Open Forum – Friday

4 November 2016

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  1. Gezza

     /  4th November 2016

    Happy Friday all 😃

    Uptick if you’re happy it’s Friday. 👍
    Downtick if you’ve got it in for happiness 😡
    Don’t tick if you couldn’t less whether it’s Friday or not. 😕

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    • Missy

       /  4th November 2016

      I might uptick tomorrow when it is Friday. Of course extra reason to be happy, the boss is out of the office for the next two weeks! 😀

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      • Gezza

         /  4th November 2016

        If your boss is anything like my last half dozen, productivity will go up. 😃

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        • Missy

           /  4th November 2016

          Probably. To be honest my boss is pretty cool, and totally looks after his staff, but yeah it will be more productive without sorting his life, though to be fair that is my job as his EA!

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          • Gezza

             /  4th November 2016

            Jesus Christ, it’s only 6.24 pm and already there are 6 miserable bastards who’ve got it in for happiness. 😡

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    • Pickled Possum

       /  4th November 2016

      Yaaaaaa up tick for Happy Friday especially if it is your birthday 😉 cos’ you can do pretty much do anything you want to 😉 yea its a Happy Friday.

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  2. Corky

     /  4th November 2016

    Crikey, tired as, this morning. Uncharacteristically watched some crap on TV late last night about an Indian nerd losing a Spanish shelia he was about to marry. Arrant crap.

    Anyway, the PowerBall jackpot is up to 38 million. Great stuff for some lucky person to win on Saturday or the coming Wednesday. But I always detest the jackpot becoming this large. Why? Because it brings out the socialist whingers…. whinging about that amount of money being too large for any one person. Their petty( and envious) minds cannot conceive that that amount of money really isn’t that much if you want to spend and have a great time. A flash mansion in Auckland, with all the options to impress their ex floor cleaning mates would set them back 10-20 million.

    I have always been fascinated by the emotions of jealousy and envy. I would have given anything to observe the scene a couple of years back when a nobody supermarket worker won over 30 million. Being a naive simple person he made the fatal mistake of identifying himself. I bet he regrets that to this day. But the icing on the cake would have been observing his ex workmates who had to continue on with their shitty $460 a week jobs, while he flew first-class to America to race cars with his dad.

    I wonder what his money situation is like now?

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    • Gezza

       /  4th November 2016

      30 million’s too much money for a powerball jackpot. What’s wrong with these idiots who run this rort?

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  4th November 2016

        It’s a bit rude to call him a nobody (and his win was less than $30,000,000) aand to assume that he would take pleasure in seeing his workmates earning a basic wage while he was megarich-he doesn’t seem to have been that sort of spiteful person.

        He seems to have invested it in land. It would be very hard to keep it quiet in Te Kauwhata, it’s a tiny place.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  4th November 2016

          Why is it a rort ? People know that they probably won’t win the big prize, but they are in with a chance and have the fun of thinking what if…?

          I win enough small prizes to encourage me to keep buying a ticket-the cheapest one, as, if I am meant to win the big prize, I’ll win it with my little ticket. I once found a ticket in the street and something made me pick it up. It was for that week and won a prize (the second one up)

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        • Corky

           /  4th November 2016

          I wish you would read, digest and then think. Obviously some women can’t multi-task.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  4th November 2016

            The win was about $27,000,000, not $30,000,000 and there is no evidence that he enjoyed the thought of his former fellow workers earning $460 while he flew first class to America or saw it as the icing on the cake. If you know that he thought this, then please say how. If not, then don’t be so nasty.

            Multi-tasking is a fiction-it is a physical impossibility to concentrate equally on two things at once.

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            • Gezza

               /  4th November 2016

              You’re not a mum.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  4th November 2016

              It is a physical impossibility for anyone. Someone who’s drinking coffee, looking at a computer screen and registering that it’s raining isn’t giving equal concentration to all of these things. I hope.

            • Gezza

               /  4th November 2016

              I can play with a cat while talking on the phone.

