Another dump on Trump

Donald Trump has had something else dumped on him and his campaign, this time a recording of him speaking about, pretty much abusing, and assaulting women.

Washington Post: Trump recorded having extremely lewd conversation about women in 2005:

Donald Trump bragged in vulgar terms about kissing, groping and trying to have sex with women during a 2005 conversation caught on a hot microphone, saying that “when you’re a star, they let you do it,” according to a video obtained by The Washington Post.

The video captures Trump talking with Billy Bush, then of “Access Hollywood,”on a bus with the show’s name written across the side. They were arriving on the set of “Days of Our Lives” to tape a segment about Trump’s cameo on the soap opera.

In that audio, Trump discusses a failed attempt to seduce a woman, whose full name is not given in the video.

“I moved on her, and I failed. I’ll admit it,” Trump is heard saying. It was unclear when the events he was describing took place. The tape was recorded several months after he married his third wife, Melania.

“I did try and f— her. She was married,” Trump says.

Trump continues: “And I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said, ‘I’ll show you where they have some nice furniture.’”

“I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married,” Trump says. “Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look.”

At that point in the audio, Trump and Bush appear to notice Arianne Zucker, the actress who is waiting to escort them into the soap-opera set.

“Your girl’s hot as s—, in the purple,” says Bush, who’s now a co-host of NBC’s “Today” show.

“Whoa!” Trump says. “Whoa!”

 “I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her,” Trump says. “You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.”

“And when you’re a star, they let you do it,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”

“Grab them by the p—y,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”

This is from eleven years ago, but with the second debate with Hillary Clinton coming up in a couple of days this makes things tricky for Trump.

Criticism from Republicans is scathing enough.

Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, who has stood by Trump uncritically through numerous controversies, said in a statement: “No woman should ever be described in these terms or talked about in this manner. Ever.”

Former presidential candidate Mitt Romney, a Trump critic, said: “Hitting on married women? Condoning assault? Such vile degradations demean our wives and daughters and corrupt America’s face to the world.”

His bid for the presidency was always high risk. There’s no guarantee this is the end of revelations waiting to be dumped on Trump.

Trump has been criticized in this campaign for derogatory and lewd comments about women, including some made on TV and live radio. In an interview Wednesday with KSNV, a Las Vegas television station, Trump said that those comments were made for entertainment.

“A lot of that was done for the purpose of entertainment. There’s nobody that has more respect for women than I do,” he told the station.

It’s going to be difficult for him to sound convincing about that.

Politico: Ryan ‘sickened’ by Trump, joint appearance scrapped

The speaker announced the GOP nominee will no longer attend a campaign event with him Saturday, but doesn’t say whether he still backs Trump for president.

Paul Ryan said Friday night that he is “sickened” by Donald Trump’s lewd comments about women, and he announced that the GOP nominee would no longer campaign with him in Wisconsin on Saturday.

The speaker, however, did not comment on whether he still supports Trump for the presidency.

After hours of silence, Ryan’s office said, “I am sickened by what I heard today.”

“Women are to be championed and revered, not objectified,” Ryan said in a statement on Friday night. I” hope Mr. Trump treats this situation with the seriousness it deserves and works to demonstrate to the country that he has greater respect for women than this clip suggests. In the meantime, he is no longer attending tomorrow’s event in Wisconsin.”

This is the serious Trump seems to think it deserves:

“This was locker-room banter, a private conversation that took place many years ago. Bill Clinton has said far worse to me on the golf course — not even close. I apologize if anyone was offended.”

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  1. Kitty Catkin

     /  8th October 2016

    Locker room banter be damned, mother dear, this was dirty old man talk. People like that don’t change, I think. He is still using gross language about women, like ‘schlonged/fucked’. He talks about women as if we were lesser beings, some good enough for him to grope and fuck, some of a low standard that makes them inacceptable-seconds.

    He seems to think that all women have their price. There are few things that I covet, but I do covet a First Folio-although I know that I will never have one, so tough luck. But even if one was on the bedside table, ‘ex con’, I wouldn’t have sex with him to get it.

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    • Klik Bate

       /  8th October 2016

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  8th October 2016

      But some would, Kitty, which opens the market to those who want to deal in it. And some by nature of their fame and fortune have far more offers for their services than others.

      That is the reality which in polite company we pretend doesn’t exist.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  8th October 2016

        I can’t imagine wanting ANYTHING that badly. Not even a First Folio-and I would LOVE a First Folio. Really, really love one, in any condition. I’m not fussy.

        From a book of funny stories, c. 1917.

        ‘She says that her uncle gave her those furs.’
        ‘In that case, either the furs or the uncle are not real.’

