Maori party v. NZ First

The Maori Party and NZ First have been having a bit of a barney today.

It seems to have started with a chance clash between Marama Fox and a startled Richard Prosser this morning.

Newshub (includes video): Marama Fox attacks NZ First MP over Treaty let-down

Hundreds of Māori from around the country have cancelled trips to Wellington to witness the signing of Treaty settlements at Parliament on Friday.

New Zealand First has pulled its support for the settlements and that move led to a tearful and angry Māori Party co-leader confronting one of its MPs during a chance encounter in Newshub’s Parliament office.

“We’ve had tears on our phone. They’ve waited 30 years to bring this to Parliament. They’ve been dicked around enough and you buggers on a whim, on a bloody whim – you don’t even care,” she said as a Newshub camera filmed.

Te Ururoa Flavell let rip in General Debate in Parliament:

Ron Mark responded

(Thanks for the links PK)

Newshub: Taxpayers to cover travelling iwi after cancelled signing

Taxpayers will cover costs for hundreds of iwi members who have had to cancel plans to travel to Wellington to witness Treaty settlements.

The signing was put on hold after an objection from New Zealand First.

But what’s not perfect timing is Parliament extending its sitting hours to include this Friday, in order to sign off Treaty Settlements totalling almost a quarter of a billion dollars.

It’s business the Government says is being held to ransom by New Zealand First.

“It’s a stunt, it’s got the guy in the headlines. He’s out there again, using words like constitutional outrage etcetera,” complained Minister Gerry Brownlee.

Mr Peters argues the Bills contain errors, including specific wording.

“The provisions for appointed non-voted people on the committees is back in the legislation,” he says.

“There’s never really been a correlation between the word ‘merit’ and Winston Peters,” says Minister Chris Finlayson. “No, he’s just got things completely wrong.”

NZ First knows the Government has the numbers to pass the settlements – but that’s not stopping Mr Peters from holding up a stop sign.

“Foot the bill, Winston,” says Green Party’s Marama Fox.

“This is nothing more than a stunt, and you can pull out any little thing you can find to try and validate your stance – but this is a stunt, and nothing more.”

The Treaty Settlement Bills will remain on the order paper, essentially going back into the line, and with the Government’s legislative schedule full for the rest of the year, these five iwi will be waiting for some time.

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37 Comments

  1. Pete Kane

     /  21st September 2016

    I wish Te Ururoa (or anyone) had told us what this “technicality” was. And don’t blame NZ First if Gerry works on assumptions (or memory loss, ie granting early leave).

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    • Gezza

       /  21st September 2016

      Te Ururoa is, I believe, speculating, and probably correctly, that whatever objection NZF has to the 2 bills, which they have not announced as far as I know, they will be technicalities and more of a means to disrupt the process, anger & provoke the Maori party, embarrass the government for not seeing it coming that NZF had spotted an opportunity to do this when leave was granted to so many MPs and would shamelessly shit stir and cause as much trouble as possible in their time honoured fashion. That’s my take anyway.

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  2. Pete Kane

     /  21st September 2016

    Watching the 2nd act, Trevor Mallard, whether in the right or the wrong, has an innate ability, to iust make one’s skin crawl.

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  3. Pete Kane

     /  21st September 2016

    I wouldn’t entirely rule out that a not so small muck up has occurred. Would hardly be without precedence.

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    • Gezza

       /  21st September 2016

      Yes I think it has. They forgot you never trust a rat in the room not to bite you in your sleep.

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  4. Winston has spotted something he knows will bolster his voted….its that simple

    [“The provisions for appointed non-voted people on the committees is back in the legislation,” he says.]

    So what is he referring to? Iwi seats on local councils written? Or on committees that over see what? I don’t know but maybe its important from a constitutional position and maybe its a nothing. But….

    Winston knows that his constituency do not want governance roles that should be elected and are currently elected, gifted away to iwi nominees.

    Winston knows there is a solid constituency for this type of rhetoric. And they reaction today has played right into his hands…. his supporters will be lapping it up.

    Call him old, call him away in his cups and his ciggies, say he should retire or he is a disgrace. he doesn’t care what the you say, he only cares about playing to his identified audience. And never think he isn’t a cunning politician.

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  5. Pete Kane

     /  21st September 2016

    “Taxpayers will cover costs for hundreds of iwi members who have had to cancel plans to travel to Wellington to witness Treaty settlements.”
    Well that’s what I mused this morning.
    ‘I wonder if Winston has ever been cited to an Airline as an ‘extenuating circumstance’ for a refundable cancellation. Cynics, of course, will argue the Crown was paying for the airfare anyway, and on the substantially ‘Crown’ owned airline.’

