Shaw avoids electorate question

On The Nation this morning James Shaw was asked whether he had any ambition to win the Wellington Central electorate next election.

Shaw avoided answering this, diverting to the usual Green spiel about the party vote being all important – which it is.

But with Labour struggling so much the Greens must at least be considering going for some electorates.

Wellington Central would have to be on that list.

Metiria Turei’s desire to contest Te Tai Tonga is also an interesting change in focus for her.

Will Greens recommend voters give them the party vote but give Labour the electorate vote in these electorates?

Or will they at least quietly hope to pick up a seat or two beyond the list.

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  1. Zedd

     /  3rd December 2016

    The best thing about MMP; you can split your vote between 2 parties.. eg Labour/Greens

    ..unlike ‘team key’ voters who seem to think there is only one party (FPP mentality), regardless of how bad their policies really are !
    take care of 50.1% who keep them in power & ‘to hell with the rest’ 😦

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    • Corky

       /  3rd December 2016

      ”The best thing about MMP; you can split your vote between 2 parties.. eg Labour/Greens”

      Yes, Right. OK!

      ”unlike ‘team key’ voters who seem to think there is only one party (FPP mentality), regardless of how bad their policies really are !
      take care of 50.1% who keep them in power & ‘to hell with the rest’’

      Not the brightest chump on the block are you….Zeddy.!

      You said you were going. You should. That’ll save what’s left of your mana.

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    • Blazer

       /  3rd December 2016

      the Natz know its all about the Party vote.The eligible who don’t vote through apathy or detachment need to be incentivised.The 64k question is…how!

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      • artcroft

         /  3rd December 2016

        Do what Castro did, shoot your way to power and maintain your control via state sanctioned murder.

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        • Blazer

           /  3rd December 2016

          works for the U.S…Have invaded 37 countries since WW2.A few U.S Presidents have been shot,as well …apparantly.

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    • Missy

       /  3rd December 2016

      “The best thing about MMP; you can split your vote between 2 parties.. eg Labour/Greens

      ..unlike ‘team key’ voters who seem to think there is only one party (FPP mentality), regardless of how bad their policies really are !
      take care of 50.1% who keep them in power & ‘to hell with the rest’ 😦”

      What an ill informed comment. One look at the 2014 results shows it is more likely the National Voters are splitting their vote tactically, not Labour Party voters – or if it is Labour Party voters, they are not going to the Greens.

      Of all the seats that the Labour candidate won, at least 16 that I am aware of gave their party vote to National, of the two others that I know of where National did not win the electorate vote, but did win the party vote, the electorate MP’s were Act and United Future.

      So, your assertion that ‘team key’, as you like to refer to National, does not understand splitting the vote seems to be slightly wrong, it appears that many who vote for National do get that votes can be split, and therefore they can get the MP they want, and still keep National in power – which is obviously what the want.

      Both Labour and National campaign on the idea of only one party – i.e.: two ticks for candidate and party, so both are as bad as each other.

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  2. Blazer

     /  3rd December 2016

    to summarise…you did not like Shaws answer.

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    • Zedd

       /  3rd December 2016

      to summarise i like MMP

      Mr Shaw was just being a politician, i cant disagree with his statement

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    • No, summary …Shaw avoided answering a pertinent question. Fair enough if they want to keep their options open, but I think it’s interesting that the option is left open now. I think that’s a change.

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      • spanish_tudor

         /  3rd December 2016

        Agreed PG, I think the Greens smell blood in the water, and if they were ever going to pick up an electorate or two, next year is the opportune time.

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  3. Ratty

     /  4th December 2016

    I wouldnt be surprised if Wellington went Labour for electorate and Gareth Morgan for Party Vote

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