        Ouch.

        Anyone who’s read as much Eng Lit (and other Lit) as I have is well aware that the oldest profession isn’t so-called for no reason.

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        • Klik Bate

           /  8th October 2016

          Wotcha’ got on tonight Kitty Catkin?

          If you’re having an evening in, here’s a complimentary pass to a movie (R18)

          Just curl up – and enjoy!

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  8th October 2016

          Sometimes amateurs are the best at that profession, Kitty.

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    • Gezza

       /  8th October 2016

      Just out of curiosity, and naturally speaking here only of a time when you are properly out of mourning, who would you have sex with to get it? 😳

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  8th October 2016

        Nobody, really-it would taint the First Folio to get it that way.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  8th October 2016

        Od DT (appropriate initials ?) doesn’t seem to realise that he’s saying that he couldn’t even PAY these women to do it with him.

        He’d be advised NOT to grab women by the genitals or kiss them, or he’ll find himself on a charge of sexual assault.

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        • Gezza

           /  8th October 2016

          Yup. Seems a smutbucket. Still, wealthy, so a few slags will still be happy to do the business I expect.

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    • Corky

       /  8th October 2016

      Don’t be too harsh, dear. Dirty old man talk is all old men have as the babes walk on… bye.

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      • David

         /  8th October 2016

        Unless your a dirty old man who is also a billionaire….

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  9th October 2016

          One would have to want the money very badly.

          He had been married for a few months to his current wife when he said all this. Poor girl.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  9th October 2016

            He is really rather pathetic. This is a man with grandchildren ! What on earth must THEY think ?

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  9th October 2016

              I can honestly say that much as I would love a First Folio (and I really would love one), I wouldn’t want to acquire it that way-assuming that anyone would make this offer, which is unlikely, considering the cost of these books.

            • Klik Bate

               /  9th October 2016

              By your own admission Kitty, given it very unlikely that you will ever acquire a ‘First-Folio’ – would you settle for a nice new Cap?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  9th October 2016

              I wonder if one could train a cat to shred the old fool’s face.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  9th October 2016

              If I’d won the first division of Lotto last night instead of $12, I could have had one….one was sold for 2,500, 000 pounds at Sothebys, less than I thought 🙂

              I do have a bound collected Household Words (edited by Dickens) which was the first one in which Cranford appeared. It’s the real thing, not a reprint, so one might say that it’s a 1st Ed of Cranford. Alas, it’s not counted as one, even though it was printed before the separate book was. But I don’t care, I like it for itself. To me it’s a first edition 😀 Just think, I have the magazine/s in which Cranford was first printed, For some reason, the printing is done in two columns-which is annoying to read-and the type is cramped. But these are bagatelles to the booklover.

              I have other 1sts, but the chances of a First Folio turning up at a bookfair are all but non-existent.

  2. MaureenW

     /  8th October 2016

    Not shocked!!! A private conversation (maybe not so private) from 11 years ago – so what? The desperation from the pro-Hillary side is laughable. Like I’ve mentioned before, I think they’re both appalling candidates, but I’d rather him that her.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  8th October 2016

      If I were American, I’d prefer not to have a president who talks like that about women. It’s not shocking-I have read far worse-but it’s rather revolting . This was a middle-aged man speaking, not some dirty-minded teenager. It’s unbecoming, to say the least. And he was married at the time.

      You do realise that when he talked about Hillary Clinton being ‘schlonged’, he was using a Yiddish obscenity-it’s as crude as saying fucked. It’s impossible to imagine any would-be politician here, in the UK or anywhere else saying that the opposition candidate had been fucked on her way to the stage-which is what he said. I would imagine that most of the women in the hall would walk out if a man said this. You, of course, may well find it acceptable to use such obscenities in this context or have a candidate boating about the size of his genitalia as DT famously did. That cost someone in Hamilton his chance of being mayor.

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      • Klik Bate

         /  8th October 2016

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  8th October 2016

          Poor old Donald, still talking like that when he was a year off 60-and a grandfather, for all I know. He obviously has no idea of how ridiculous he makes himself look. He’s a dirty old man, and there are few things sillier-looking than some old fool who still thinks that he’s a young stud when he’s a geriatric and a laughing stock. His children and grandchildren must be dying of embarrassment at this sort of thing-one can only pity them as the dirty old fool uses language that he may think makes him look like a super-stud but actually makes him look like an idiot.

          He couldn’t even make these women interested in him by offering them payment.

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          • MaureenW

             /  8th October 2016

            I think you’re wrong there KC, his wives have not been bad lookers. Have a look at Rupert Murdoch, these guys don’t go to sleep in the sex department.

