Discharged without conviction for 4x assault

I wonder how the pakeha versus brown justice debate will treat this story.

Stuff: Wellington rugby player discharged without conviction

Wellington rugby player Losi Filipo was discharged without conviction following the assault of four people, including two women.

Police charged Filipo with assault with intent to injure, two counts of male assaults female, and injures with intent to injure following the incident.

However, Newshub said the judge opted to give Filipo a chance despite the charges demanding a starting point of at least one-and-a-half years’ imprisonment.

The Judge ruled Filipo should be able to fulfil his potential, saying  “I have to ask myself are the courts in the business of destroying people’s career prospects?”, Newshub reported.

This is not long after the much discussed case of a ‘rich white person’ who was convicted – see The Delegat sentence.

The Wellington Lions player is continuing to play for the Wellington Rugby Union after he was discharged without conviction over the assault of Greg Morgan and his three friends.

Morgan, 21, said the assault happened in October at about 3am on Wellington’s Wakefield St.

“We heard footsteps running up behind us and it was three guys looking for a fight. We repeatedly told them we didn’t want to fight and to just let us go to our car which was around the corner.

“And that’s when it started, I don’t remember much but I do remember being smashed on the ground and my head being stomped on.”

Morgan said he had a potential contract with Wellington Rugby, but following the assault he was told he could never play rugby again.

He was devastated to see the guy who took away his dream go without punishment.

“We had the same potential and it doesn’t feel right that I’m still dealing with migraines and fatigue, and he is enjoying playing rugby.”

“It’s still affecting my work and put a big dent in my builders apprenticeship.

“I feel he should have got some jail time because he’s a ticking time bomb and if he does it again he might kill someone.”

I presume this was a ‘first offence’ for Filipo that went before the Court.

But there was a white male who have Filipo a character reference – the mayor of Upper Hutt.

Upper Hutt Mayor Wayne Guppy wrote a character reference helping a promising rugby player to be discharged without conviction for a brutal assault.

Guppy declined to say who had asked him to write the reference for Filipo, but said he did not speak with the rugby player himself at any time.

I don’t know if the timing will help Guppy’s re-election chances.

40 Comments

  1. Pete Kane

     /  September 27, 2016

    Character references written by ‘prominent’ citizens, with almost (or entirely) no fist hand knowledge of the defendant, are actually pretty common.

  2. Klik Bate

     /  September 27, 2016

    With a starting point of 18 months imprisonment, Filipo was probably very lucky to have found himself before such a lenient Judge…..

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1609/S00320/sexual-predator-shown-leniency-by-judge.htm

  3. Corky

     /  September 27, 2016

    The only power a brown boy has… sport. And when that sport is rugby, he’s on the same footing as Nikolas Delega. The judge, probably liberal to start with, who has been through politically correct community courses, would have felt great compassion for this ” browny.”
    Of course if he hadn’t been rugby player, he would be doing 3 years, with a non parole period of 18 months.

    Does all this offend me. No, not really. The world isn’t fair. That doesn’t mean I believe something shouldn’t been done about such criminal sentences dished out by brainwashes judges.

  4. All the hallmarks of a dud judge. A lot of people with a conviction for the same or a lesser assault have the conviction in their history for the rest of their lives.
    How about no-one going to any thugby games where that cretin is playing ?

  5. duperez

     /  September 27, 2016

    A host on a sports radio show said as a Wellington Rugby supporter he was embarrassed for Wellington Rugby.

    The same guy who has been in raptures about Keiran Foran coming to the rugby league Warriors. So one club picks up a train wreck and is humanitarian and another picks up a train wreck and is misguided.

    Naturally I don’t expect anyone to get into a debate about the differences between the cases, as the point is about the similarity of the willingness to get someone ‘back on track.’

  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  September 27, 2016

    At least the thug didn’t get name suppression so the world knows him for what he is.

    • Joe Bloggs

       /  September 27, 2016

      Alan, let me quote you in reply…

      Given the profile of the case I can’t see the judge being anything but diligent in following the rules.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  September 27, 2016

        Probably was also but time and other expertise will tell. Irrelevant to my comment.

  7. Maggy Wassilieff

     /  September 27, 2016

    Mayor Guppy was also this young man’s rugby Coach at the time of the assault.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/84680904/Wellington-rugby-player-Losi-Filipo-unpunished-for-brutal-street-assault

  8. Kevin

     /  September 27, 2016

    Obviously his lawyer used the Lomu defence.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  September 27, 2016

      I have been unable to find any evidence of the supposed assault by Jonah Lomu. It is most likely to be an urban myth. If it happened, it would be be online somewhere, surely.

      • Kevin

         /  September 27, 2016

        Lomu makes passing reference to it in his autobiography. In the book it’s sugar-coated but the reality is he beat up a young man for his jacket so badly that the guy was crippled for life. And to all you Lomu fans out there: 1. it’s the truth, and 2. you can’t defame someone who is dead.