      • Conspiratoor

         /  4th November 2016

        Shall we ban it G. Please explain why it’s too much money. Like prostitution there are no victims here. You should be asking ‘whats wrong with the idiots who fork out’?
        And did you get to the bottom of Al’s refusal to use the letter ‘Z’? Do you think he feels guilty about his parting shot to dear old zedd?

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        • Gezza

           /  4th November 2016

          No it shouldn’t be banned, There’d be nobody able to complain about poor people wasting their benefit on it, they’d have to complain about them wasting it on the pokies, or booze, and cigarettes and drugs. 10 mill max. The extra prize money over 10 mill should go towards campaigns that benefit the community, like building more parks with security guards, stopping cycle riders from wearing lycra bike shorts, that sort of thing, c.

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          • Gezza

             /  4th November 2016

            PS: I have to make further enquiries about Al’s alleged refusal to use the letter Z, before I can address that part of your enquiry. On the face of it, it sounds unreasonable but I don’t like to jump to that conclusion without seeing what the evidence is and if it’s true whether he has an acceptable excuse.

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        • alan Wilkinson

           /  4th November 2016

          Z?

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          • Gezza

             /  4th November 2016

            Case dismissed.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  4th November 2016

              I see no reason to limit the prize money if it goes up to that; what the person does with it is their concern. Nobody’s obliged to buy a ticket, after all. It would be unwarrantable interference by, I assume, the government, to limit it. If people don’t like Lotto, they can show this by not buying a ticket.

  3. Blazer

     /  4th November 2016

    Winning a Lottery has always been the only chance for the average debt slave to attain freedom.The old ‘Golden Kiwi’ was worth about 60k I think.With the capitalist template of compound interest,never ending consumption /’growth’ and manipulated inflation ,today that is a piffling sum. ,we find the Corkys of the world with gems ‘ like this….’Their petty( and envious) minds cannot conceive that that amount of money really isn’t that much …’!

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    • Corky

       /  4th November 2016

      Breath deep, Blazer. And buy that lotto ticket. If you win- ‘capitalist templates of compound interest,never ending consumption /’growth’ and manipulated inflation’ will just be a distant memory,’ Good luck on your quest for the Capitalist dream.

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      • Blazer

         /  4th November 2016

        don’t you buy a ticket Corky…afterall 30mil is not alot of money…at least to…you!

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        • Corky

           /  4th November 2016

          I said that with a rider. It is a lot of money invested wisely. Its not if you are going to spend. I could spend that in an hour, So could many others.

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    • @ Blazer – “Winning a Lottery has always been the only chance for the average debt slave to attain freedom.”

      To be fair we’ve always had the ‘relative’ wealth generator of property speculation – the nation’s founding principle – in its several forms – rural and urban – to give people a semblance of ‘freedom’, if only in retirement …?

      Other opportunities for relative freedom, notably Social Security plus Productive Industry and later concepts like the shorter working week presented such a threat to the “power and wealth” privileged elite that they had to mount a long-term plan to change global political ideology or ‘consciousness’, beginning with coup d’etat and totalitarian regimes in South America …

      The loss of Social Security and Productive Industry elevated property speculation to the realm of God-like necessity …

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  4th November 2016

        The first Lotto millionaire had gambled it away in less than a year, convinced that he was onto a winning streak.

        One fool who won $650,000 ( in round figures) was on a sickness benefit and deliberately squandered it so that he could stay on it. Even on a low rate of interest, he’d have earned far more than the benefit.

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  4. Alan Wilkinson

     /  4th November 2016

    Lotteries are self-imposed taxation for the reward of a little momentary hope and excitement in otherwise mundane or desperate lives.

    True happiness and wealth lie in a job well done or bringing some joy into someone else’s life and sharing a little in it. Sadness and misery is not understanding that.

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    • Blazer

       /  4th November 2016

      ‘all men(even you ..Al)lead lives of quiet…desperation’-Thoreau.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  4th November 2016

        Nope, not me, Blazer. Usually when I am quiet I am happy.