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            • Gezza

               /  8th October 2016

              Too right Maureen. Slags don’t have to be ugly, or stupid. A lot of them are bloody cunning.

      • MaureenW

         /  8th October 2016

        I think you have a bad memory for American Presidents.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  9th October 2016

          I didn’t say that his wives have not been good-looking. Don’t put words in my mouth.Nor did I say that slags and whores are ugly and stupid. Again, don’t try to put words in my mouth, especially when what I actually said is there on the page. It might work when people are talking, it doesn’t when their actual words are there and prove that you are trying this.

          You do realise that he was newly married to wife #3 when he said that he was trying to fuck another woman ?

          He claims that nobody has more respect for women than he has. He has a damned odd way of showing it. I’d hate to hear his idea of disrespect.

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  3. So, when do we get to see and hear H Clintons screamers from 2005/6 when she didn’t have her Presidential Husband under tight reins? The hypocrisy of the US MSM knows no bounds! Why our MSM continue to slag the Trump camp in the way they are, what help has that to the NZ/US relationship on which we depend for our defence? Or is there a movement towards Russia as our protector? We are incapable of doing it on our own, now the UK has abandoned us. Should we ask China to help our defence capability instead? We only have our freedom to lose.

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    • Gezza

       /  8th October 2016

      What on earth has showing what a scungebucket Trump is got to do with assuming that means we must therefore want to switch our military, political, economic, security & intelligence alignments from the US to China?

      It just means we can see what he’s like.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  9th October 2016

        It’s no reflection on Hillary Clinton now that decades ago her husband had a few wham, bam, thank you, ma’ams, any more that it’s a reflection on whichever Mrs Trump is the current one that her husband does this-and even talks about his daughter as if she was up for grabs.

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    • Klik Bate

       /  9th October 2016

      Paula brings her own perspective…..

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      • Gezza

         /  9th October 2016

        Because, whatever his philandering ways, Bill didn’t constantly advertise himself as an intellectually lazy narcissistic moron.

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        • Gezza

           /  9th October 2016

          And somehow I doubt that’s the real Paula Jones.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  9th October 2016

            His wee wee ???

            Is this an adult speaking ? If you mean his penis, say so.

            Hypercritical ?

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  4. lurcher1948

     /  8th October 2016

    Come on guys donald has a few faults hes probably having sex with his daughter at this moment but some old men really do love their daughters and really love them to stay young, donald that is (ps incest makes you go orange) and thank god this freak doesn’t live in our country

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  5. lurcher1948

     /  8th October 2016

    PS he’s hinted at lusting after his daughter enough

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  8th October 2016

      He said she was hot, Lurch. I suspect that simply showed sound judgement.

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    • patupaiarehe

       /  8th October 2016

      Just for you Lurch 😀

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  9th October 2016

        He said more than that, Alan-and we all know, as women, that it’s the way it’s said and done. A friend of my late husband has always put his arm around me, but I’d have to be an idiot to think that he means anything but friendship by it. But some men can make anything seem disgusting, even a look-it’s all in the way that they do it. In DT’s case, it was not just what he said, which was borderline, it was the way that he said it, He was talking about her as if she was an object. Nothing about what a great person she was, unless I have forgotten this, just what a great body etc etc, as if that’s the only thing that matters in a woman.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  9th October 2016

          Well it’s obviously not the only thing that matters to him since she has a senior management position in his business and campaign.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  9th October 2016

            The two are not mutually exclusive.

            Look at the photo-his hands are measuring her hips and bum, his eyes are appraising the rest of her.

            Do most men put their hands on their daughters’ hips and bums ? I hope not.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  9th October 2016

              Watch the video it was clipped from, Kitty. Ivanka introduces him, he enters, they kiss and then he steps away giving her this farewell touch as he does. He is not looking at her, he is preparing to address the audience. This is a b.s. bit of slander from his media enemies.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  9th October 2016

              Why is he touching her bum, then ? He certainly appears to be looking where he shouldn’t be looking at a daughter.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  9th October 2016

              Didn’t you even watch the video then? He isn’t touching her bum, he’s touching her hips. His eyes are closed. Go watch the video and get back to us.

            • MaureenW

               /  9th October 2016

              This thread is astounding – all the wowsers … sniff .. Trump said “pussy”. I wouldn’t mind so much if the commentary was balanced. What Clinton does and has done outweighs Trump’s stupid utterings in terms of lack of suitability for POTUS. A greedy, corrupt, granny .. pussy-muncher as well (apparently). Go figure.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  9th October 2016

              Saying that someone is (apparently) something doesn’t make it true, all right or not libellous. If you mean that she’s a lesbian, then say it outright-and quote reliable sources. If you’re just trying to be offensive, there’s no need to qualify that, it’s obvious.

