People’s Party none of Peters’ business

On The Nation this morning Winston Peters did some more grumbling about the recently announced New Zealand People’s Party, saying he is utterly opposed to it.

So what? It’s none of his business whether anyone else wants to start up a new party or not.

Peters seems to be utterly opposed to existing parties too, like the Maori Party, United Future, the Green Party, the Mana Party. He seems to be utterly opposed to immigration. He seems to be opposed to anything that’s not him.

Newshub: New Zealand People’s Party is a ‘National Party front’ – Winston Peters

New Zealand First leader Winston Peters has lashed out again at the new Indian-led New Zealand People’s Party, accusing it of being a front for the National Party.

Speaking to TV3’s The Nation, Mr Peters accused the New Zealand People’s Party of trying to split the Labour vote in the Mt Roskill electorate, thus enabling National to win the seat.

Peters played parties, especially National and Labour, in the Northland by-election, enabling him to win. That’s called politics. Peters just doesn’t seem to like it when anyone else does it.

“It splits other party’s votes… They’re setting up a movement based on race and my party is utterly opposed to it.”

Any party can split other parties votes, that’s sort of a fundamental of politics and elections.

I don’t know if the New Zealand People’s Party is based on race. I haven’t seem them say anything about limiting membership to Indians or to immigrants. But they can try whatever they like.

The Winston movement is based on age (sort of, one of his key demographics is the Grey vote).

When the New Zealand Seniors Party was announced in June Peters also slagged them off – see Peters unimpressed with new ‘disgruntled pensioners’ party.

Peters seems to think he owns the grumpy old man vote.

What he may really be grumpy about regarding the expected Roskill by-election is that he is unlikely to have much influence there, especially if he bitches about immigrants daring to propose new parties.

But Winston being Winston anything that gives him a chance to stir up anti-immigration sentiment he will play as much as he can, even if there’s no short term gain for him.

Peters seems to have an arrogance that shows as petulance against any peasants if they threaten his role as king (maker).

Whoever is behind the People’s Party, and whoever they try to attract as members and voters, is none of Winston’s business.

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45 Comments

  1. Tipene

     /  3rd September 2016

    Doesn’t matter what new parties call themselves – with no electorate seat, and the 5% threshold now exceeding 120,000 votes – tell ’em they’re dreamin’

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  2. Pete Kane

     /  3rd September 2016

    What about with an early (or late) Christmas present – Pakuranga?

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  3. Zedd

     /  3rd September 2016

    methinks Winston is probably right.. ‘Team key’ are struggling to maintain any potential coalition partners & so their ‘Indian/Asian-wing’ have cobbled together this B-S party, create further division in Aotearoa/NZ (on the ‘centre-right’ !) :/

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  4. lurcher1948

     /  3rd September 2016

    GASP hasn’t john key promised the indian vote the right to own all corner shops in New Zealand. This is what happens when MAX dominates his father and key isn’t on top of his game.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  3rd September 2016

      That’s so asinine that there’s no point in trying to refute it-anyone who’ll believe that will be incapable of following or having reasoned thought.

      Lurcher’s a few currants short of a rock cake, I fear. A few fish short of an aquarium. A few steps short of a ladder. A few sheets short of a dunny roll. A few bristles short of a brush.

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      • lurcher1948

         /  3rd September 2016

        KITTY you seem the sort who wears her briefs the WRONG WAY around,not a nice lady

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  5. Kitty Catkin

     /  3rd September 2016

    He is as entitled as anyone else to be agin it-but there’s a difference between being agin it and thinking that ergo it should not exist. If I want to waste time, money and energy starting up a Maltese Terrier Party, it’s my business. But those opposed really ought to have a reason-they think that there are not enough Maltese Terriers to to make it worth doing and it’s splitting the animal rights’ vote-not just think that their dislike of these dogs is a good enough reason to oppose it.

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  6. lurcher1948

     /  3rd September 2016

    Aotearoa/NZ…… Zedd i live in NEW ZEALAND not fucken aotearoa some shit name out of the book called DUNE written by Frank Herbert
    PS im Not a pakeha im a New Zealander
    PPS Maoris are not horis

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  3rd September 2016

      As the name Aotearoa was current before 1855 and Dune was written in 1965, I think that the name is unlikely to have originated there.

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      • Iceberg

         /  3rd September 2016

        It’s after 3. No point rationalising with Lurch now. He’s sober on Tuesday’s, try again then.

