English, Coleman and Collins

So Bill English has decided to have a go at being Prime Minister, but he has to be chosen by National’s caucus first. Jonathan Coleman and Judith Collins have also put themselves forward,

It is excellent to see a good contest on offer. It would have been a real shame to see English get the job unopposed, but after  a decade of no contest it is not surprising there’s interest from multiple contenders.

There could be more to join  the contest, but Amy Adams and Simon Bridges have ruled themselves out.

The three already in offer a good variety of options, from much the same  minus Key to something quite different, a distinctly new phase in Government and for national.

English is the early favourite with about 8 Cabinet Ministers pledging support but there are 59 National MPs who get to chose their new leader.

Coleman was regarded as an outside chance but it’s now up to him to make a case.

Slater has still been plugging Collins and rubbishing the rest, indicating his personal interests have a higher priority than being an objective political commentator. Whale Oil is a device to push his interests more than a right wing blog.

I don’t care who wins this battle. It’s a fascinating time in politics, and a critical decision required from the National caucus.

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25 Comments

  1. Blazer

     /  6th December 2016

    I like Cole man. The fact he was a prefect at AG I will overlook.Does not grandstand gets on with the job.English is not the future and Collins is a guaranteed ..loser.

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  2. Corky

     /  6th December 2016

    What the hell is wrong with our media? Andrea Vance on One news reads out the names of English and Coleman, then adds the rejoiner……” two white men.” So the fuck what! Do National have to head hunt a new leader from the Urewera’s to be legitimate?

    It does however give a clue on how the news media and feral Left will attack Nationals new leadership. In one word-factions. A little ironic really, given Labours problems.. The dream scenario will be Bill English as PM, with Crusher Collins coming a close second. Then the rumours will be started to undermine caucus cohesion. National must lay down lines of communication so everyone is in the loop when the proverbial hits the fan. We don’t want a repeat of Jim Bolgers demise.

    It was interesting to see Andy interviewed today. Its the first time I have seen him smile ear to ear… he was commenting on Key going. He then ruined the moment by doing some bizarre face hiding using his hand…is the pressure already showing?

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    • Gezza

       /  6th December 2016

      Give the man a break Corky. He’s changed his glasses. Little steps. They might all add up to a brand new approach.

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      • Gezza

         /  6th December 2016

        PS: But it was pretty weird. I think a lot of folk watching that will go WTF??

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        • duperez

           /  6th December 2016

          Will anyone be going WTF if Collins is the Chosen One??

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          • Gezza

             /  6th December 2016

            Coleman’s probably pretty handy with a scalpel.

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          • Gezza

             /  6th December 2016

            But yeah I would. She may appeal to those with fascistic & sadistic tendencies but I think she’d scare the crap out of the electorate generally.

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    • Klik Bate

       /  6th December 2016

      English and Coleman……thank fuck they weren’t “yellow” then, Corky 😎

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    • Pete Kane

       /  6th December 2016

      Corky makes a fair point. Vance ‘points out’ that two of the candidates are from an almost majority grouping (male), and the majority ethnicity – good odds. (Not that the ‘logical’ application of odds helped me out re Trentham and Ellerslie on the Weekend.)

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    • Gezza

       /  6th December 2016

      The Vance must’ve missed this when skimming Wikipedia
      .
      He has a 170-year family connection to his Northcote electorate and “a bit of tangata whenua thrown in” to his bloodline.[1]

      So that’s alright then.

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      • Gezza

         /  6th December 2016

        And speaking of The Vance, surely to god someone in tvnz could stump up for some elocution letters. Listening to her makes me want to get my ears removed.

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  3. Fairfax rushed into a poll last night on the leadership but i don’t see the point. For a start, the only votes that count are the 59 National MPs, And a poll before ether candidates are known and before anyone has a chance to think things through seems pointless – I wonder how many of those polled knew Key was resigning, or had heard of Coleman.

    About half gave no preference, either they didn’t know or didn’t care, and about half may not support any National leader.

    If anyone’s interested: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/87243902/bill-english-is-the-overwhelming-favourite-to-replace-john-key-in-our-new-poll

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    • Gezza

       /  6th December 2016

      Yes I saw that this morning and thought clearly Fairfax has been in touch with the PTB & were clearly signalling to the 59 who their choice must be. The whole thing’s rigged of course. Everywhere. It’s been proven elsewhere.

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  4. PDB

     /  6th December 2016

    Collins: I actually like her but she is damaged goods in the public eye (rightly or wrongly).
    Coleman: I can’t see him winning over the public, relatively unknown (low-Key).
    English: ONLY choice National can make at this point. Seen as the ‘sensible’ pragmatic part of the Key/English dynamic and I think New Zealand will be happy to vote for him for one election.

    Beyond the 2017 election National need to start grooming the next leader (as do Labour).

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    • English will hold the course steady and is probably more ready to be a leader than he was in 2002. be interesting to see if his joke side comes out a bit more. He is often quite witty in question time as he dissects the opposition and their flaccid questions

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      • Blazer

         /  7th December 2016

        An example please.

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        • Corky

           /  7th December 2016

          Hon Angry Andy- ‘Does the Minister of Finance have confidence in his leader?’

          Hon Bill English. ‘Yes, Mr Speaker. He gave me fair warning he was resigning. That allowed me to get the jump on my opponents. Its not easy finding the perfect leader. matey’s….lol, quaff, gurgle and snigger.’

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          • Gezza

             /  7th December 2016

            I’ve given all three of you an uptick to stop you losing your confidence.

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            • Gezza

               /  7th December 2016

              Who’s got it in for building people’s confidence ❓ 😡

  5. Alan Wilkinson

     /  7th December 2016

    Bridges has declared for English with himself as deputy. Bennett holding her fire:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11762184

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  6. Blazer

     /  7th December 2016

    At first I thought Bridges had a big future.He did become very smug,and arrogant though,and tried too hard to emulate Key in interviews.

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