              If you’re not American, it sounds very silly to use Americanisms whose meanings you probably don’t know..

              Figure what ? Do you know yourself ? I thought not.

              Wakey, wakey, deary, he talked about grabbing women by the genitals, kissing them (he didn’t wait), trying to fuck a married woman and said that all this was all right because he was a star (how modest) and therefore he could. The fool didn’t seem to notice that the married woman wasn’t interested even when he tried to buy sex with her. The man had been married for a few months when all this was going on.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  9th October 2016

              Have you watched the video yet, Kitty? Do you admit there was absolutely nothing objectionable about it?

          • MaureenW

             /  9th October 2016

            I say apparently because I don’t have first hand knowledge. But, the woman Bill Clinton had a 12 year affair with, a Gennifer Flowers, is quite clear on her recollection that’s what Bill told her – he should know I guess.

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        • Gezza

           /  9th October 2016

          Give it up Al. He’s a lecherous toad as well as a bullshit artist.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  9th October 2016

            Just stating the obvious counter truths, Gezza. Just because you don’t like him doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

            Lecherous toads have a long and honourable history in politics and leadership.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  9th October 2016

              Trump is on record in another broadcast as saying-after the Princess of Wales died-that he would have liked to have sex with her, because she had the skin, the legs, the looks…..this shows his lack of touch with reality. Also his lack of respect. Him and Lady Diana Spencer, Princess of Wales ? Dream on if you think that you’d have been let to go anywhere near her, mate. Not For Sale.

              He seems to think that saying that he’d like to have sex with a woman is the greatest compliment that he can pay her, and that saying that he wouldn’t is the most withering insult.

              All the photos that I have seen of him and Ivanka are disturbing.

            • Gezza

               /  9th October 2016

              Yep. Still, shame about how we all get to hear about it instantly & people railing on about it from any angle are making the media happier than ever. Free market Alan. Free speech. Morals police all over the place venting about how nobody’s got any morals, but all quoting from different morals codes. Great!

            • Klik Bate

               /  9th October 2016

              Yes but they’re all odd bastards Kitty – I remember when the Prince of Whales was recorded telling Camilla that “he’d like to come back as her Tampax” :/

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  9th October 2016

              I’ve said before I tend to discount words and opinions and look at deeds and who hurts who by doing them. I find that a more reliable way to make moral judgements.

              So what has Trump done vs what has Hillary done?

            • Gezza

               /  9th October 2016

              Well, in this instance, he’s the lecherous toad himself, whereas Hillary’s not as far as I know been bonking & rating & disrespecting men in quite the same way or to the same degree. She’s just married to one. Like Melania is.

              Hey it’s none of my business it’s just that everywhere I look people are whinging about him, or her, so it’s difficult to get away from it. You must know what I mean. How lomg have you been banging on about it for so far, like me?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  9th October 2016

              So my first question is who has Trump bonked or groped or both that led to complaints and from whom?

              Do these compare with Clinton lying about her private server and having sensitive Government emails hacked off it? Or using her Government position to solicit money for her Trust? Or whatever else her record shows she has done?

            • Gezza

               /  9th October 2016

              Well I don’t know & I can’t be bothered researching it. There are reports from the staff on the apprenticeship show he was a yuckbucket in this respect. And as he hasn’t been involved in politics or government yet he hasn’t had time yet to build up a track record of dubious doings & associations & denials & investgations, but given time in the role he’s after I reckon he’ll be up for it. Some of his business interests & dealings are pretty ropey & patchy, and that, from memory, is just from what’s on his wikipedia page. Gotta go Al. Keep fighting his corner. Catch ya later.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  9th October 2016

              A yuckbucket ? 😀

              The conversation between the Prince of Wales and his now wife was a private one that was hacked-and whatever one might think of it, there is a difference between something that people say in private and something said in public for the whole world to hear. Hacking and repeating a private conversation (unless it affects national security) is eavesdropping. This was like the pervs who recorded the Aaron Smith thing.

              The PoW wasn’t making crude remarks about groping and fucking women because he’s a ‘star’. I thought that it should be other people saying that, one doesn’t refer to oneself as a star, surely.

            • Joe Bloggs

               /  9th October 2016

              lecherous toads have a long and honourable history in politics

              WTF Alan… you’re defending the indefensible – he’s crossed the line from being a boorish man to reveal himself as an outright sexual predator.

