Clinton blames both Comey letters

Hillary Clinton has blamed her loss in the presidential election to both James Comey letters.

Fox News: Clinton tells fundraisers FBI Comey letter sank presidential bid

Hillary Clinton has offered a couple of private but candid explanations about why she lost her White House bid, telling high-dollar fundraisers Saturday that FBI announcements about a second probe into her emails from her time as secretary of state were too damaging.

Clinton said, “Our analysis is that Comey’s letter raised doubts that were groundless and baseless…” and “stopped our momentum”.

From what I remember Clinton was already dropping back in the polls when Comey’s first letter hit the campaign, but the polls dropped quite a bit more afterwards as well.

Clinton suggested her campaign’s internal poll numbers plunged after the letter but nevertheless rebounded, a person on the Saturday call told Politico.

However, she said the second Comey letter, three days before Election Day, saying that she had essentially been cleared in the unrelated case, awakened Trump voters.  

So she says that while the second letter cleared her it motivated ‘Trump voters’ – but there appears to have been a lot of anti-Clinton voting as well.

It’s impossible to tell how much the election was affected by the Comey letters. It is likely to have been significant, but hard to tell whether it made the difference.

Clinton’s past email problems, Benghazi, her links to her husband and to the current Obama administration, and her bland campaign will also have been major factors.

But regardless of causes, which will have been many and complex, the simple fact is that Clinton lost and Trump won.

Election over, move on.

 

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  1. Klik Bate

     /  14th November 2016

    Looks like ‘Crooked Hillary’ might have been caught out telling lies again! We’ve got everything from Secret Emails, Sniper Fire, Sir Edmond Hillary, Benghazi, etc, etc.

    Is this just ANOTHER to add to the long list of fabrications? XD

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    • Joe Bloggs

       /  14th November 2016

      I don’t accept that she’s lying by blaming Comey – his stunts played directly to the Trumpists… but she IS being completely disingenuous by tying responsibility solely to him.

      Start by looking in a mirror, Hillary, then look at the nativist movement, class resentment, and fear of groups from outside the majority.

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  2. This Comey business was pretty bad. They’d trawled through thousands of emails and found nothing (ok sure some here will believe that secret Clinton emails confirmed her as the mechanic who last worked on Buddy Holly’s plane, but that aside). So what reason was there to suppose news of these emails had to be released immediately. Well I’ll tell ya the answer. There was no urgent reason. Comey used his position to meddle in election to favour a republican candidate. From now on whoever holds power in Washington is going to take a knife to the civil service at each new election just to make sure the bureaucrats don’t do this again. Thank Comey.

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  3. duperez

     /  14th November 2016

    Of course for Clinton it’s over, time to move on. Maybe there is an important thing for history that should be taken from the last hurrah though . Very important.

    “It’s impossible to tell how much the election was affected by the Comey letters. It is likely to have been significant … ” Has Comey provided a model for the future?

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  4. David

     /  14th November 2016

    it does beg the question of why she was selected in the first place, she has never been popular in America and its not as if nobody knew about her dodgy email and Foundation issues.

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    • David

       /  14th November 2016

      She was selected because she spent years ensuring the cards were stacked in her favour.

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  5. It was the emails that done it guv’nar!!!!

    Not the fact she is two faced
    Not the fact she is part of the establishment that has gutted out Middle America and left them afraid for their jobs, afraid for their families futures, afraid of external threats
    Not the fact she is in the Wall Street bankers pockets
    Not the fact the DNC sabotaged her main primary run off opposition – Bernie got knobbled.
    Not the fact that Benghazi happened on her watch and she tried to shift the blame [remember in heartland USA it is GOSPEL that you always protect you own and don’t leave your people exposed]
    Not the fact she ran a home server outside of the US State Departments infrastructure exposing who knows what, to you knows which foreign states – because thousands of emails were deleted before investigators got hold of the kit involved so the evidential trail was wiped down, a classic Clinton tactic to make a plausible denial kind of stand up

    It was Comey who quashed the investigation too early under pressure from a “chance” meeting on an airport tarmac with Bubba Bill Clinton. Then his own Department rebelled and forced his hand to reopen the case when Weiners laptop turned up email that shouldn’t have been there.

