Israeli ambassador recalled from NZ

After New Zealand helped get a resolution passed in the United Nations Securioty Council condemning Israeli settlements on disputed land Israel recalled their ambassador from New Zealand.

NZ Herald: Israeli ambassador recalled from New Zealand after UN resolution

The Israeli Government has recalled its ambassador from New Zealand after the UN Security Council passed a resolution condemning Israel’s continued settlements.

New Zealand co-sponsored the resolution, which said the settlements violate international law and undermine a two-state solution in Israel’s conflict with Palestine.

The resolution was passed 14-0 at the last council meeting of the year, and New Zealand’s last meeting in its two-year term as an elected member of the Security Council.

Loud applause was heard in the packed chamber when the US ambassador, Samantha Power, abstained.

All remaining members of the security council, including Egypt, which had drafted the resolution and had been briefly persuaded by Israel to postpone the vote, voted in support.

Malaysia, Senegal and Venzuela also sponsored the resolution and are likely to face diplomatic reprisals too.

The US abstained but the outgoing and incoming Presidents are split on this.

Egypt was pressured by US President-elect Donald Trump and Israel to delay the resolution. It eventually dropped it but the co-sponsors ploughed ahead with it.

Donald Trump tweeted yesterday that the outgoing Obama Administration should veto the resolution – but it abstained, allowing it to pass.

The US decision to abstain was immediately condemned by Netanyahu’s office as “shameful”, which pointedly referred to Israel’s expectation of working more closely with Trump.

Following the vote Trump, tweeted: “As to the UN, things will be different after Jan 20.”

He would support breaches of international law?

Is he going to drain the United Nations too?

The United Nations maintains that settlements are illegal, but UN officials have reported a surge in construction over the past months.

About 430,000 Israeli settlers live in the West Bank and a further 200,000 Israelis live in east Jerusalem, which Palestinians see as the capital of their future state.

Murray McCully was involved in this:

Foreign Minister Murray McCully told the Herald Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told him before the vote ambassador Itzhak Gerberg would be recalled if the resolution passed.

McCully said he had been informed the ambassador had been recalled “for consultations”.

“It underscores the fact that Israel is strongly opposed to the council position on the issue. That is not a great surprise to us.

“But we hope that the friendship that has existed between the two countries will be able to endure regardless of different view on this issue.”

Asked if it was a victory, McCully said: “It is a victory for those who are keen to see the Security Council take some action on the Middle East peace process after eight years of complete inaction.”

It would have been inappropriate to take the Foreign Affairs portfolio off him just as this was going through the Security Council.

 

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48 Comments

  1. lucher1948

     /  24th December 2016

    The crap whimpy mccully a raghead lover thinks hes achieved something for national, a vote for national is a vote for a possible Muslim KILLING YOU….NATIONAL TERRORIST KILLER LOVERS

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  2. Gezza

     /  24th December 2016

    Oh well, they do that sort of recalling ambassadors thing when countries object while they’re busy stealing dead kiwi IDs for false passports & more & more Palestinian land, leaving them with a few tiny, poverty stricken, useless, ghettoed patches ringed with violent armed settlers & troops, & getting away with killing thousands of them when they fight back, and claiming they’re the ones who are violent & unreasonable because America has supported them because rich Zionist lobbies etc.

    All a bit of a shit heap – thanks Britain & America. Suppose we better just wait for the fallout.

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    • patupaiarehe

       /  24th December 2016

      Are you an anti-semite G? You certainly sound like one. How dare you say those things! I am so offended by your comment, that I am off to my ‘safe space’ for a cry. 😉

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      • Gezza

         /  24th December 2016

        I might be a bit anti-semantic. The real history of that state has a helluva lot to do with the crap from muslim extremists happening everywhere now.

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        • patupaiarehe

           /  24th December 2016

          Stop it G. They have a right to be there, it says so in the bible.
          {Goes back to safe space, and assumes the fetal position}

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          • Gezza

             /  24th December 2016

            According to the Bible they nicked the place off the original inhabitants back then too, and then claimed God made them do it ! It’s got to be a habit. In fact It’s a widespread bad bloody habit this nicking land thing. Everybody seems to do it & it causes no end of trouble! Bringing blimmin bullshit Gods into it certainly doesn’t help.

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        • lucher1948

           /  24th December 2016

          Damn im a fresh new immigrant wanting to vote for national and bill,english im from GAZZA where can i rent a 40 wheeler.Theres a christmas parade i want to see….

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          • patupaiarehe

             /  24th December 2016

            Take a deep breath Lurch. You’re about to get some good advice from a ‘young fella’…..