              One moment he was bragging privately about sexually assaulting women, by forcibly kissing them and grabbing their genitals. Seconds later he was off his bus and behaving like a perfect gentleman – what a fraud.

              What we heard in that “locker-room” conversation on the bus was the real Donald Trump, in a moment of real candour, no politics, no media spin, no ambiguity. Just sexually harassing and groping women…. because he can.

              Trump has no honourable place in politics

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  9th October 2016

              @Joe, if you think this kind of talk is rare amongst politicians you don’t know much history, past or current. And in the case of many, not just talk but action.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  9th October 2016

              And Joe, I repeat: who has Trump bonked or groped or both that led to complaints and from whom?

              Actions speak much louder than words. So let’s hear about them.

            • Joe Bloggs

               /  9th October 2016

              @Alan, it matters a great deal that this kind of talk is common amongst politicians and footy players alike … which is why good people speak out against misogyny every time it happens.

              You want to defend a misogynist and a sexual predator, then knock yourself out – but don’t expect me to be silent while you do so…

              and if you think words don’t count then I suggest you tell it to the growing list of Republican representatives who have voiced their disgust at Trump’s behaviour. I’ve added a few names further down the page so you know who to contact.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  9th October 2016

              No, words don’t count for much, Joe. Actions much more.

              Yes, of course all the politicians will run a mile from these words because they are in the business of selling fantasies to voters. Of course most of them will have worse skeletons safely in their cupboards.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  9th October 2016

              So no actions to cite, Joe? Surely with the entire Lefty media and Hollywood empires to search for them, they can come up with something Trump has done sometime to justify your words, or even one of them?

            • Joe Bloggs

               /  9th October 2016

              @Alan I don’t understand your continued defence of Trump when even his own party is walking away from him…

              So tell us why you defend the misogynistic and predatory sexual behaviours that Trump has expressed?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  9th October 2016

              I do understand that you refuse to face facts, Joe, and why.

              When the facts refute accusations I defend the facts. What his party does or doesn’t do is irrelevant to whether the facts are accurate and known.

              I don’t defend Trump’s words. I do say there is no evidence of any predatory sexual behaviours by him. If you have it, produce it.

          • Pete Kane

             /  9th October 2016

            The ‘H’ of the MSM has been truly nauseating these last 2 days. Mind you, if these latest Hillary leaks really are just the tip of the iceberg, then its understandable. They (Hillary and the MSM) really could loose this thing.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  9th October 2016

            The lesbian rumour has been around (needless to say with no evidence) for decades. If she was going around using obscenities about it and making crude remarks about grabbing other women’s genitals and fucking them, instead of simply saying that it wasn’t true and not dignifying it with anything more than a simple statement, one might wonder what sort of person she was.

            Maureen doesn’t seem to know what a wowser is.

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  6. patupaiarehe

     /  9th October 2016

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  9th October 2016

      That’s really icky, Patu-the photo, I mean-look at the body language. This is not father/daughter body language, it’s more like sugar daddy and sugar daddy’s baby. Keep your hands away from there, you creep.

      He’s not acting like a proud father, he’s acting like an owner. I wonder how many people would say ‘father and daughter’ if they didn’t know who these people were.

      I must say that I wish that I looked 1/4 as good as that in jeans….sigh…..

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  9th October 2016

        I read his body language as a bit uncomfortable about the embrace and photo. Certainly not as ownership. If anything she is laying claim to him rather than the reverse IMO. But that doesn’t fit the misanthropy narrative does it?

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  9th October 2016

          Misogyny. I see it as daddy smirking at his possession, with her doing what she’s been told to do. Her body language is quite defensive and uncomfortable.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  9th October 2016

            Well, we read both our own sexes as uncomfortable and posed, Kitty. without knowing the context, I think that’s where it lies.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  9th October 2016

            I eventually found the source for that photo – which Trump’s enemies have been sharing, leering and sneering at all year – and, guess what, it was posted by Ivanka herself as a memory of a happy childhood taken when she was a teenager. As such it was reported before Trump became a political threat as:

            Wearing blue pants, a red shirt and black heels, Ms Trump – whose actual age in the image is unknown – kisses her dad’s cheek adoringly as he smiles at the camera. The sweet father-daughter photo has had 11,000 ‘likes’ since it was posted yesterday.”

            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2523240/Paris-Hilton-Ivanka-Trump-post-rare-snaps-idyllic-childhoods.html

            Strange how sweet becomes creepy when you become a politician.

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    • Gezza

       /  9th October 2016

      I reckon he’s just bought her that car.

