On The Nation this morning Winston Peters did some more grumbling about the recently announced New Zealand People’s Party, saying he is utterly opposed to it.
So what? It’s none of his business whether anyone else wants to start up a new party or not.
Peters seems to be utterly opposed to existing parties too, like the Maori Party, United Future, the Green Party, the Mana Party. He seems to be utterly opposed to immigration. He seems to be opposed to anything that’s not him.
Newshub: New Zealand People’s Party is a ‘National Party front’ – Winston Peters
New Zealand First leader Winston Peters has lashed out again at the new Indian-led New Zealand People’s Party, accusing it of being a front for the National Party.
Speaking to TV3’s The Nation, Mr Peters accused the New Zealand People’s Party of trying to split the Labour vote in the Mt Roskill electorate, thus enabling National to win the seat.
Peters played parties, especially National and Labour, in the Northland by-election, enabling him to win. That’s called politics. Peters just doesn’t seem to like it when anyone else does it.
“It splits other party’s votes… They’re setting up a movement based on race and my party is utterly opposed to it.”
Any party can split other parties votes, that’s sort of a fundamental of politics and elections.
I don’t know if the New Zealand People’s Party is based on race. I haven’t seem them say anything about limiting membership to Indians or to immigrants. But they can try whatever they like.
The Winston movement is based on age (sort of, one of his key demographics is the Grey vote).
When the New Zealand Seniors Party was announced in June Peters also slagged them off – see Peters unimpressed with new ‘disgruntled pensioners’ party.
Peters seems to think he owns the grumpy old man vote.
What he may really be grumpy about regarding the expected Roskill by-election is that he is unlikely to have much influence there, especially if he bitches about immigrants daring to propose new parties.
But Winston being Winston anything that gives him a chance to stir up anti-immigration sentiment he will play as much as he can, even if there’s no short term gain for him.
Peters seems to have an arrogance that shows as petulance against any peasants if they threaten his role as king (maker).
Whoever is behind the People’s Party, and whoever they try to attract as members and voters, is none of Winston’s business.
Tipene
/ 3rd September 2016Doesn’t matter what new parties call themselves – with no electorate seat, and the 5% threshold now exceeding 120,000 votes – tell ’em they’re dreamin’
Pete Kane
/ 3rd September 2016What about with an early (or late) Christmas present – Pakuranga?
Pete Kane
/ 3rd September 2016I meant early in terms of agreement, not this cycle.
Pete George
/ 3rd September 2016There’s a few potential by-elections coming up.
If there’s several it will stretch party resources, especially Labour’s.
Zedd
/ 3rd September 2016methinks Winston is probably right.. ‘Team key’ are struggling to maintain any potential coalition partners & so their ‘Indian/Asian-wing’ have cobbled together this B-S party, create further division in Aotearoa/NZ (on the ‘centre-right’ !)
lurcher1948
/ 3rd September 2016GASP hasn’t john key promised the indian vote the right to own all corner shops in New Zealand. This is what happens when MAX dominates his father and key isn’t on top of his game.
Kitty Catkin
/ 3rd September 2016That’s so asinine that there’s no point in trying to refute it-anyone who’ll believe that will be incapable of following or having reasoned thought.
Lurcher’s a few currants short of a rock cake, I fear. A few fish short of an aquarium. A few steps short of a ladder. A few sheets short of a dunny roll. A few bristles short of a brush.
lurcher1948
/ 3rd September 2016KITTY you seem the sort who wears her briefs the WRONG WAY around,not a nice lady
Kitty Catkin
/ 3rd September 2016He is as entitled as anyone else to be agin it-but there’s a difference between being agin it and thinking that ergo it should not exist. If I want to waste time, money and energy starting up a Maltese Terrier Party, it’s my business. But those opposed really ought to have a reason-they think that there are not enough Maltese Terriers to to make it worth doing and it’s splitting the animal rights’ vote-not just think that their dislike of these dogs is a good enough reason to oppose it.
Nelly Smickers
/ 3rd September 2016Wayne siad he’d vote for you Kitzy XD
Pete Kane
/ 3rd September 2016Ms Kitty’s dog seems, well , gregarious – worse traits in a politician’s dog.
lurcher1948
/ 3rd September 2016Aotearoa/NZ…… Zedd i live in NEW ZEALAND not fucken aotearoa some shit name out of the book called DUNE written by Frank Herbert
PS im Not a pakeha im a New Zealander
PPS Maoris are not horis
Kitty Catkin
/ 3rd September 2016As the name Aotearoa was current before 1855 and Dune was written in 1965, I think that the name is unlikely to have originated there.
Iceberg
/ 3rd September 2016It’s after 3. No point rationalising with Lurch now. He’s sober on Tuesday’s, try again then.