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    • patupaiarehe

       /  21st September 2016

      I guess that all the National MP’s who were planning to leave Wellington before Friday will have their costs covered by the taxpayer too…

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      • patupaiarehe

         /  21st September 2016

        Which is the point they are making. Our salaried, so called representatives were about to bugger off early, on full pay. Wait for Friday, when I’m picking that all objections will be withdrawn…

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        • Gezza

           /  21st September 2016

          Even if you are correct, the rat bites will still need treating.

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          • patupaiarehe

             /  21st September 2016

            Interesting, isn’t it G, how Mr Flavell can be very fluent in English when it suits him… The Maori party are not representing the interests of their people, when they support punitive tobacco taxes, that hit those who they supposedly represent the hardest.

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          • Gezza

             /  21st September 2016

            What does that have to do with the settlements, patu?

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            • patupaiarehe

               /  21st September 2016

              They accuse Winston of ‘Grandstanding’, yet only yesterday Mr Flavell delivered a speech in parliament, in a language that a large majority of Kiwis don’t speak, just because he could…

            • Gezza

               /  21st September 2016

              And what does that have to do with the settlements patu?

            • patupaiarehe

               /  21st September 2016

              They are making a point, in the same way Mr Flavell is. Doing something to inconvenience others, just because they can. All 5 settlements will be passed, without objection on Friday. And I’m sure Mr Peters will make a point of mentioning how great it is to see the house full, for this historic occasion…

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  21st September 2016

              Identity politics.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  21st September 2016

              No Alan, just keeping them honest. And sending a message… 😛

            • Gezza

               /  21st September 2016

              Had a think. I think you are right, patu.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  21st September 2016

              Even if I’m wrong, Parliament TV will most certainly be worth watching on Friday… I’m considering taking the day off to watch it, TBH

            • Gezza

               /  21st September 2016

              Are you sure that’s a good idea? Look at the trouble that came out of MPs doing that.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  21st September 2016

              If I do it, I will still get paid, just like them. The difference is that I will claim leave, that I have accumulated by being at work, rather than pretending to be doing my job when I’m not.

            • Gezza

               /  21st September 2016

              Amen, e hoa. It’s ALWAYS good strategy to take the moral high ground where the view of the opposition is better and they have to work uphill to get it back. But there’s always fierce competition for the high ground & it’s the strategy the oppos develop for getting it back you need to watch out for. 💂 🇳🇿

            • patupaiarehe

               /  21st September 2016

              Ka kite G, I better get some sleep, and formulate a plan on how to get Friday off… 🙂

            • Gezza

               /  21st September 2016

              Ma te wa patu. Good luck, hope you can have it off on Friday.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  22nd September 2016

              Me too, and not going to work afterwards will really be the icing on the cake 😀

            • Gezza

               /  22nd September 2016

              Sounds like it’s not going to happen tomorrow. Because of what Whinny pulled the third readings have to wait until the next sitting day, and Friday’s not a sitting day. All the action was today. PK’s posted W’s performance clips.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  22nd September 2016

              I’ve watched them G, and suddenly it all makes sense. Well played Winston 😀

            • patupaiarehe

               /  22nd September 2016

              Sounds like it’s not going to happen tomorrow. Because of what Whinny pulled the third readings have to wait until the next sitting day, and Friday’s not a sitting day.

              Winston isn’t responsible for that, that is entirely National’s doing…

            • Gezza

               /  22nd September 2016

              Actually I’m quite puzzled by the whole bizzo. Winston was saying something about it supposedly being debated today and tomorrow, so it sounds like it was supposed to be but there was expectation the 3rd readings would be over quickly & they could put down the hangi & break out the Johnny Walker Black Label soon after. But now it has to wait, or will take a lot longer to crank through a full debate.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  22nd September 2016

              Check this out G
              http://www.inthehouse.co.nz/video/45673
              Look at all those empty seats, I thought the recess started tomorrow afternoon…

            • Gezza

               /  22nd September 2016

              Nah I won’t bother patu. I had Freeview Channel 31 on most of the day. The chamber was virtually empty of members except those nominated to speak. Speakers frequently addressed the gallery, which I thought was nice.

              Love to have seen on video who the feckin prat who kept shouting interjections all the way through Winnie’s speech #2 was. National bench I think. Idiot.

            • patupaiarehe

               /  22nd September 2016

              I’m pretty sure it was Chris Findlayson, though I could be wrong. My ‘inside source’ in Wellington informs me that he is known for that sort of behaviour, when things aren’t going in exactly the manner he wants them to…

  6. Don’t see an update but here is a link to Poltiks take on what Winston is on about. And frankly he is right to object..

    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/937/

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