        This is why today we have thugs going free just because they’re supposedly promising rugby players.

  9. Kevin

     /  September 27, 2016

    You would think that given his disdain for rugby culture that Bradbury would have his teeth into this.

    • Gezza

       /  September 27, 2016

      He might still be trying to get his teeth out of the seat of Jordan Williams’ trousers❓😳

  10. Kitty Catkin

     /  September 27, 2016

    We have heard a sensationalised version of this from the press, what a surprise. One would have to know the whole story before making judgement on the case.

    The rich white buying justice (i.e. being able to avoid it) brigade will be spitting tacks over this one.

    Why do reporters still say that when x people are involved in something, y were women ? It’s as if the men don’t count, somehow, or their suffering was less.

  11. Joe Bloggs

     /  September 27, 2016

    And Pete, may I quote you in reply as well:

    Judges take many things into account when sentencing and they know much more than the average public pundit. I think this case would have been very carefully considered

    and a comment from you in reply to my comment regarding the inadequacy of sentencing:

    99% of Kiwis would not have seen anywhere near all the information available to the sentencing judge, nor will most of them have any idea about sentencing guidelines and precedents.

  12. jean

     /  September 27, 2016

    Pacific Islanders need to work with their young men to discourage violence. A lot of islander men believe their manhood is tied up with their ability to beat up other men( don’t know why they just don’t use penis size???), that’s why their young men start looking for fights when they are liquored up. Hopefully education will help islander men find other ways to compete with each other that doesn’t involve them beating up other people. It doesn’t help that white people ( esp. white woman) are so impressed by big brown men in sports and let them get away with crappie behaviour.

    • Gezza

       /  September 27, 2016

      Penis size is not a good guide to how you measure up beating other men, because, look at El Trumpeto’s tiny paws (and, you know, good indicator) and then how well he’s done❗️ 😏

      • Corky

         /  September 27, 2016

        It starts with upbringing. Many middle-class men wouldn’t be able to take this beat.

        • patupaiarehe

           /  September 27, 2016

          Looks pretty similar to the treatment allegedy meted out by the leading hand at a local packhouse, to her Tongan underlings. I say allegedly, as I didn’t witness it myself, but It was seen by someone I consider a reliable source. Interestingly enough, four of them also got thrown on the first plane home after being caught drinking beer. I guess it’s a ‘cultural thing’.

          • Corky

             /  September 27, 2016

            I know from personal experience some of these Island mumma’s are nasty individuals. Cold, calculating and horrible. Strange thing is other Island women are the polar opposite…beautiful people in all respects.

  13. Maggy Wassilieff

     /  September 27, 2016
    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  September 27, 2016

      It doesn’t sound as though he took the assault on the woman seriously enough. Certainly that age factor and lack of previous form would have been significant mitigating factors for sentencing but whether to the extent claimed I wouldn’t know.

  14. Joe Bloggs

     /  September 27, 2016

    Same judge, same lame excuse: “The consequences of a conviction would have been out of all proportion to the seriousness of the offence.”

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/10568971/Judge-sending-wrong-message

  15. duperez

     /  September 27, 2016

    Reaction on here has been quite sober compared to that in other places.

    The complexities of and relationships between justice, remorse, punishment, atonement, revenge, blame and other notions have not troubled many commentators.

    Stonings in some parts of the world are unquestioned and necessary there as the simplest line. The simplest line has been called for here and though the despised and disparaged stoning method of dealing to miscreants (or the innocent) has not yet been suggested as a way of dealing with the Wellington thug for his appalling actions, the thinking or lack of is the same.

    When they calm down will the most vehement in this terrible situation move on to campaign for a “paint by numbers” crime and punishment regime where judges have no discretion, no leniency and there are no pleas of mitigation? A system where judges are not allowed to use judgement?

  16. This is a clear case of a miscarriage of Justice and the Solicitor General should order a retrial and advise the Chief Justice to counsel the Judge concerned. My sympathy is with the victims. There is no law that permits a Judge to excuse a criminal because it may affect his future employment. I remain totally cynical of our judicial system which is now approaching third world standards.

  17. patupaiarehe

     /  September 27, 2016

    The more I read about this, the more it pisses me off.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11717458
    Why was he not ordered to pay compensation? And why is he not on a lifelong course of Disulfiram, if he behaves in this manner when he drinks. That would remove any risk of reoffending.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  September 27, 2016

      I think I read he paid $1K voluntarily to the victims.

      • patupaiarehe

         /  September 27, 2016

        That is isn’t compensation, it’s an insult

        • patupaiarehe

           /  September 27, 2016

          oh for an edit button…

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  September 27, 2016

          Yep, but as an 18-yr-old that was all he had. Did you look at Corky’s video? It makes you despair for that culture and those mutilated by it.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  September 27, 2016

            Oops – you did comment on the video. Ignore the question.