Easter Sunday trading

Despite some very vocal opposition Parliament today passed a bill that gives local councils the power to allow trading on Easter Sunday.

This will sort of allow tidying up a messy situation where tourist towns Queenstown and Taupo can currently open on Easter Sunday but nearby tourist towns like Wanaka and Rotorua can’t.

I understand that religious people don’t want to go shopping in Easter Sunday but why should that prevent those who do want to trade and shop to do so?

It was ugly in Parliament today.

Stuff: Nod for Easter Sunday trading law gives councils power to decide

The Government has handed councils the power to decide if shops can open on Easter Sunday ending a decades-long parliamentary impasse and after a dozen previous attempts.

After an insult-laden debate in the house, in which one MP was kicked out, the bill passed by a narrow majority of 62 votes to 59. 

National MPs opted to back the bill along party lines, leading to impassioned pleas from the opposition for them to ignore orders and cross the floor to vote according to their conscience. 

Labour MP Sue Moroney was booted out of the house, for the first time, for calling Immigration Minister Michael Woodhouse “gutless”.

She said National MPs were “hypocritical”, attending church in their electorates, only to come to the House and vote the other way. 

Speaker David Carter asked Moroney to withdraw her comments, which she did, only to reiterate her point.

So she ignored a warning and defied the Speaker.

Labour MP Iain Lees-Galloway backed Moroney in a fiery speech, calling upon National MPs to “get some guts”.

“The Government … is passing the buck on an issue, which is fundamental to the role of the New Zealand Parliament.

“This legislation is shambolic, it is going to create inconsistencies around the country,” Lees-Galloway said. 

But National MPs said the law would “give power back to the local community”.

Jami-Lee Ross said it was “a process issue that should be given to local authorities”.

Ross accused Labour of “awful tactics”, using ethnic and religious rhetoric in their protest against the bill. 

Some of the attempted religious coercion that I heard was awful tactics.

Like Saturday trading and Sunday trading I think this will be largely forgotten in a year or two.

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  1. Alan Wilkinson

     /  25th August 2016

    I presume that breaks the old impasse where local councils had previously given random exemptions but these were frozen in time as they could no longer be varied. Classic bureaucratic fatuous nonsense. In our area Paihia had been given an exemption decades ago but Russell hadn’t been. Luckily no-one took a blind bit of notice of the law up here and it was too far away for the bureaucrats to bother posturing about it.

    Otherwise I would have had a few more strung up on my fence.

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  2. patupaiarehe

     /  25th August 2016

    IMHO Easter trading restrictions are not dissimilar to imposing Sharia law. They are the beliefs of a minority being imposed on others. If you object to Easter trading, then don’t shop, simple as that. And as for people being ‘forced’ to work, I’m sure they are really upset at being paid more, and having a paid day in lieu as well. Many years ago when I worked at a servo, I used to love getting rostered on stat days…

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  3. “It was ugly in Parliament today.”

    Today … Really …?

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    • How long since we developed our neoliberal “media induced” 24/7 compulsive shopping mentality in Godzone? Let’s say … 1986?

      “After 30 years he still grieves …”

      Such ‘delayed reaction’ between social acceptance and legislative ‘permission’ – in this case 3 decades – also evidenced in the likes of homosexual law reform & civil unions, women’s rights and Women’s and Maori enfranchisement … et al – does not bode well for cannabis law reform or Death with Dignity…?

      See also “Parliament impeding social reform” ….

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      • patupaiarehe

         /  25th August 2016

        IMHO freedom of religion comes with the obligation not to impose your religion on others.

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        • Blazer

           /  25th August 2016

          agree and with your position on Easter trading.

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          • patupaiarehe

             /  25th August 2016

            Well done Blazer. So tell me again why you wasted your time trying to wind me up… 😛

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  26th August 2016

              So shop workers should lose one more of their few guaranteed days off because people can’t organise themselves to do their shopping on the other 360 (or so) days in the year ?

            • Blazer

               /  26th August 2016

              I thought your battery ..might be…flat.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  26th August 2016

              @Kitty Please correct me if I am wrong, but doesn’t NZ employment law guarantee them four weeks off per year?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  26th August 2016

              Yes, but Christmas Day and a few other public holidays are not included in this, they are extra by definition. It would be very unjust if shopworkers had to count public holidays as annual leave when other people have these as well as theirs.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  26th August 2016

              Yes indeed, stat days are not included in the annual leave figure. That was not my point. If they work a stat day, they get time and a half, plus a paid day in lieu. Like I said above, back before I got a trade and worked in an almost minimum wage job, I loved working stat days. My boss would also pay me out my lieu day, by rostering me on when I wasn’t needed and paying me when I didn’t turn up (my idea, not his).

