Euthanasia checkpoint conspiracy theories

Martyn Bradbury has made claims about the checkpoints used to gather information from euthanasia campaigners that look absurd to me. He seems to have dreamt them up as doesn’t substantiated them at all.

The Daily Blog: So why are the NZ Police taking a sudden interest in Euthanasia campaigners?

Let me be clear.

I am anti-euthanasia. I passionately believe that if this passes, Government’s and State Agencies will not be able to help themselves in promoting Euthanasia to lesson health costs. That’s what Jenny Shipley was secretly trying to do in the 1990s and I sure as hell believe National would use it like that now.

I presume he means lessen. The rest sounds like maniacal scaremongering.

That said, what the NZ Police are doing to Euthanasia campaigners is not only outrageous, but the real reasons behind this weird abuse of power is actually a lot darker.

Falsifying a checkpoint to catch and tag members of any political group or organisation and then turn up on their doorsteps to intimidate them is extreme and barely within the law.

I agree that the abuse of the checkpoint was outrageous, and may have in fact been outside the law.

Which is what the NZ Police are testing out. The incredible search and surveillance powers bestowed upon them retrospectively by John Key for illegally spying on activists added new abilities to actively deceive and effectively entrap activists. This pro-active Policing is clearly something the NZ Police wish to test out.

This is a bloody training exercise.

The Police have selected a low grade activist group with little political clout to test out how far they can actually go with their new powers.

The checkpoint had nothing to do with new spying or search and surveillance powers.

The Police have been trying these tactics out for some time. The Urewera Raids not only used illegal spying techniques (now legal), but they engaged in GCSB  level spying equipment and agent provocateurs. They tried it on with the failed Red Devil undercover plant and more recently used ‘Mr Big’ entrapment scams.

Targeting Euthanasia campaigners is a training exercise as our Police State starts flexing its new found muscles.

Linking the Urewera raids and GCSB spying to the euthanasia checkpoint seems a rather ridiculous leap.

Remember if the new GCSB and SIS powers go through, they can deputise any agency to share their legal immunity if committing crimes. 

Good grief. I haven’t seen anyone one else talking about legal immunity over this. The Police referred themselves to the Independent Police Complaints Authority over the checkpoint.

Bradbury seems to have ended up stranded on the political outer – the maniacal left out.

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  1. Corky

     /  28th October 2016

    Crikey, I’m going into bat for Bomber Cadbury on this issue. While he can’t back up any of his claims, the past track record of governments and their offical arms show his concerns are well within the ball park.

    Example A: Our National ID Cards- you know them as driver licenses and the 18 plus card.

    At the time Jenny Shipley told us this was just a straight photo drivers license..AND WOULD NOT BE USED FOR IDENTIFICATION , NOR WOULD IT BE DIGITISED. In private she was gushing about wonderful opportunities this card provide for tracking citizens and stream lining government interfaces. It would also train the public to accept identification checks and procedures. It worked….few think twice when asked for photo id. Try and apply for something without photo id. Its near impossible. Tell a bureaucrat we don’t legally have photo id legislation( that may have changed) and see how far you get. I helped fund a chap who took this to court. He lost.

    Second phase of this roll out is now underway. Its called Real Me ID. In future all citizens will need this account. Give it ten years.

    https://www.privacy.org.nz/news-and-publications/reports-to-parliament-and-government/land-transport-bill-photo-id-driver-licences/

    http://www.celticnz.org/images/Transport/court.htm

    Its a simple matter of time and slowly leading the sheep into the pen. Baa Baa.

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    • Tau toko that Corky …. and it ain’t “socialism” doing it either …

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  28th October 2016

      Real Me is more trouble than it’s worth. It asks for a one-off pasword and then says that it’s wrong. How can it be ? That makes no sense. One is then told to go to a Post Shop with etc etc….upon which the user says some very rude words and leaves it.

      If it was going to be the sort of thing that conspiracy theorists imagine, they’d make it easier and less of something that people are going to abandon at some point.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  28th October 2016

        I did it by mistake for something else. The thing that I thought it was could be used with it, so I carried on, but what a hoohah. We are in no danger if it’s as badly done as this was. One goes around in circles, is told that one is now registered when one isn’t….

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        • Corky

           /  28th October 2016

          I doubt anyone can help you, Kitty. Stick to knitting. There’s no conspiracy theory around that to my knowledge.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  28th October 2016

            I have no idea what you’re talking about; I don’t knit, and I am not a conspiracy theorist. You seem to have completely missed my point.I don’t believe that Real Me will be compulsory, but if it ever becomes so, some serious revision will be needed. The absurdity of telling people to think of a one-off password and then telling them that it’s wrong is unbelievable.

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            • Corky

               /  28th October 2016

              Its called teething problems. I know all about it because I had the same problem helping someone set up an account.

              I refer you to my spiel on drivers licenses, and the penultimate( what a worthless word) paragraph in my original comments above:

              “Second phase of this roll out is now underway. Its called Real Me ID. In future all citizens will need this account. Give it ten years.”