            Drink water, not beer

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            • lucher1948

               /  24th December 2016

              MACs GREEN BERET is good and i haven’t stabbed a JEW sorry patupaiarehe

            • patupaiarehe

               /  24th December 2016

              Neither have I Lurch. And don’t be sorry for drinking ‘craft beer’, we all have our guilty pleasures 😀
              Be warned, this guy does swear a bit. But what else would you expect from an Australian? 😉

      • Klik Bate

         /  24th December 2016

        German poster from 1943….

        Caption: ‘The Jew. The inciter of war, the prolonger of war’

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  3. lucher1948

     /  24th December 2016

    [Cool it or I’ll cool things down for you. PG]

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  24th December 2016

      If there’s anyone here who’s anti semantic it’s you on a roll with your caps lock stuck, Lurch. Just watch out for Israelis hard selling you over-priced Dead Sea beauty products or paintings.

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    • PDB

       /  24th December 2016

      Considering the Greens want us to take more refugees than we currently do, and considering the left are generally the haters of Jews (who they associate with money and the USA) I think you may be barking up the wrong tree, or more likely – barking mad.

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  4. It is Christmas and time for goodwill to all human kind, even those who are agnostic or Muslims. Yes Israel is the home of Jews and other Israeli citizens. Palestine also exists and is home for Arab and other Palestinians. Peace does not exist because of thousands of years of historical hate on both sides. Arab states do not recognise the legitimacy of Israel.
    The two state system being pursued in the UN is the only practical answer. Arab and Israeli politicians have the solution in their own hands. The UN should now encourage both sides by sanctions against any country that does not subscribe to the” no hate two state” answer.
    Jews have a right to life as do Arabs.

    The recall of the Israeli Ambassador is a second level diplomatic knee jerk response that allows Israel to say well we gave them the two fingers salute. It will not change anything of substance.

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  5. Gezza

     /  24th December 2016

    Sanctioning America is the difficult bit.

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    • To a certain extent, sanctioning the US can be easy. Just put them through a separate line on entry to NZ. One for Commonwealth citizens, and the other for “The Americas”, and employ South Asian people with NZ Residency on the counter for the Americas.
      We could also offer a special deal for fleeing Card Carrying Democratic Billionaires, as long as they are tax resident in NZ and do not vote in local or central government elections. A similar deal could be offered to Chinese and Russian billionaires but they can’t vote or contribute to NZ Political parties by any means. They would be required to identify with the local iwi, as a matter of course.

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  6. lucher1948

     /  24th December 2016

    [Cool it. PG]

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    • Conspiratoor

       /  24th December 2016

      Lurch, I get it. You like tough guys. And the Israelis are as hard as they come. Your friend Donald understands this and you will turn in 2017. The orange freak will be your best friend. Cheers,c

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  7. artcroft

     /  24th December 2016

    A two state solution needs enough land for two states. But Israel wants the whole cake and to eat it too. And Lurch there is no connection between wanting a fair solution to the situation in Palestine and supporting ISIS. Calm down Lurch.

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      • Klik Bate

         /  24th December 2016

        Looks very similar to whats happened to Auckland since the flood of Asian drug money into the country 😡

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      • Conspiratoor

         /  24th December 2016

        G, I’ve seen this graphic before but it is fairly meaningless. What does the phrase ‘palenstinian land’ mean to you?

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          • patupaiarehe

             /  24th December 2016

            That is a good read G, albeit quite lengthy.

            “Professor Erich Fromm, a noted Jewish writer and thinker, [stated]…’In general international law, the principle holds true that no citizen loses his property or his rights of citizenship; and the citizenship right is de facto a right to which the Arabs in Israel have much more legitimacy than the Jews. Just because the Arabs fled? Since when is that punishable by confiscation of property, and by being barred from returning to the land on which a people’s forefathers have lived for generations? Thus, the claim of the Jews to the land of Israel cannot be a realistic claim. If all nations would suddenly claim territory in which their forefathers had lived two thousand years ago, this world would be a madhouse…I believe that, politically speaking, there is only one solution for Israel, namely, the unilateral acknowledgement of the obligation of the State towards the Arabs — not to use it as a bargaining point, but to acknowledge the complete moral obligation of the Israeli State to its former inhabitants of Palestine’…

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            • Gezza

               /  25th December 2016

              There was actually quite a sizeable, educated, sophisiticated Palestinian Arab intelligentsia & middle class. All evidence of it, photos, newspaper articles, magazines etc have been obliterated or locked up in Libraries with Palestinian land deeds etc that researchers are continually told they can’t get a permit to view yet, maybe in another 10 years ….