Pete Kane
/ 3rd September 2016Credit where credits due – you have chosen your pseudonym well.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 3rd September 2016Geez, I hope his dog doesn’t drink too. They’d be a great pair barking up the wrong tree.
Pete Kane
/ 3rd September 2016Be nice – you’re provincial buddies. Well sub-provincial to be precise. (A Provence of Auckland which is a Provence of us – Wellington)
lurcher1948
/ 3rd September 2016Alan i have 3 rescued dogs and right wing insults are SO weak, no effect
Alan Wilkinson
/ 3rd September 2016Not really trying for an insult, Lurch. I was just imagining you needing company for your anger and tipple. Why are you so angry?
lurcher1948
/ 3rd September 2016Thats harsh Iceberg, not the way to talk to a pakeha,,,,just saying
Blazer
/ 3rd September 2016you would know,I see you have learned not to post when you’re 1/2 cut.
lurcher1948
/ 3rd September 2016I haven’t
lurcher1948
/ 3rd September 2016Harsh
lurcher1948
/ 3rd September 2016No one likes a smarty or a brown whitey called a uncle tom
lurcher1948
/ 3rd September 2016Wow Kitty you read above the WOMENS WEEKLY i never thought you had it in you
lurcher1948
/ 3rd September 2016KITTY who would have thought ,like a shark to blood
Zedd
/ 3rd September 2016@lurcher
OK.. so, whats your point ?
duperez
/ 3rd September 2016I would have thought it as much Peters’ business as anyone’s – no more no less. The same as anyone making pronouncements and passing opinion about any political party, whether they should exist and what they should and shouldn’t stand for or do.
Many have plenty to say about the Greens, and National, and Labour. And had to say about the party that Dotcom was mixed up with. Party leaders have plenty to say about other parties.
Peters probably did it to get publicity. If so, he is succeeding.
dave1924
/ 3rd September 2016Its getting crowded….. race based parties are not something to encourage in my view. I see them as creating us versus them mentalities. But they are legal and so fair play.
If the NZPP gets established it will be interesting to see their influence in Auckland. And where their funding comes from – any hint of Chinese state or state controlled money out of the PRC should see an end of the Party immediately.
I expect Winnie will make the accusation at some stage under the cover of Parliamentary privilege….
PartisanZ
/ 4th September 2016@ dave1924 – “race based parties … creating us versus them mentalities”
Really? Are you serious? “Us versus Them” mentalities is the basis of all Party politics! Possibly all politics as we know it …
dave1924
/ 4th September 2016PnZ… race based parties are the last thing NZ needs. Putting a division between people and how government treats them based on their race is the antithesis of what NZ should be…
But you keep on justifying those race based policies and parties by saying that’s just politics. Just don’t whine when Maori miss out because the NZPP hold the balance of power and the policies flow to help their constituency.
lurcher1948
/ 3rd September 2016WOW i seem to fired up so many insecured key lovers,what were we discussing???
just asking
patupaiarehe
/ 3rd September 2016patupaiarehe
/ 3rd September 2016Mission accomplished for you then Lurcher. Why pretend you care what was being discussed….
Pete Kane
/ 3rd September 2016Let’s just make pseudonyms the appropriate exception, rather than the rule.
Gezza
/ 3rd September 2016“Peters seems to think he owns the grumpy old man vote.”
Seems fair.
The Greens seem to have the grumpy alternatve artists & musicians whose art & music makes everybody cringe vote.
Maori party have the grumpy Maori vote – except Hone’s, but he’s grumpy about them too so they’ll just have to work that out.
Andy seems to have the grumpy everybody else vote.
Blazer
/ 3rd September 2016ands who have the Natz captured?
Gezza
/ 3rd September 2016Right wing, centre, disgruntled left wing, the doing ok so no need to be grumpy people.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 3rd September 2016The not as grumpy as Lurch and Blazer people: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/02/is-anyone-really-surprised-that-right-wingers-have-better-sex-li/
Blazer
/ 3rd September 2016no one is surprised that right wingers have more sex,more kinky sex,more paid for sex,…the Wolf of Wall sT is pretty true to form,and then the confessions of brothel madams confirm the finance sector ,the parasites of society get more p2p pussy than anyone!
lurcher1948
/ 3rd September 2016Thanks PG for the chance to post (a great Blog) as a neutral voter i seem to cope flack for some unknown reason,people seem to be under so much stress,must be john key and national as they are running the show???just saying
Alan Wilkinson
/ 3rd September 2016You took it well today, Lurch. Congrats.
Pete Kane
/ 3rd September 2016“You took it well today, Lurch. Congrats” – I love coned beef, but maybe not for a day or three..
Gezza
/ 3rd September 2016I try and remain above it all Pete. That’s Ken’s advice. And Ken agrees with him. They just try to drag you down to their level, Ken reckoned.
Righto Ken, I said. And the other Ken said – Story!
Pete Kane
/ 4th September 2016My oath Ken.