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  7. Joe Bloggs

     /  9th October 2016

    You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything

    And so goes life – powerful men sorting women’s bodies into property and trash, and wannabe-powerful men going along with it. Snickering. Kissing an arse. Joining in with their own trash-talk. Never speaking up, because the cost of being kicked out of the good-ole-boys club is too high for their limp-dick egos…

    Yup, Don’s the boss who thinks you owe him something; the date who thinks that silence means “yes” and “no” means “try harder”; the stranger who thinks the way you dress is an invitation to touch, take, own, and destroy.

    He’s every narcissistic loser, every man who’s ever tried to leverage power, money, fame, credibility or physical strength to violate women’s boundaries. The man who raped you and told you it was your fault..

    When he talks about grabbing women by their genitals, he is talking about sexually assaulting anyone he feels like, whenever he wants…. ‘cos he can do anything…

    I wouldn’t want him at my dinner table, let alone in the Oval Office.

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    • Gezza

       /  9th October 2016

      Damn straight. He belongs in the offal office.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  9th October 2016

        It’s incredible that he talks like this….and then claims to respect women. He doesn’t respect women, he leers at those he deigns to find acceptable and sneers at the unlucky ones who don’t meet his standards.He can’t understand lesbians who prefer each other to the superstud Trump.

        Not all women deserve respect. It has to be earned

        But we deserve not to have dirty old men grabbing our ‘pussies’ and seening this as a compliment to us-who needs to waste money on flowers and chocolates ?- and a form of foreplay. He sounded as if he thought that he was paying the Princess of Wales the world’s greatest compliment instead of a gross insult. Pass the bucket.

        I wonder what he’d do if someone laughed their head off at him and called him a dirty old man with whom they wouldn’t have sex if he was the last man on earth and the future of the human race depended upon it.

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        • Gezza

           /  9th October 2016

          I have the impression Hillary more or less did.

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          • Gezza

             /  9th October 2016

            Which of course is Hillarious (pardon the pun) given … you know …?

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  9th October 2016

          Probably look for someone else, Kitty?

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  9th October 2016

            You say that as though you think it is an unusual experience for a man?

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  9th October 2016

              No, I didn’t say that. I said that I wondered about it in this case.

              I would guess, though, that putting a hand between a woman’s legs, uninvited, having a grope and then expecting sex in return for this compliment could well be a non-starter.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  9th October 2016

              Probably. I guess some people are just happy to play the percentage game – and a lot more talk a lot more than they play.

            • Klik Bate

               /  9th October 2016

              WOW! It’s sounding like you’ve really hit your straps this past few days Kitty. – Good on you girl!!

              Can we take it the ‘period of mourning’ is finally at an end?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  9th October 2016

              No. It has been less than a year since my husband died of cancer, it takes a long time to recover from having that happen. One not only has their death to cope with, one has all the horror of seeing someone die of this vile disease.

  8. Gezza

     /  9th October 2016

    Well, anyway, while the argument about their respective many virtues or lack of them rages on, that scottish-sounding Aljaz reporter was saying with all the hoohah about Trump’s attitudes to women beating out ‘the nothing to see here’ reaction to the Wikileaks stuff about Hillary, it’s a possibility Trump might just suddenly pull out of the debate claiming the media will make him look bad. Or not, depending where his head’s at at any given time.

    That apology was the first ‘straight off the autocue don’t ad lib at all Donald’ performance I think I’ve seen from him.

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  9. Joe Bloggs

     /  9th October 2016

    Republican representatives dump on Trump:

    Sen. Kelly Ayotte (New Hampshire): “I’m a mom and an American first, and I cannot and will not support a candidate for president who brags about degrading and assaulting women. I will not be voting for Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton and instead will be writing in Governor Pence for president on Election Day.”

    Rep. Jason Chaffetz (Utah): “I can no longer in good conscience endorse this person for president. It is some of the most abhorrent and offensive comments that you can possibly imagine.”

    Gov. Gary Herbert (Utah): “Donald Trump’s statements are beyond offensive & despicable. While I cannot vote for Hillary Clinton, I will not vote for Trump.”

    Rep. Cresent Hardy (Nevada): “I will no longer support the guy at the head of the ticket.”

    Gov. Brian Sandoval (Nevada): “This video exposed not just words, but now an established pattern which I find to be repulsive and unacceptable for a candidate for president of the United States. I cannot support him as my party’s nominee.”

    Gov. Robert Bentley (Alabama): “I certainly won’t vote for Hillary Clinton, but I cannot and will not vote for Donald Trump.”

    Rep. Tom Rooney (Florida): “If I support him for president, I will be telling my boys that I think it’s okay to treat women like objects—and I’ll have failed as a dad. Therefore, I can no longer support Donald Trump for president and will not be voting for him or Hillary Clinton.”