  4. Zedd

     /  25th August 2016

    Its interesting that Easter is supposedly a representation of the time of JC being crucified & resurrected.. BUT I’ve heard that its actually a pagan spring festival of Ishtar.

    Same with Sunday worship.. its a pagan ‘Sun worship day’. The biblical Sabbath is apparently SATURDAY !

    So; most of what the catholics (& many christians churches) teach is reportedly total Misinformation anyway ?

    Each to their own I guess… :/

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    • patupaiarehe

       /  25th August 2016

      Don’t get me started Zedd 🙂

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    • Missy

       /  26th August 2016

      If I remember correctly the reason the catholic/Christian churches changed some of their religious festivals from the traditional Jewish festivals was to pacify the pagans, and be more inclusive. Over the centuries they have just taken the festivals over and promoted them as Christian. For many of the festivals they also took on many of the pagan traditions as well. I think Easter (when it was a pagan festival) was related to spring and the harvest – hence the egg symbolising new life, not 100% sure on that though.

      So technically not misinformation, just a hijacking of other festivals for their own propaganda. 🙂

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  5. patupaiarehe

     /  25th August 2016

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    • Zedd

       /  25th August 2016

      @patu

      you got it !

      There is still some doubt that ‘Jesus’ was a actual man OR was he a composite of several ‘messianic figures’ of that time : Mithras, Apollonius, Buddha, John the baptist etc. Most of these other characters are verified in other writings, besides the Bible.. BUT is ‘Jesus’ ?
      The Qur’an/Koran mentions him (called: Issa bin Mariam) but it was written about 600 years after he supposedly died.

      In the Bible it says Mary & Joseph fled to Egypt & took Jesus.. where he grew up.. there are even allegations that ‘Christianity/The Way’ was just a transplanted version of the Religion of the Pharoahs ??

      Ive also heard that most of the writings of ‘the new testament’ were from Saul of Tarsus (aka Apostle Paul) who supposedly had a ‘conversion on the Damascus Rd’ BUT actually made it all up to corrupt ‘the WAY’ of the Christians whom he hatred !
      He being a Jewish Pharisee (who didnt really believe that ‘Jesus’ was the ‘promised messiah’ foretold in the Jewish Old Testament )

      GO FIGURE.. myths & legends !? :/

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      • patupaiarehe

         /  25th August 2016

        Just speaking for myself, I believe that the realities of today need my immediate attention, and I’ll deal with 2000 year old myths when I have time…

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      • To me my life is an experience …

        To anyone else, my life is a story …

        … the one they invent … the one I tell them …

        “I wonder … Yes, I do …
        And I wonder if you wonder too?
        And if you wonder why you do?”

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  6. Kitty Catkin

     /  26th August 2016

    I have enough sympathy for shopworkers to feel indignant that their rights to have some guaranteed days off are being eroded. Next they’ll lose Christmas Day so that people who can’t last a day without going shopping can have their fix. Heaven forbid that a shopworker’s wish to have these days with their family should be more important than someone’s inability to find some other way to occupy themselves.

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    • patupaiarehe

       /  26th August 2016

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  26th August 2016

        I take it that you have never worked in a shop. Shopworkers are entitled to the same rights as other workers, I believe. Hospital and emergency workers know that they will have to work on some public holidays, but shopping is hardly an emergency. Hotel workers do, of course, as otherwise the guests would be on the street, but nobody is likely to suffer hardship if they can’t go shopping 365 days a year. Who would want to, anyway, unless they were a shopaholic ?

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        • patupaiarehe

           /  26th August 2016

          Well actually Kitty, I used to work at a gas station, like I said above. A stat day worked meant 2 and a half times my normal pay for that shift. Which was just great 🙂

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          • Gezza

             /  26th August 2016

            As an auld scortsmun ah yewsed tae knaw wunce poot et, patu …

            Sum peepul jost poot theyre fanggers un theyre earrrs and goah tang-a-lang-a-looo!

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            • patupaiarehe

               /  26th August 2016

              Funny G, I work with a Scotsman and he sounds just like that 😀

            • Gezza

               /  26th August 2016

              Ae laddie. They orlwez dooo. They neverr seem tae looze et!

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