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        • Blazer

           /  4th November 2016

          contemplate this then…’The mass of men do not make the effort to live deliberately. The problem is that most people, as supported by modern psychology, believe themselves to be better than average. What follows is that if their life is lacking in some way (quite desperation) then they will expect others to change before they try to change themselves. This quote is merely an observation. Thoreau was the great observer.’…S.K.Hamilton.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  4th November 2016

            I don’t expect others to change, B. I expect them not to change and plan accordingly.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  4th November 2016

              The quote is ‘the mass of men’, not all men, Thoreau wasn’t that much of a pessimist-or so unobservant.

              I’d like to win Lotto, I wouldn’t buy a ticket otherwise, but when I don’t win anything I don’t have a breakdown and need grief counselling.

  5. Alan Wilkinson

     /  4th November 2016

    I’m surprised Missy hasn’t reported on the court decision re Brexit. Big news in the UK.

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    • Gezza

       /  4th November 2016

      Her boss is going on leave for two weeks. She’ll be running things.
      Also probably collecting a spread of opinion & analysing same from their reputable newspapers, before delivering an insightful despatch as usual.

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  6. Gezza

     /  4th November 2016

    In another stellar example of precision air strikes the US air force has just managed to kill another 30 innocent civilians, this time in their homes in Kunduz, Afghanistan.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3901374/30-Afghan-civilians-killed-Kunduz-NATO-airstrike.html

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  7. Kitty Catkin

     /  4th November 2016

    Jamie Pink seems to have really lost his marbles-he’s been spending time in the local pysch ward. If he really believes that two old ladies opened fire on him with a machinegun, he is very disturbed indeed. Someone would have noticed them with it and people would have heard it !

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    • alan Wilkinson

       /  4th November 2016

      The reporter who reported it without question should join him.

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      • Gezza

         /  4th November 2016

        Perhaps he did, and he got run off the old ladies’ property … ?

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  4th November 2016

        It wasn’t a reporter. Anyone who goes around saying that two old ladies opened fire on him with a machine-gun must be a bit delusional.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  4th November 2016

        If it had been reported without question-which sounds as if it’s untrue-then they can’t join him there because he’s not there for them to join.

        He’s the one who talked about the old ladies opening fire with a machine-gun, he wasn’t reported as having said it.

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    • Blazer

       /  4th November 2016

      he said a ‘tommy gun’ not a machine gun …to be…precise.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  5th November 2016

        A tommy gun IS a machine gun.

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        • Blazer

           /  5th November 2016

          Wrong..AGAIN…’The Thompson submachine gun is an American submachine gun, invented by John T. Thompson in 1918, that became infamous during the Prohibition era. ‘…submachine gun.!

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  5th November 2016

            Don’t nitpick=AGAIN. It’s still an automatic weapon, isn’t it ? And if someone opened fire on you with one, they’d probably kill you, not just damage/shoot out (depending on which account one believes) an eye. It’s also hard to imagine that this would go unnoticed either when the two old ladies walked around with it or fired it .

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            • Blazer

               /  5th November 2016

              I am deliberatly nitpicking as a ‘tat’ for ‘all men’ ….’the mass of men’…practice what you preach,or expect to be corrected again and again.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  6th November 2016

              If one is going to quote someone-and attribute the quote to them-it’s a good idea to use their own words. Otherwise it’s not a quote, it’s a paraphrase.

              And it’s tit for tat, so yours was a tit, not a tat 😀

      • Klik Bate

         /  5th November 2016

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  8. Blazer

     /  4th November 2016

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    • patupaiarehe

       /  4th November 2016

      Nice Blazer, I might have to take back all the nasty things I have said about you. Well, maybe not all of them 😉

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  9. patupaiarehe

     /  4th November 2016

    Since you are still up G, here is something to keep you occupied…
    Here is the original…

    And here is a great tutorial…

    I remember when I was Patu Jr’s age, eagerly awaiting the next issue of ‘Guitar World’ magazine, hoping that it would have a tab of something I knew…

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