    Sen. John McCain (Arizona): “Donald Trump’s behavior this week, concluding with the disclosure of his demeaning comments about women and his boasts about sexual assaults, make it impossible to continue to offer even conditional support for his candidacy.”

    Rep. Frank LoBiondo (New Jersey): “I have repeatedly and strongly spoken out against Mr. Trump when he degrades and insults women, minority groups and Gold Star military families. I will not vote for a candidate who boasts of sexual assault. It is my conclusion that Mr. Trump is unfit to be president … I will write in Governor Mike Pence for President.”

    Rep. Erik Paulsen (Minnesota): “For months I have said Donald Trump has not earned my vote. The disgusting statements reveled last night make it clear he cannot. I will not be voting for him.”

    Sen. Rob Portman (Ohio): “While I continue to respect those who still support Donald Trump, I can no longer support him. I will continue to believe our country cannot afford a Hillary Clinton presidency. I will be voting for Mike Pence for President.”

    Sen. Mike Crapo (Idaho): “I have reached the decision that I can no longer endorse Donald Trump. This is not a decision that I have reached lightly, but his pattern of behavior has left me no choice. … Make no mistake—we need conservative leadership in the White House. I urge Donald Trump to step aside and allow the Republican party to put forward a conservative candidate like Mike Pence who can defeat Hillary Clinton.”

    Rep. Martha Roby (Alabama): “Donald Trump’s behavior makes him unacceptable as a candidate for president, and I won’t vote for him. … Now, it is abundantly clear that the best thing for our country and our party is for Trump to step aside and allow a responsible, respectable Republican to lead the ticket.”

    Rep. Chris Stewart (Utah): “I’m incredibly disappointed in our party’s candidate. And unlike the Democrats who have proven completely unwilling to hold secretary Clinton accountable for her illegal activities that endangered our national security, I am willing to hold Mr. Trump accountable. I am therefore calling for him to step aside and to allow Mike Pence to lead our party.”

    Rep. Joe Heck (Nevada): “I can no longer look past this pattern of behavior and inappropriate comments from Donald Trump. Therefore, I cannot, in good conscience, continue to support him nor can I vote for Hillary Clinton. … I believe our only option is to formally ask Mr. Trump to step down and allow Republicans the opportunity to elect someone who will provide us with the strong leadership so desperately needed and one that Americans deserve.”

    Gov. Dennis Daugaard (South Dakota): “Enough is enough. Donald Trump should withdraw in favor of Governor Mike Pence. This election is too important.”

    Sen. John Thune (South Dakota): “Donald Trump should withdraw and Mike Pence should be our nominee effective immediately.”

    Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (West Virginia): “I am deeply offended by Mr. Trump’s remarks … The appropriate next step may be for him to reexamine his candidacy.”

    Rep. Rodney Davis (Illinois): “The abhorrent comments made by Donald Trump are inexcusable … I am rescinding my support for Donald Trump and asking to have my name removed from his agriculture advisory committee. With the terrible options America has right now, I cannot cast my vote for any of the candidates, so I hope Donald Trump withdraws from the race so the American people can elect Mike Pence as our next president.”

    Rep. Ann Wagner (Missouri): “I have committed my short time in Congress to fighting for the most vulnerable in our society. As a strong and vocal advocate for victims of sex trafficking and assault, I must be true to those survivors and myself and condemn the predatory and reprehensible comments of Donald Trump. I withdraw my endorsement and call for Governor Pence to take the lead so we can defeat Hillary Clinton.”

    Rep. Bradley Byrne (Alabama): “Donald Trump’s comments regarding women were disgraceful and appalling … It is now clear Donald Trump is not fit to be president of the United States and cannot defeat Hillary Clinton. I believe he should step aside and allow Governor Pence to lead the Republican ticket.”

    Rep. Scott Garrett (New Jersey): “Donald Trump’s comments are inexcusable … I believe that Mike Pence would be the best nominee for the Republican Party to defeat Hillary Clinton.”

    Rep. Cory Gardner (Colorado): “If Donald Trump wishes to defeat Hillary Clinton, he should do the only thing that will allow us to do so—step aside.”

    Sen. Dan Sullivan (Alaska): “I’m calling on Trump to step aside for Gov. Pence. Trump can’t lead on critical issue of ending dom violence & sexual assault.”

    Sen. Deb Fischer (Nebraska): “The comments made by Mr. Trump were disgusting and totally unacceptable under any circumstance. It would be wise for him to step aside and allow Mike Pence to serve as our party’s nominee.”