    Yip it was Comey that done it Guv’nor.

    Sorry its a nice diversionary tactic and I understand her wanting someone to blame. But all the above was in her hands and she stuffed up the unstuffable. That election should have been a shoe in versus Trump and she blew it.

    Bill must be thinking how did you stuff that up???

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    • Gezza

       /  14th November 2016

      Hillary Clinton is innocent! Free Hillary!

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    • Comey’s email investigation u-turn was unsettling I am sure, but not the only reason electorates never went her way. Blamers are people I have no respect for – it is a characteristic I actively dislike, and pretty pathetic she’s reduced to and determined to make a martyr of herself. You’d think she’d be concerned for her legacy, looking to how history will paint her. You think she’d be being the bigger person, trot out the Constitution, talk about democracy, and encourage the protestors to remember their good fortune to live in America. The people know she spent $2 to Trumps every $1, they know she had the larger part of the Press on her side. They know her main messaging was to attack Trump. They will also reflect, when they calm down, how she failed to address, in real terms, their fears about immigration and it’s possible affect on the jobs that have disappeared, her failure to tell the people how they’d get their kids through college and where their American Dream was going. The floating voter never gave a toss she was a woman, let alone thought that being one would somehow make her a better President. They wanted to know what she would deliver.

      The answer was “More of the same”. Theirs was the middle finger.

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      • Gezza

         /  14th November 2016

        And Jay Z? WTF was she thinking?

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        • Harvard Business review has a very interesting piece, where they opine that the working class ADMIRE the wealthy and DESPISE Professionals.

          “One little-known element of that gap is that the white working class (WWC) resents professionals but admires the rich.

          Class migrants (white-collar professionals born to blue-collar families) report that “professional people were generally suspect” and that managers are college kids “who don’t know shit about how to do anything but are full of ideas about how I have to do my job,” said Alfred Lubrano in Limbo. Barbara Ehrenreich recalled in 1990 that her blue-collar dad “could not say the word doctor without the virtual prefix quack. Lawyers were shysters…and professors were without exception phonies.” Annette Lareau found tremendous resentment against teachers, who were perceived as condescending and unhelpful.”

          “Michèle Lamont, in The Dignity of Working Men, also found resentment of professionals — but not of the rich. “[I] can’t knock anyone for succeeding,” a laborer told her. “There’s a lot of people out there who are wealthy and I’m sure they worked darned hard for every cent they have,” chimed in a receiving clerk. Why the difference? For one thing, most blue-collar workers have little direct contact with the rich outside of Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. But professionals order them around every day. The dream is not to become upper-middle-class, with its different food, family, and friendship patterns; the dream is to live in your own class milieu, where you feel comfortable — just with more money. “The main thing is to be independent and give your own orders and not have to take them from anybody else,” a machine operator told Lamont. Owning one’s own business — that’s the goal. That’s another part of Trump’s appeal.”

          “Hillary Clinton, by contrast, epitomizes the dorky arrogance and smugness of the professional elite. The dorkiness: the pantsuits. The arrogance: the email server. The smugness: the basket of deplorables. Worse, her mere presence rubs it in that even women from her class can treat working-class men with disrespect. Look at how she condescends to Trump as unfit to hold the office of the presidency and dismisses his supporters as racist, sexist, homophobic, or xenophobic.”

          https://hbr.org/2016/11/what-so-many-people-dont-get-about-the-u-s-working-class

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    • duperez

       /  14th November 2016

      Yes, but you can play like crap, lose your own lineouts, miss tackles and yet still be in the game. One little forward pass might be what costs the difference.

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      • BUT Duprez… continuing the analogy; you’re kidding yourself that you lost because of the forward pass being missed. You lost because of all crap play leading up to the pivotal moment – it was only pivotal, because you made it pivotal with a long run of fumbles, stumbles, and illegal play in the lead in.

        Hillary was the wrong candidate and a poor one at that.

        I truly think Hillary was going to lose anyway – the email shutdown not the second flare is what killed her. She created the situation – she paid the price by losing.

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  6. Conspiratoor

     /  14th November 2016

    With two days to go comey declared she had no case to answer when he found his suicide note amongst her emails

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