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  28th October 2016

              There are few things more annoying than this sort of time-wasting & going around in circles; I remember what a damned nuisance it was when Microsoft did this to people over the locked-down hotmail accounts. One of their worst ones was sending people codes to a mobile phone (one soon learned not to bother with this, as they were never sent to the phone) or to someone else’s email. The codes were always one number short.

              Penultimate is a perfectly good word-second to last. Why is it worthless ?

              Many people are finding the domimance of Facebook irritating, I know.

  2. NZ is a low-tier member of the Anglo-American Empire, so the security model used by the NZ state must at best be consistent with that of the dominant country and at worst converge with it. When there’s no trust to support the voluntary disclosure of information, an empire will do whatever it deems necessary to acquire that information secretly.

    “The U.S. has already become a police state” ~ William Binney, NSA Senior Technical Director.

    “It is with my oath as a US intelligence officer weighing heavy on my mind that I wish to report to congress acts that I believe are unlawful and unconstitutional.” ~ Russell Tice, NSA Officer.

    “I found the pre- and post-9/11 intelligence from NSA monitoring of some of the hijackers as they planned the attacks of 9/11 had not been shared outside NSA.” ~ Thomas Drake, NSA contractor.

    According to Nicky Hager, the GCSB programmed the NSA’s XKeyscore system to intercept messages about senior public servants and a leading anti-corruption campaigner in the Solomon Islands.

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    • Hey Ugly, do you really believe Hager is telling the truth or is he speculating, as usual.

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      • The secret document, dated from January 2013, shows some of the names and other search terms that the Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) entered into the internet spying system XKeyscore (scroll to end of article to read the document).

        http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11417386

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        • The reputed document fails in a number of ways that I can’t go into. I have never seen such a document format ever in all my time with the system. Nice try, failed.

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          • Do you believe that you have knowledge of all document formats used by the system? A recurring theme within the security apparatus is “need to know basis” (eg GWH Bush to Jimmy Carter re UFO/ET presence).

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  28th October 2016

            That is an internal system file generated from a screen input form. It would normally never be seen by a user of the system. The GUI = Graphical User Interface is what the user would see on a screen and interact with to maintain the information – most likely in a database – from where it is then extracted to create files like this which are used to control searches of the massive data repository.

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            • That’s correct, the document itself looks like computer source code to be used as input for automated processing and distribution.

            • Alan, unfortunately, unlike HRC, I do remember my briefing that she would have had to have for Five Eyes Sensitive Compartmented Information access. Consequently, I can proffer no further comment other than to say it does not satisfy me as being authentic. I am not being coy, I am really constrained still. Good explanation though.

            • How does your briefing qualify you to evaluate the authenticity of a document which was designed to be machine readable?

    • From a relevant link at intellihub.com posted by Corky on the Ross Sea Sanctuary thread …

      https://www.intellihub.com/the-path-to-total-dictatorship-americas-shadow-government-and-its-silent-coup/

      “The Deep State, which “operates according to its own compass heading regardless of who is formally in power,” makes a mockery of elections and the entire concept of a representative government.

      So who or what is the Deep State?

      It’s the militarized police, which have joined forces with state and federal law enforcement agencies in order to establish themselves as a standing army. It’s the fusion centers and spy agencies that have created a surveillance state and turned all of us into suspects. It’s the courthouses and prisons that have allowed corporate profits to take precedence over due process and justice.

      It’s the military empire with its private contractors and defense industry that is bankrupting the nation. It’s the private sector with its 854,000 contract personnel with top-secret clearances, “a number greater than that of top-secret-cleared civilian employees of the government.” It’s what former congressional staffer Mike Lofgren refers to as “a hybrid of national security and law enforcement agencies””

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  3. Zedd

     /  28th October 2016

    If police are employed to; protect the public & ‘enforce’ the laws.. how is cracking down on a group of people. looking at alternatives to the current laws, worthy of this nonsense ?

    whats next.. raiding cannabis law reform meetings ?? 😀

    I thought there was a law about ‘freedom of assembly’ esp. for meetings of people of like mind. IF it was suspected that they were planning a ‘terrorist bombing’ then that would be probably justified. :/

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  28th October 2016

      As I understand it, there was concern about illegal substances-and I don’t mean marijuana.

      Not all who are in favour of euthanasia are old, and to be old is not to be innocent, anyway. When we were in the UK, an elderly man who went to the Continent often with his car was done for smuggling hard drugs back in it; the doors and everything else that could be easily removed were stuffed with them.The pitcher went to the well once too often. He was a well-dressed, very respectable looking man, the ideal smuggler.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  28th October 2016

        If you don’t mind what is a lethal drug being imported, that’s up to you. I only hope that you don’t fall victim to it because someone thinks that that’s what you really want-or what they do.

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  4. Zedd

     /  28th October 2016

    @kck

    I believe in ‘Freedom of choice’ as long as you’re not, being coerced/forced into things or causing others physical or emotional harm.. by your actions 🙂

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