    Rep. Jeff Fortenberry (Nebraska): “As Americans we are faced with two strikingly bad choices: Donald Trump, who has abused women, and Hillary Clinton who has enabled the abuse of women. It’s all wrong. For my part, I ask that Donald Trump step aside and allow Mike Pence to become the Republican nominee.”

    RNC Chairman Reince Priebus: “No woman should ever be described in these terms or talked about in this manner. Ever.”

    House Speaker Paul Ryan (Wisconsin): “I am sickened by what I heard today. Women are to be championed and revered, not objectified. I hope Mr. Trump treats this situation with the seriousness it deserves and works to demonstrate to the country that he has greater respect for women than this clip suggests.”

    Majority Leader Mitch McConnell: “These comments are repugnant, and unacceptable in any circumstance. As the father of three daughters, I strongly believe that Trump needs to apologize directly to women and girls everywhere, and take full responsibility for the utter lack of respect for women shown in his comments on that tape.”

    Gov. Pat McCrory (North Carolina): “I condemn in the strongest possible terms the comments made by Donald Trump regarding women. I find them disgusting.”

    Sen. Bob Corker (Tennessee): “These comments are obviously very inappropriate and offensive and his apology was absolutely necessary.”

    Sen. Marco Rubio (Florida): “Donald’s comments were vulgar, egregious & impossible to justify. No one should ever talk about any woman in those terms, even in private.”

    Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas): “These comments are disturbing and inappropriate, there is simply no excuse for them.”

    Sen. Joni Ernst (Iowa): “The comments DJT made are lewd & insulting. There is no excuse, and no room for such reprehensible and objectifying talk about anyone, ever.”

    Sen. Roy Blunt (Missouri): “Donald Trump’s statements were disrespectful and inappropriate, and he was right to apologize.”

    Sen. Orrin Hatch (Utah): “Mr. Trump’s comments were offensive and disgusting. There is no excuse for such degrading behavior. All women deserve to be treated with respect.”

    Gov. Mike Pence (Indiana): “As a husband and father, I was offended by the words and actions described by Donald Trump in the eleven-year-old video released yesterday. I do not condone his remarks and cannot defend them.”

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  10. Joe Bloggs

     /  9th October 2016

    #orangecosby

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    • MaureenW

       /  9th October 2016

      Where has Trump accused of sexual assault? Is this what you’re referring to? Writing something stupid with a hashtag doesn’t make it so.
      #joetheripper

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      • Joe Bloggs

         /  9th October 2016

        He claims to be a serial pussy-groper, whether women want it or not
        His ex-wife Ivana accused him of rape
        Jill Harth accused him of sexual misbehaviour
        Katy Johnson filed a federal lawsuit against him this April, accusing him of sexual assault and battery in 1994 when she was thirteen years old
        Temple Taggart accused him of unwanted sexual advances
        He cyberstalked journalist Megyn Kelly

        and of course even you know his history of calling women pigs, slobs, dogs, disgusting animals, bimbos … face it, the guy’s full-fat misogynist …

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  9th October 2016

          Ok, that is now a substantive justified accusation, Joe. The cumulative effect of them is terminal for Trump’s reputation and campaign IMO.

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  11. The word on Aljaz is that Mike Pence has gone awol for the moment and is reported to be considering whether he still wants to be Trump’s running mate.
    0023am

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    • Pete Kane

       /  10th October 2016

      Turning Out For Trump – Donald Mobbed By Supporters At Trump Tower – Trump Here To Stay –
      These guys are expressing a common view – all be it an overall minority.

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      • Gezza

         /  10th October 2016

        Yup. Very common. Peasants really, mostly. Intellectually speaking. Pence should take over now I reckon.
        Who are you backing Pete? 😖

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        • Pete Kane

           /  10th October 2016

          Bernie!

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          • Gezza

             /  10th October 2016

            Basically I think the best thing that could happen now id for Jesus to suddenly appear, tell everyone ‘it’s not happening folks, ordinarily I keep out of this sort of thing, but these two have got to and you’ll just have to start all over again’ and then whisk both Trump & Hillary off to somewhere nice but that they can necer come back from.

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            • Gezza

               /  10th October 2016

              Sorry about the typos its the browser this thread’s too long because of Al.

            • MaureenW

               /  10th October 2016

              Amen to that. I bet many Americans wish they’d both pack up their dirty baggage and f@@@ off.

  12. Pete Kane

     /  10th October 2016

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    • Gezza

       /  10th October 2016

      I see the debate’s all on at 2pm this arvo. Aljaz will be broadcasting it live. Should be a ripper, this one. Bigger audience than last time I expect. Any decent boss should close the shop, bring a telly in for the workers, and join them for some beers.

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