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        • Pete Kane

           /  3rd September 2016

          Credit where credits due – you have chosen your pseudonym well.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  3rd September 2016

          Geez, I hope his dog doesn’t drink too. They’d be a great pair barking up the wrong tree.

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          • Pete Kane

             /  3rd September 2016

            Be nice – you’re provincial buddies. Well sub-provincial to be precise. (A Provence of Auckland which is a Provence of us – Wellington)

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          • lurcher1948

             /  3rd September 2016

            Alan i have 3 rescued dogs and right wing insults are SO weak, no effect

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  3rd September 2016

              Not really trying for an insult, Lurch. I was just imagining you needing company for your anger and tipple. Why are you so angry?

        • lurcher1948

           /  3rd September 2016

          Thats harsh Iceberg, not the way to talk to a pakeha,,,,just saying

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        • Blazer

           /  3rd September 2016

          you would know,I see you have learned not to post when you’re 1/2 cut.

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        • lurcher1948

           /  3rd September 2016

          Harsh

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      • lurcher1948

         /  3rd September 2016

        No one likes a smarty or a brown whitey called a uncle tom

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      • lurcher1948

         /  3rd September 2016

        Wow Kitty you read above the WOMENS WEEKLY i never thought you had it in you

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      • lurcher1948

         /  3rd September 2016

        KITTY who would have thought ,like a shark to blood

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    • Zedd

       /  3rd September 2016

      @lurcher

      OK.. so, whats your point ? :/

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  7. duperez

     /  3rd September 2016

    I would have thought it as much Peters’ business as anyone’s – no more no less. The same as anyone making pronouncements and passing opinion about any political party, whether they should exist and what they should and shouldn’t stand for or do.

    Many have plenty to say about the Greens, and National, and Labour. And had to say about the party that Dotcom was mixed up with. Party leaders have plenty to say about other parties.

    Peters probably did it to get publicity. If so, he is succeeding.

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  8. Its getting crowded….. race based parties are not something to encourage in my view. I see them as creating us versus them mentalities. But they are legal and so fair play.

    If the NZPP gets established it will be interesting to see their influence in Auckland. And where their funding comes from – any hint of Chinese state or state controlled money out of the PRC should see an end of the Party immediately.

    I expect Winnie will make the accusation at some stage under the cover of Parliamentary privilege….

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    • @ dave1924 – “race based parties … creating us versus them mentalities”

      Really? Are you serious? “Us versus Them” mentalities is the basis of all Party politics! Possibly all politics as we know it …

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      • PnZ… race based parties are the last thing NZ needs. Putting a division between people and how government treats them based on their race is the antithesis of what NZ should be…

        But you keep on justifying those race based policies and parties by saying that’s just politics. Just don’t whine when Maori miss out because the NZPP hold the balance of power and the policies flow to help their constituency.

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  9. lurcher1948

     /  3rd September 2016

    WOW i seem to fired up so many insecured key lovers,what were we discussing???
    just asking

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  10. patupaiarehe

     /  3rd September 2016

    Mission accomplished for you then Lurcher. Why pretend you care what was being discussed….

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    • Pete Kane

       /  3rd September 2016

      Let’s just make pseudonyms the appropriate exception, rather than the rule.

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  11. Gezza

     /  3rd September 2016

    “Peters seems to think he owns the grumpy old man vote.”

    Seems fair.

    The Greens seem to have the grumpy alternatve artists & musicians whose art & music makes everybody cringe vote.

    Maori party have the grumpy Maori vote – except Hone’s, but he’s grumpy about them too so they’ll just have to work that out.

    Andy seems to have the grumpy everybody else vote.

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  12. lurcher1948

     /  3rd September 2016

    Thanks PG for the chance to post (a great Blog) as a neutral voter i seem to cope flack for some unknown reason,people seem to be under so much stress,must be john key and national as they are running the show???just saying

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  3rd September 2016

      You took it well today, Lurch. Congrats.

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      • Pete Kane

         /  3rd September 2016

        “You took it well today, Lurch. Congrats” – I love coned beef, but maybe not for a day or three..

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        • Gezza

           /  3rd September 2016

          I try and remain above it all Pete. That’s Ken’s advice. And Ken agrees with him. They just try to drag you down to their level, Ken reckoned.

          Righto Ken, I said. And the other Ken said – Story!

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