Owen Smith today for his performance at PMQs. Smith has said that Corbyn doesn’t have what it takes to go head to head with the Tories in the Commons. Diane Abbott (a Corbyn supporter) claimed this morning that the reason Corbyn looked bad in PMQs is because the Labour MPs didn’t cheer loud enough when he came into the commons.

    Angela Eagle has been told by the Police not to hold open surgeries – meetings where her constituents can just drop in to talk about whatever they want. This is due to safety, Angela Eagle has had death threats, and it is believed that there is a risk to her. On that, Owen Smith has also had death threats for running against Corbyn, and Corbyn refuses to condemn these threats from his supporters.

    Corbyn has also said all Labour MPs will need to be re-selected by their local parties for the next GE, effectively sacking them as most of the local parties are stacked with Momentum and Corbyn supporters, it is believed he is trying to stack the Labour MPs with his supporters to lessen the risk of trouble. There have been a number of threats from Momentum members in social media, and one tweeted about killing all of the traitorous MPs who voted against Corbyn. It is getting really nasty, and Corbyn is doing nothing about it.

    I think that is enough for today.

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  2. Gezza

     /  22nd July 2016

    Ronya Missy 🙂

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  3. Missy

     /  22nd July 2016

    In other news. There was an attempted abduction of an airman outside an RAF base. The man who approached the airman had a knife, he was fought off by the airman, and at that time a second man approached. The airman fought them off, and they drove away. The local police are keeping an open mind, but a source in the RAF has apparently indicated that the RAF are treating it as being terror related – which the police are now also considering.

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  4. Gezza

     /  22nd July 2016

    YNZ SURVEY – PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES – WHO WOULD YOU VOTE FOR?

    Doin a survey here. If you personally were eligible to vote for President of the USA, who would you vote for?

    Upticks = Trump
    Downticks = Clinton

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    • Nelly Smickers

       /  22nd July 2016

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    • Corky

       /  22nd July 2016

      Click me in for Trumpy, Gezza. I can’t up or downvote.

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      • Gezza

         /  22nd July 2016

        Hi I’m back. The power bill came in a bit heavier than I expected, so I’ve just done a quick 90 minutes begging outside McDonalds’ in Porirua & have got it covered for next month as well now I reckon.

        Has Al checked in & voted yet? Hard to pick which way he’ll go …

        Hills is doing better than I expected so must be a few swinging voters who’ve seen Trump sound too much like Adolf Godwin & got shit-scared – or otherwise the same people are voting more than once or something.

        Anyway … the final votes should be in by close of poll at 11.59pm, so I’ll announce the official results tomorrow morning sometime.

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        • Gezza

           /  22nd July 2016

          3:28pm

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        • Gezza

           /  22nd July 2016

          😐 It’s not looking good for Trump, from exit polls so far. Not that long to go till close of polls and final count. Can’t understand it. :/ Thought most posters here would favour Trump. Unusually high turnout of extremely young voters maybe? o_O

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          • Gezza

             /  22nd July 2016

            11:27pm

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          • Corky

             /  22nd July 2016

            I’m not surprised. There is , to my knowledge, only one confirmed Trump supporter on this site…me!

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            • Gezza

               /  22nd July 2016

              No – there’s Al, & I voted for him. Looks like there’s 10 others. Dunno how many Blazers there are but I reckon they’re maybe voting for Hillers.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  22nd July 2016

    • Gezza

       /  23rd July 2016

      OK. Final Count. Official Results are:
      Trump – 13
      Clinton – 40

      This Forum would have elected Clinton President of the United States. No late votes are allowed.

      12.11am

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  5. lurcher1948

     /  22nd July 2016

    Donald just stated that America will win a war(knock me over with a feather)it been such a while……

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  22nd July 2016

      They’ll have to start it first, but that’s a mere detail.

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  6. Nelly Smickers

     /  22nd July 2016

    Katie Hopkins just sent me a tweet….

    USA ❗ USA ❗ USA ❗

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    • Gezza

       /  22nd July 2016

      Really !? Ivanka, the next woman in the White House? Presidential Dynasty?
      Well … I guess anythings’s possible – it is America….

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      • lurcher1948

         /  22nd July 2016

        Are you saying trumps bonked avanka thats how you turn orange with a strange hairstyle

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        • Gezza

           /  22nd July 2016

          Gidday Lurch. How wuz the hols away from the prols? Did ya have fun? Wasn’t anything in the papers here about a Salty Old Dog kiwi gettin arrested for riotous behaviour in the islands – so maybe ya just had a nice quiet time?

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          • lurcher1948

             /  22nd July 2016

            Hi Gezza i have returned from Papeeate Bora Bora and the MARQUESAS ISLANDS expensive but as a pensioner YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT,HA enjoy

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            • Gezza

               /  22nd July 2016

              Hope ya got the runs at least once Lurch. Hopefully twice. Still luv ya like a donkey tho. 🙂

            • patupaiarehe

               /  22nd July 2016

              LOL! I could…but I won’t. 😉 😀

      • Nelly Smickers

         /  22nd July 2016

        Welcome back Lurchey!! Nice to see the voice of reason return o_O

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        • Gezza

           /  22nd July 2016

          Wot’ve you said to poor Kitty Nelly? Hope you haven’t annoyed her …

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          • Nelly Smickers

             /  22nd July 2016

            I’m sure she’ll be up soon XD

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  22nd July 2016

            Such feeble spite isn’t worth being annoyed by. Poor Nelly still thinks that tweets are personal rather than being sent to everyone on a large list and the sender really is a friend.

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        • Gezza

           /  22nd July 2016

          I don’t think Lurch is being entirely fair to me, Nellers. I defended him while he was away. Some rotter posted here after he left on his trip that he wasn’t fit to sleep with pigs. I stuck up for him tho. I said he was !

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    • Nelly Smickers

       /  22nd July 2016

      That was the most interesting speech I’ve ever heard since our wedding day…..when Wayne’s *Best Man* stood up and put his pot on 😡

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  7. lurcher1948

     /  22nd July 2016

    http://dilbert.com/strip/2016-07-21 there are right wing nutters out there CAUTION

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