            • patupaiarehe

               /  25th December 2016

              Perhaps G, in a few hundred years time, there might be a ‘Jerusalem Tribunal’, where the natives who have been displaced, can get some compensation for their losses…

            • Gezza

               /  25th December 2016

              Hard to say what’s going to happen. Most Palestinians are muslims & Arabs. There are a heck of a lot of muslims & Arabs. They might be busy knocking each other off, & some of them playing footsie with Western countries, at the moment but ultimately they all want the former colonial powers/crusaders/imperialists gone from the Middle East.

            • Gezza

               /  25th December 2016

              And they all know, I think, that except for their oil, the Suez Canal, & the Gulf States’ money, governments in the West really don’t give a shit about them.

  8. The biggest problem is how to get the two sides to the negotiating table. The land issue is a major problem with both sides adopting fixed positions. What Israel is doing by its settlement program is establishing more strength to their case for better allocation of strategic land won by the 1967 War. There is no military solution to this conflict, as the Arabs have found to their cost. Concessions are needed by both sides. Does anyone know how to cure historical hatreds shared by all of the Arab States (Muslim) against Jews? Mohammed recognised them as “people of the book”, so it should not be a religious problem. The nuclear dimension is also relevant. Perhaps, we need the leaders of China, Russia and the US to meet and decide on a practical division of the land and other assets and give the nation states an ultimatum to implement the agreed solution, or else!

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  9. Brown

     /  24th December 2016

    I confess I’m sick of the Palestinians and their protesting while being brutal to even their own. I don’t much like Jewish Zionists either but don’t see that anything they concede will stop the Palestinian militants who simply want the Jews dead. There is no solution to this.

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  10. lurcher1948

     /  24th December 2016

    As I see it,the republicans have the Jewish vote now forever.Obamas last laugh could cost the democrats dearly in the future…

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  11. L48, I am inclined to think that may be so under a Trump administration. However, Trump is keeping everyone guessing by playing Twitter games to achieve precisely the situation that all cards are back on the table. We are not yet able to judge where goes US policy but we will know in about 40 days far more than what we are speculating about now. The stakes are as high as they have ever been. One hopes that peace is on his agenda too.

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  12. Conspiratoor

     /  25th December 2016

    “I will make of thee a great nation” and “I will bless him who blesseth thee, and I will curse him who curseth thee” Genesis 12:2

    and of the arab descendents of Ishmael…

    “He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers” Genesis 16:12

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  13. Blazer

     /  27th December 2016

    So ,when you see how hard the Israelis are taking the Sec Council resolution,it’s easy to think that Key had a heads up from Obama and decided to cut and run ,rather than bear the Israeli backlash.Wall St and corporate America, where Keys future lies would not be impressed if he was still P.M when this went down.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  27th December 2016

      Except he told people months ago that he was going to quit now. Seems very unlikely Obama would have let this cat out of its bag back then.

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      • Blazer

         /  27th December 2016

        Obama as you know is on the way out.A few last hurrahs for a man who won the Nobel Peace prize.It makes sense.Do you buy the family’ story Key ran with?

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  27th December 2016

          You ducked my point. I do buy Key’s family story. Being MP and PM is destructive of family relationships and calling it quits after 12 years would seem a good idea. Personally, my life divides into 12-13 year chunks with big changes between them. It seems to be a natural break time to try something completely different to me.

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          • Blazer

             /  27th December 2016

            I never duck’ Al,your point is moot.As you know Key and Obama are ‘mates’ ,golfing buddies…both with ‘dues’ to Wall St.

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      • Klik Bate

         /  27th December 2016

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      • Blazer

         /  29th December 2016

        what a surprise/coincidence….lying low,on the links,with…..’Obama, who is vacationing with his family in Hawaii, ‘!

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  14. Blazer, what did you mean by the family story that John Key ran with? I personally do accept the decision by him or any father to be with his family first instead of having to explain the shit and hatred he was subject to because he was in charge, and others though someone else should be. WE did not own him nor did we have any right to intervene in his family decisions. Those who live by throwing the turds, will immerse themselves in its excrescence.

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    • Blazer

       /  27th December 2016

      Ordure in the court,Col….Key has children who are young adults,his timing ,after talking 4 terms is suss.You will be aware of these text book reasons,’more time with the family,’pursue other interests,….a grain of salt…time will tell,and it will not be kind to ..’honest’ John..imo.

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      • I have no doubt, history is never written by the losers anyway.

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        • Blazer

           /  28th December 2016

          That has been the case Col.And of course the winners who write it and those that disseminate information to the populace have never been…impartial.The Internet has changed things and those born to rule seek to control that to and intrude on the privacy and communications of citizens.

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