Labour supports spy bill

Labour say they will support the Intelligence and Security Bill being introduced to parliament this week through the first reading and intend to push for some improvements at committee stage.

This is a sensible and responsible approach.

It is important that all parties work together to ensure we end up with the best protection possible but keep the best protections possible for privacy of individuals.


Better balance needed in Intelligence Bill

Press Release: New Zealand Labour Party

Andrew Little

Leader of the Opposition

Labour will support the NZ Intelligence and Security Bill to select committee so the issues can be debated nationwide and important amendments can be made, says Opposition Leader Andrew Little.

“The legislation controlling the work and scope of New Zealand’s Intelligence and Security agencies needs to be updated so they can adapt to a rapidly changing environment and new challenges. However this must be balanced with the privacy and rights of all New Zealanders.

“The Cullen Reddy Review showed that amending legislation is necessary. While we will support the Bill at first reading, it does not get the balance quite right. I have confidence changes can be made at select committee which is why Labour will support the Bill at first reading.

“There are concerns in the Bill that Labour wants to see addressed. The definition of National Security must be amended at Select Committee following a national debate. At present the definition is too broad and must be narrowed down to actual threats to security and government.

“It is also concerning that the legislation appears to have ignored a number of the protections for personal information suggested by the Cullen Reddy Review. These are vital and must be a part of the legislation. In today’s world it is too easy to ignore privacy concerns and we have seen what happens in the past when protections aren’t clear.

“Labour is supporting the Bill through its first reading in good faith that these changes can be made. These will result in a better piece of law that gets the balance between security and privacy right,” says Andrew Little.

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20 Comments

  1. Gezza

     /  15th August 2016

    Andy gets it right. Another small one on the board.

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  2. Blazer

     /  16th August 2016

    Andy gets it wrong…another lost vote.When the elected govt already games the OIA ,what will prevent them using these new powers for their own political benefit.The passive acceptance of Stasi legislation in NZ is an indictment on apathy.

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    • Gezza

       /  16th August 2016

      No I think this is the right thing to do Blaze. The current legislation is defective & there does need to be a more joined up approach to protecting the population from criminal & security threats.This is where security services have failed in other countries.

      Opposing it is pointless, the government has the numbers. Far better to let it be introduced & raise merry hell about its deficiencies. The challenge for opposition parties will be their effectiveness in getting those spelled out to the public, & getting their (and thus the government’s) attention.

      Going for more solid, better Parliamentary oversight and a proper definition of ‘national security’ – & highlighting any potential for government or Ministerial or security services misdemeanours seem to me to be the things they should be working on now.

      I’m a historian of sorts. I am under no illusions about how easy it is for a democratic society to be subverted in the right circumstances by a strong leader & a malignant administration.

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  3. Blazer

     /  16th August 2016

    This is the most untrustworthy administration in living memory.The P.M and his lies set a terrible example for the rest of his ministers.’Virtual’ land to build on,invisible ‘flying squads’,ministers who do not know left from right and so on.

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    • Gezza

       /  16th August 2016

      So what’s the solution? Didn’t Op 8 happen under a Labour administration?

      Do you favour armed insurrection perhaps?

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      • Blazer

         /  16th August 2016

        What domestic or international threats to NZ have you identified so far?

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        • Gezza

           /  16th August 2016

          Well, I’m a bit worried about you on the domestic front. Your aggressive sniping at the government & your hyperbole could perhaps morph into something more sinister?

          And on the international front – there are supercrims, and – things I can’t speak about here.

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          • Gezza

             /  16th August 2016

            PS: Aren’t we now involved in helping Muslims to kill other Muslims overseas, and could the US embassy and us be a very weak target for attacks in revenge for that by Muslim terrorist sympathisers? Have a think about any other threats there might actually be yourself – I’m a bit busy off & on at the moment. Get back to me

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            • Blazer

               /  16th August 2016

              P.S….you offer the solution to a manufactured threat of cause and effect.Well done.

            • Gezza

               /  16th August 2016

              I cannot be held responsible for your wilful ignorance.

            • Gezza

               /  16th August 2016

              Downticking honest opinion already? Sorry Blaze. I don’t have time for your pettiness this morning. I see little sign of your growing out of. Might catch up again later.

            • Sebbie

               /  16th August 2016

              We are not downticking “honest opinion” we’re down ticking your pathetic sycophantic desire to say “yes sir” “no sir” and let the government walk all over people and do whatever they want no matter how bad for New Zealanders. Reading our emails is very unlikely to stop any psychopath who wants to shoot up or bomb people. The Orlando shooting for example was no kind of organized terrorist threat where he sent any emails that would be helpful to the govt. He was just angry that he was gay so he shot up a gay nightclub and he happened to have Muslim parents so that gave him the idea to copy terrorists acts. But no you think we should all lick John Key’s boots and say yes to every idea he has no matter how bad for New Zealand. It isn’t an “honest opinion” because you aren’t bothering to think at all, you’re just telling the rest of us that we shouldn’t bother to think but should just lie down and take whatever because John Key made millions through selling alcoholic poison to the people of New Zealand (vineyards) so we should respect that in your opinion.

            • Gezza

               /  16th August 2016

              Hello Sebbie. You sound nice. How many of you are there?

          • Blazer

             /  16th August 2016

            fillpancy -how profound.

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            • Blazer

               /  16th August 2016

              flippancy

            • Gezza

               /  16th August 2016

              Who’d have thought anyone would be flippant here eh?
              Certainly never you eh?

            • Gezza

               /  16th August 2016

              8:10 am

            • Blazer

               /  16th August 2016

              I didn’t downtick you ,you paranoid flake.

            • Gezza

               /  16th August 2016

              Really? Sorry Blaze. I must have another unseen schoolgirl fan who hasn’t been posting here lately. It’s just that she seems to downtick as soon as I post anything, and usually when you’re here thanking me for my views.

            • Gezza

               /  16th August 2016

              8:37am
              Dunno why comments of mine just don’t appear in the Recent Comments list until another post is made sometimes. Probably the government’s fault I suppose.

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