Labour and local versus national

Michael Wood came across very well on Q & A, articulate and confident.

Andrew Little not so much.

He sounds convinced that Labour efforts and successes in the local body elections and the Mt Roskill by-election will translate to the general election next year.

He seems convinced they are getting it right about campaigning on issues ‘that matter to new Zealanders’.

But he is repeatedly asked about Labour’s poor poll results – and he confirms their internal polls is a smidgen better than the recent Colmar Brunton 28% last week – but keeps avoiding that lingering problem.

Little and Labour seem convinced that what they are doing now is the right strategy for the election next year.

Having faith that local political strategies – people tend to vote on local issues in by-elections – will work for them in the big one next year is a big risk.

In the current turbulent political environment world wide anything could happen.

Little is getting more practiced at switching questions to his rehearsed lines. That approach didn’t work for Hillary Clinton in the US. It could work here, but at the moment Little is not working very well.

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  1. PDB

     /  4th December 2016

    The stupidity in thinking local body politics and one-off by-elections have any relevance to a general election result is astounding (even for Labour). Left-wing Len Brown was mayor for the whole time National cleaned up in Auckland during the general elections and Labours polling has tanked now even though our major cities are run by lefties.

    Pretty much at the very same point prior to the 2014 election Labour won the Christchurch East By-election by a huge margin and at the time this was said;

    “Labour leader David Cunliffe says Poto Williams has stormed to a “stonking good win”, which is nothing short of a triumph, and a signal that the National government is in trouble”.

    “Mr Cunliffe laid down a warning to the Government after the win by Labour, putting Prime Minister John Key on notice that voters had demonstrated how unhappy they were with the handling of the Christchurch rebuild.”

    “Mr Cunliffe extrapolated out the win to predict a turning of the tide for the ever-popular Mr Key, even going as far to say Labour was going to win at the election next year”.

    Sound familiar? They say history doesn’t repeat but ……..

    No doubt Little will remain convinced that “the media don’t get it” and Labour is indeed on the path to the promised land.

    • David

       /  4th December 2016

      Off topic a bit but Poto Williams is my local MP and while she is lovely she is really quite thick and unaware, big heart but a bit stupid.

  2. White middle class LABOUR man beats ethnic NATIONAL woman in traditional Labour stronghold of Roskill and in the middle class white male Mayor’s old seat. There’s a surprise! Labour and the MSM have vested interests in spinning this win to something it isn’t. The Media want column filling conjecture and breathless speculation. Poor old Labour hope against hope that this is the magic bullet to change the public narrative. People will believe what they will and they’ll do so according to their confirmation bias, and outside the Beltway there’s no interest at all. They’ll vote in 2017, like always, from their perspective of the economy and how it will affect their prospects.

    Now what’s up with Kanye and Kim?

    • Gezza

       /  4th December 2016

      I’m glad you asked, Trav, because after watching Kanye storm off stage after a very weird rant I’ve been getting quite cocerned about them, especially after Kanye reportedly said he intended to run for POTUS in 2020 – continuing the trend for famous entertainers to go for that job. So, anyway, here’s the current situation:

      “Kanye West is out of the hospital, but the rapper is not back home with his wife Kim Kardashian West and their two children. A source close to the family tells PEOPLE the entertainer, 39, is living apart from his family for the time being and continuing treatment for undisclosed mental health issues after leaving UCLA’s Resnick Neuropsychiatric Hospital earlier this week.

      “He is receiving outpatient care else with a medical team,” says the source. “Kim still seems concerned but is supportive. They don’t know for how long Kanye will need outpatient care.”

      Though Kardashian West, 36, was a constant presence by her husband’s bedside while he remained hospitalized, an insider told PEOPLE she was “overwhelmed” by the situation and concerned about West’s relationship with their children, North, 3, and Saint, 11 months.

      “She is very worried about the kids being around Kanye,” said the insider, who added that the children had not accompanied Kardashian West to visit their father. However, another Kardashian source said the Keeping Up with the Kardashians star — who threw an early birthday party for Saint on Wednesday after West left the hospital — was standing by her man.

      “There are frustrations and problems, like any relationship, but they love each other deeply,” said the Kardashian source.”

    • Blazer

       /  4th December 2016

      Can assure you its hardly front page news in the MSM.

  3. Corky

     /  4th December 2016

    ”White middle class LABOUR man beats ethnic NATIONAL woman in traditional Labour stronghold of Roskill.”

    I wanted to write those words but was scared I would be called racist by Bloggy.

  4. Zedd

     /  4th December 2016

    Good Job Labour !!

  5. David

     /  4th December 2016

    One almost thinks National deliberately put in a really lacklustre MP to contest this in the quietest way possible and the end game was to avoid the risk of a candidate saying something stupid on the campaign trail. Risk mitigation as opposed to going out to win, sensible given the backlash they got in Northland.

  6. artcroft

     /  4th December 2016

    I thought the Labour panelist (can’t remember her name) on Q&A today came across really well. I believe she has held quite senior positions as an economist. She might do well as leader post 2017. Of course Andy and his union mates might decide 2017 was a blip and that the tide will sweep them to victory in 2020 or 2023 or … 🙂

    • Corky

       /  4th December 2016

      Arty, I hate it when you shoot a man’s ears off after he’s down. That Labour lady was good and had to tolerate Boag barking away. Boag is so one-eyed she makes Parti look ‘balanced.’ I doubt the ladies at the Remuera Bridge club have much time for her. ‘No class, darling.’

  7. lurcher1948

     /  4th December 2016

    Good one Labour,an abusive national party Indian couple got what they deserved…


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